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#1 Jun 28 2009 at 10:21 AM Rating: Decent
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I normaly party with a brd and rdm. We usually get double haste song and haste spell.

My question is, does full time hasso with recast of 25-27 seconds Ni beat a almost full time seigan with berserk and double attack? I party alot a mamool camp. I take meat for food.

Thx for you help.
#2 Jun 28 2009 at 10:49 AM Rating: Excellent
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a) level DRG to 37 for wyvern earring, jumps, ACC and ATT bonus.

b) don't /NIN, don't full-time hasso or seigan. keep hasso up as much as possible and put seigen up when you're in trouble or about to be in trouble.
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#3 Jun 28 2009 at 11:45 AM Rating: Good
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milich wrote:
a) level DRG to 37 for wyvern earring, jumps, ACC and ATT bonus.

b) don't /NIN, don't full-time hasso or seigan. keep hasso up as much as possible and put seigen up when you're in trouble or about to be in trouble.
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#4 Jun 30 2009 at 5:05 PM Rating: Excellent
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milich wrote:
a) level DRG to 37 for wyvern earring, jumps, ACC and ATT bonus.

b) don't /NIN, don't full-time hasso or seigan. keep hasso up as much as possible and put seigen up when you're in trouble or about to be in trouble.


This.

There is *very* few places a SAM wants to go /nin. Seigan/Third Eye will give you all the mitigation you want in 95% of the cases. There are very few exceptions for this, and merits is not one of those.
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#5 Jul 01 2009 at 10:09 AM Rating: Decent
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I rate SAM/NIN about the same as a full time Domaru SAM for EXP parties. Personally I have never unlocked NIN.

Gimp your damage that much and you don't need shadows. You will never pull hate against me and I am neither fully merited nor dressed in uber gear.

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don't /NIN, don't full-time hasso or seigan. keep hasso up as much as possible and put seigen up when you're in trouble or about to be in trouble.


Quoted for truth.

Hint: While under Seigan, you can hit 3rd Eye, then immediately swap to Hasso. Your 3rd Eye recast remains at 30 seconds.

My only problem with the Hasso / Seigan dance is hitting my Seigan / 3rd Eye macro too soon after a WS and not getting Seigan activation. This leaves me in Hasso with 3rd Eye on a 1 min. recast.
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#6 Jul 01 2009 at 9:29 PM Rating: Decent
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I like to go SAM/THF in exp pt 60+. I figure might as well throw some of that WS hate to the tank and the SA+WS is nice for raping imps. I've hit 1k WS and 1k light SC doing this. But yea, /nin is for babies, SAM's are damage dealers not a job to hide behind shadows. THF's and NIN's survive battles, SAM's and DRK's try to kill the mob before it kills us. Seigen/Third eye will suffice.
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