·Theme
- MMO News & Info
- Aion
- Dark Age of Camelot
- EVE Online
- EverQuest
- EverQuest II
- Final Fantasy XI
- Final Fantasy XIV
- FreeRealms
- Lord of the Rings Online
- Star Wars: The Old Republic
- Warhammer Online
- World of Warcraft
- BL2DB
- DayZDB
- Diablo 3 Database
- Dragon Nest Armory
- Guildhead
- LolKing
- MMOUI
- Rifthead
- SC2 Ranks
- TankSpot
- Tera Tome
- Thottbot
- Torchlight Armory
- Torhead
- Vindictus DB
- Wowhead
SAM/NIN Vs. SAM/DNC (For Solo)Follow
20 posts
So which job setup is better for soloing in general? What are the positive and negatives of the both ?
SAM/DNC = better overall survivability, but can't take high damage.
SAM/NIN = need healer, but can be very efficient if you're good juggling ichi>ni>3rdEye
SAM/DNC is better in general.
SAM/NIN = need healer, but can be very efficient if you're good juggling ichi>ni>3rdEye
SAM/DNC is better in general.
Princess ThePsychoticOne wrote:
int stands for int.
/DNC is better then Hasso/Seigan makes your recast really really long.
/DNC is for smallish-medium stuff by yourself
/NIN is for high level stuff and mobs w/ single target magic or nasty tp moves w/ a group
aka: /DNC is better for "solo" while /NIN is better for "tanking"
Edited, Jun 25th 2009 3:16pm by shintasama
/NIN is for high level stuff and mobs w/ single target magic or nasty tp moves w/ a group
aka: /DNC is better for "solo" while /NIN is better for "tanking"
Edited, Jun 25th 2009 3:16pm by shintasama
Quote:
I don't believe in good guys versus bad guys anymore… I only see a plethora of states acting in self interest… with varying ethics and moral standards of course, but self-interest nonetheless
Winston Churchill wrote:
Criticism may not be agreeable, but it is necessary. It fulfills the same function as pain in the human body. It calls attention to an unhealthy state of things
Having NIN 75 aswell I rarely "Solo" on Sam, So Sam/Nin serves me best for things I need to stay alive / tank in. Hagun ENM being one were /dnc would be a waste and /nin is a must
75 SAM / 75 RNG / 75 Nin / 75 Cor / 75 War
I got my endgame LS! http://homingmissile.wowultra.com/
I got my endgame LS! http://homingmissile.wowultra.com/
Well the question is (For Solo) so in that case /DNC without a doubt but hopefully you have both options available because you will need /NIN alot. Just not for solo. The /DNC sub will allow you to do alot of fun solo'n with out much risk of getting raped, as long as you know what you can handle. SAM/DNC great for solo steelshells for skillups or playing around at cape terrigan. SAM/NIN great in party situations like nyzul,dynamis,assaults,ect.
Wutang aka Whystler aka Unji
75SAM 75WAR 75NIN 75PLD 75BRD 65THF
SaNdOriA 10
75SAM 75WAR 75NIN 75PLD 75BRD 65THF
SaNdOriA 10
Mob type will play a huge role. Lie someone mentioned, any BLM mob, you definitely want to go /nin to absorb that damage. But for most things, a SAM/DNC with soboro and a quality evasion build and is pretty damn hard to kill. The TP gain from soboro makes having TP a non-issue. You can WS quite frequently and still regain TP to cure yourself. I used to go SAM/DNC for he T1 assault where you take a SMN and try pop the right chest. I'd do that in case of fish aggro. Those fish are absolutely brutal. It took a lot of effort but I was able to hold one of them for like 8 minutes without any help.
Another example: while skilling parry in Boyahda, I was able to hold 2 EM mandys at once. Also able to hold a T steelshell and a EM steelshell at once.... without soboro (tomoe), without evasion gear (actually had huaby on for -eva). SAM/DNC is just an attempt to outlast whatever it is you're fighting. With soboro and merited meditate, plus riding seigan/third eye and evasion gear, it takes a ton of dmg to hurt a SAM/DNC faster than it can heal itself.
That being said, /ni > third eye > /ichi is just so easy lol. Both are awesome soloers.
Another example: while skilling parry in Boyahda, I was able to hold 2 EM mandys at once. Also able to hold a T steelshell and a EM steelshell at once.... without soboro (tomoe), without evasion gear (actually had huaby on for -eva). SAM/DNC is just an attempt to outlast whatever it is you're fighting. With soboro and merited meditate, plus riding seigan/third eye and evasion gear, it takes a ton of dmg to hurt a SAM/DNC faster than it can heal itself.
That being said, /ni > third eye > /ichi is just so easy lol. Both are awesome soloers.
Scholar
28 posts
In my experience SAM/DNC is very good for things like campaign, and EP-T mobs that don't have a "bad" TP move.
In campaign, if you keep track of the hasso/seigan timers you can pretty much never die*, but, it takes some concentration. Use Hasso for WS, use Seigan/Third Eye so you can throw some Cure Waltzes on yourself, then Drain Samba II and Steps are all it takes to maintain your health during the battle.
For things like FoV mobs (ex. Cape Terrigan), SAM/DNC is also very good, especially for EP-T mobs. Where it DOESN'T do so well is on mobs like Manticores, where some of those TP moves will have you spending all of your TP on healing and not on WS's.
*Except for BLM-type mobs, then you will die--alot.
Basically it comes down to your playstyle and how well you do with whatever subjob you choose. I personally dislike /nin, but that doesn't mean it isn't good, and you WILL find that /nin will do miles better than any other subjob for certain situations.
In campaign, if you keep track of the hasso/seigan timers you can pretty much never die*, but, it takes some concentration. Use Hasso for WS, use Seigan/Third Eye so you can throw some Cure Waltzes on yourself, then Drain Samba II and Steps are all it takes to maintain your health during the battle.
For things like FoV mobs (ex. Cape Terrigan), SAM/DNC is also very good, especially for EP-T mobs. Where it DOESN'T do so well is on mobs like Manticores, where some of those TP moves will have you spending all of your TP on healing and not on WS's.
*Except for BLM-type mobs, then you will die--alot.
Basically it comes down to your playstyle and how well you do with whatever subjob you choose. I personally dislike /nin, but that doesn't mean it isn't good, and you WILL find that /nin will do miles better than any other subjob for certain situations.
DietSoda wrote:
In campaign, if you keep track of the hasso/seigan timers you can pretty much never die*, but, it takes some concentration. Use Hasso for WS, use Seigan/Third Eye so you can throw some Cure Waltzes on yourself, then Drain Samba II and Steps are all it takes to maintain your health during the battle.
Grab mob -> fulltime hasso, spend most of your time spamming cure/steps = massive win in campaign b/c you get points for taking damage, healing, debuffing, and dealing dmg.
Quote:
I don't believe in good guys versus bad guys anymore… I only see a plethora of states acting in self interest… with varying ethics and moral standards of course, but self-interest nonetheless
Winston Churchill wrote:
Criticism may not be agreeable, but it is necessary. It fulfills the same function as pain in the human body. It calls attention to an unhealthy state of things
/DNC
one reason.....Desperate Flourish. gravity on a mob when the sh*t hits the fan, you can kite and heal for a long time.
one reason.....Desperate Flourish. gravity on a mob when the sh*t hits the fan, you can kite and heal for a long time.
i tried desperate flourish on a couple NM solos as NIN (ex. Bune), and it never had any effect. What are things it actually works on as /DNC?
Hakamaru wrote:
i tried desperate flourish on a couple NM solos as NIN (ex. Bune), and it never had any effect. What are things it actually works on as /DNC?
Quote:
I don't believe in good guys versus bad guys anymore… I only see a plethora of states acting in self interest… with varying ethics and moral standards of course, but self-interest nonetheless
Winston Churchill wrote:
Criticism may not be agreeable, but it is necessary. It fulfills the same function as pain in the human body. It calls attention to an unhealthy state of things
If you have Soboro and /DNC you will last a lot longer. (Also, don't wear "Double Attack" gear with Soboro, it might cause you to hit twice instead of three times)
"Jack of all trades and master of none"
MASAMUNE lvl85 (5/21/11)
MASAMUNE lvl85 (5/21/11)
Recent Visitors: 13
All times are in CDT
Anonymous Guests (13)