Current Ninja Merits?Follow

Just wondering if in the post abyssea world people are changing their merits for ninja?

what would u suggest now? A budy of mine never merited his ninja, (was not worth it back when merits where time consuming) but now he has them to spare and was asking what to merit, since my nin is 50...

Figured i would ask here.

If you have throwing leveled and smithing at a high lv or a friend with smithing at a high level. I suggest meriting the sange ability. Having it fully meritied and using it with manji shurikens provides a very nice supplement to your dmg. It is overlooked by most NINs, but iit is indeed worth it!

Maybe, but in the current game, if a NIN Is serious about every aspect of tanking then some of the completely melee unfriendly mobs can be nicely done with a good INT/MAB wheel back tanking set. Cycling the 6 San spells would be sub-par due to the casting times and other things. With Maxing out 2 spells, for example you max out Fire(Katon) dmg and max out Katon: San, you just add Katon: San into the wheel before Katon: Ni.

Ofc, Ninjitsu skill is a big part of nuking, and nins that have fast tracked the job just won't have the skill for it ;;

Subtle Blow merits are better than ever, since you can basically level yourself a WHM mule and duo almost any mob. Maybe an extra San would help on a mob here and there, but for the most part you just go nuts on anything with your katanas and the less time spent recasting/stunned/terrorized/whatever the faster they go down. Ninjutsu is for staggering mobs or for azuring ephemerals only, for the most part.

I did Subtle Blow, Hyoton effect, Ninja Tool Expertise, and Hyoton: San.

SB merits are more than likely negating the benefits of Myoshu. Depending on gear choices; Rajas and Heed ring put you at 37%, merits at 42%. It'd be useful to know the exact amount of SB Myoshu gives, but i'm betting its more than 10SB. Either way solo-ing or tanking I generally keep Myoshu and yurin up on mob and I'd hate for my buff to not give me the full amount of its potential because I have SB from other sources.

People usually pick Ice as one of them just because the tools are dirt cheap.

Edited, Apr 20th 2011 1:14pm by Lothiriel

There's also the Atma of Beyond with it's Mab+30 Ice Damage+30 giving you effectively +60mab for ice spells.

Myoshu: +10 Subtle Blow
Yurin: -10% TP given, calculated before Subtle Blow

Source: http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/101018-Yurin-Ichi-and-Myoshu-Ichi-testing

(sorry for the mini-necro, but for the sake of having some conversation...)

To me, regardless of whether SB 5/5 is redundant in some gear sets, I'd rather have those merits in my pocket for (a) when I'm using gear that doesn't cap SB (which would happen to me if I upgraded my Heed/Rajas combo for Epona/Rajas) and (b) times when Myoshu isn't up.

Myoshu might not be up for many reasons - busy doing other stuff like recasting shadows or doing damage to hold hate instead of casting spells, dispel, etc. And let's face it, I could toss Myoshu/Yurin at everything, but why spend the tools on things that aren't hard enough to warrant it. For instance, you might still get less downtime by not wasting time casting slow-ass Ichi spells when farming weaker stuff where it's really hard to justify the wasted time/tools, but innate SB is still helpful enough to give a minor benefit. Maybe it even shaves a few mob TP attacks off that aren't so threatening as to be a risk of death, but which might slow things down a little bit due to need to spend some TP on /DNC or something.

If the San spells were actually particularly useful, it would be one thing. But since they really aren't that great...

SB 5/5
NTE 5/5
Pick a San spell 5/5 G1 and 5/5 G2 (and then proceed to use it almost never)

And honestly, if you have other job or general merits to get, you can easily prioritize those over NIN G1/G2 merits. San spell merits were the very last thing I looked at for all of my general and other job merits, and I can't say I really ever missed them. NTE is just saving you a little gil. And SB merits are moderately useful but nothing amazing.

Edited, May 19th 2011 7:06pm by Anza

Yeah for the longest time all I had on NIN merits we're Subtle Blow 5/5 since it was harder back then to cap that, today I can cap with SB 4/5 merits>Torero Torque>Heed + Raja's rings and that's all you need lol

So with all the limit points you get in Abyssea I ended up with SB 4/5 and 1 in each of the effect merits for Tier 1, Tier 2 I have NTE 4/5 and 1 of each of the San spells; I just wanted to have the complete San line they aren't that much more useful than Ni only slightly stronger and the effect merits do work with them as well, plus they look cool... maybe somewhere between 90-99 they will become more effective or they will adjust them :P

What changes did they make, I don't remember seeing anything about NTE in notes was it this last update or the one before? :o


Edited, May 20th 2011 1:39pm by KelgarVlondett