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The proc rate is fairly decent, it seems to kick in for me about 1 out of every 5 casts.


I'm sure even +1% haste would outweigh saving the occasional ninja tool.

Edited, Apr 5th 2010 10:38am by Squintik

i don't have any gil! =D

I've never stopped to question it until now, but when is the Ninja tool consumed during casting, at the beginning, or at the end? Does an interrupted cast consume a tool?

If the Gosha Sarashi could be macro-ed in for the start of the spell and a Royal Knight's Belt (or Druid's Rope) used for the remainder of the cast, then you could save the piddly few gil and not lose 2-3% of your damage because of your tight wallet.

If the tool is consumed at the moment of casting, then a Gosha Sarashi would have to have a pretty decent proc rate to even come out ahead, otherwise the extra spells you'd have to cast to reach the same damage output would just use up the tools you saved.

That said, NIN tools aren't really that expensive (several are very very cheap), so I'd definitely be unimpressed with any NIN who would be willing to decrease his performance in order to avoid ten extra minutes of farming. If you're using the wheel to solo from 40 to 50, though (and taking T mobs to chain 5 solo is going to compete with all but the best parties), then there's no one to impress, and saving a few gil with the belt won't matter. Of course, when you're the only one hurting the mob, the lower damage is even more likely to result in extra casts to compensate.

That doesn't compute for me. You obviously have decent ways of making gil to buy a multi-million gil piece, but you want to wear a waist piece that saves you penny's whilst giving up a slot that could offer you useful stats.

Its not like your a new player and you just farmed up 100-200k for a Hauby and are now gil-less. To buy a Cerb+1 means you have good gear already (if you don't then you should obviously sell it an get all the standard good AH gear for your relevant jobs).

you are wrong. many items are useless. haste is better for utsusemi, and int is better for offensive spells.

The point is if you stack it with all your other NTE gear and have Yonin up, you can pretty much free cast ninjutsu, lowering those "OH SHIII*** NO TOOLS" moments. It isn't a massive saving, but check this scenario:

- Elemental Wheel
- Ni+Ichi
- Enfeebles
- 6 hour meripo

Instead of carrying 2 stacks of each (assuming you aren't on Coli's) you only carry one stack and you rarely use a tool. Ninja is a very inventory intensive job, NTE just helps cut that down a little.

It won't dramatically alter your playstyle, but if you can .txt macro in a full NTE set just for your ninjutsu casts, and have it switch back to your TP gear automatically after the casts, which I do, you never have to think about it again and it is there working in the background saving you a small chunk of change per fight. Ninja's toss gil at enemies to fight them, NTE just tosses slightly less of it.

On my NIN at the moment, I have 5 separate NTE's (inc Yonin + Merited NTE) and I have been meriting with it for hours (13 merits this weekend + 16 last week total). I am still on my first Shihei stack (41 left) and have barely even dented my spell tool stacks. I do have the Authenticator for the double inv space (which is a massive improvement and has helped me alot) so I am not too fussed, but as I gave away 9 million gil when I quit last time, I am hurting for money. Any option to save a few pennies here and there is welcome.

Yes you won't save a tonne of gil in the short term, but over a few months, you work out your shihei + other tool costs and it is quite considerable. NTE is great in my honest opinion!

And HI MONKEE!

Macro it in for Tonko/Monomi! That would surely justify the extra inventory space and time spent camping an NM for the belt!

Is it wrong that I enjoy the tools my job has to use? We more often than not merit on Aura Statues in sky as a group of 4 to farm diorites for the LS. In this case I spend alot of time fighting these mobs, and the elemental wheel is very effective on them.

Sorry for not adhering to your cookie cutter ethics you force upon a job.

I will play how I like thanks :)

Sorry for the slight necro post (hey, it was still first page).

I wouldn't say the belt is useless, I'd use it for enfeebles.

TP in it? Hell no, it's a macro piece only.

Utsusemi? Yeah, use haste.

Elemental? Well, INT here if you're not using haste.

Enfeebles? It could have a place. I personally typically use NIN for solo, not tanking. Why not macro it in for enfeebles? I'm not really hurting on recast timers there. Since I don't use my NIN very often in party, I wouldn't usually care about something like enmity+. I don't have Koga for M.Acc, and we have no other M.Acc waist pieces.

Another consideration, with 80 cap coming soon, other jobs will get access to Ni elemental magic at /40NIN. It wouldn't be completely crazy to do something like pull with a fast Ni ninjutsu (hell, I'd do this on COR/NIN merit pulling). You really don't care about doing damage with the spell, so might as well save a little gil. It's small, yes (enfeebling tools certainly cost more, so I'd care more about those). But whatever, it adds up eventually.