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Melee gaiters +2 Vs. Tantra Gaiters +2Follow

#1 Dec 17 2011 at 11:22 PM Rating: Decent
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So i just obtained my Melee gaiters +2 and I'm not sure which one is going to be better to full time.

With Tantra gaiters I get an extra STR, some extra Acc(more often than not, it is not needed), and increased Kick attack DMG.

with Melee gaiters i Get +7 DEX, +5%HP, and increased counter DMG.

so to me it seems like it really comes down to, is the increased counter damage or the increased KA damage better?

most of what I do is lowman/solo (what isn't anymore right?), so I am counter tanking ALOT.

in my case my gear is......

Spharai
Thew bomblet
Tantra crown +2
Faith torque
Brutal earring
Aesir Ear Pendant
Tantra Cyclas +2
Tantra gloves +2
Rajas ring
Epona's ring
Atheling mantle
Black Belt
Tantra hose +2
???


I suppose in order to get a better idea of which is better we should know how much do the Melee gaiters +2 increase counter DMG, does anyone know yet?

or how can i test this out. must have been more tipsy than i thought last night

tiny sample sizes using these atmas

Razed ruins
Apocalypse
Sanguine scythe

Fear Dearg - Basic TP gear
Player CA.Dmg CA.Hits-0 CA.Low/Hi CA-0.Avg Ret.Dmg Ret.Hits-0 Ret.Low/Hi Ret-0.Avg
Rassitier 29910 93 117/542 321.61 0 0 0/0 0.00


Fear Dearg - Melee gaiters +2
Player CA.Dmg CA.Hits-0 CA.Low/Hi CA-0.Avg Ret.Dmg Ret.Hits-0 Ret.Low/Hi Ret-0.Avg
Rassitier 37002 98 135/600 377.57 0 0 0/0 0.00

Fear Dearg - Melee gaiters +2 and Utilion mantle
Player CA.Dmg CA.Hits-0 CA.Low/Hi CA-0.Avg Ret.Dmg Ret.Hits-0 Ret.Low/Hi Ret-0.Avg
Rassitier 38307 101 137/649 379.28 0 0 0/0 0.00



Edited, Dec 18th 2011 12:24am by Rassitier

Edited, Dec 18th 2011 9:44am by Rassitier

Edited, Dec 18th 2011 10:43am by Rassitier
#2 Dec 18 2011 at 12:54 AM Rating: Decent
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probably have to parse it, but kine probably has better insight. counter caps at ~75% regardless.
#3 Dec 18 2011 at 2:51 PM Rating: Excellent
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You need to specify level of Spharai and current H2H skill (is it capped for 99, or still skilling up from 95?). You also didn't specify if you were using food to be sure your cRatio was capped.

Assuming capped skill and lvl 95 Spharai, you have 440+14 = 454 skill, or 52+48+13 = 113 base damage.

113 * 3.15 * 1.6 = 568 max crit damage. You have a 542 max counter when unbuffed. There's enough of a gap there that it's difficult to make any assessment.

Ultion Mantle increases base damage by 10 points, which increases max crit with those atmas by 49 points. There's an increase of 49 points when you add the Mantle.

There's a slight possibility of +12 damage on the Melee Gaiters, as that would increase max crit by 59 points (your samples increased by 58 points). However the uncertainty of the fundamental base damage means that's only a tentative conclusion.
#4 Dec 18 2011 at 4:18 PM Rating: Good
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they are 95 Spharai and my H2H skill is capped, and I was not using food

also, i have not quite finished STR merits so, 99Mnk/49War my base STR is 107 when i did these samples

Edited, Dec 18th 2011 5:24pm by Rassitier
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