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#1 Jun 27 2011 at 7:40 PM Rating: Default
Hey guys, my GF is taking up MNK for the same reasons as everyone else. Anyways, is a Black Belt still a good thing to aspire towards, or would one do well to work around all that effort with a Brown/Twilight Belt?

Also, since I'm pretty sure the answer is still "get and use a BB however you can," how does one get one? Still just Bonanzas, three kings, or BCNM?

Edited, Jun 27th 2011 6:43pm by tertoonetwothreefour
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#2 Jun 27 2011 at 8:52 PM Rating: Excellent
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Even if you don't need the Haste from BB to hit cap, the STR, -PDT, and Subtle Blow are all nice to have.
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#3 Jun 28 2011 at 3:31 PM Rating: Default
Nice to have as in take your time, or nice to have as in make it a priority?
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#4 Jun 28 2011 at 6:11 PM Rating: Good
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If I were to gear mnk from scratch again, I would get af3+2 first, before worrying about a BB. While not ideal, you can cap gear haste with af3+2 head, hands, legs, and haste shoes. Unless you have a way to quickly acquire the 3 BB items, af3 first should give the most character improvement in the least amount of time.

And yeah, the only way to obtain bb is via kings, bonanza, and bcnm. If you have bundles of seals lying around, the bcnm drop rate isn't bad.
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#5 Jun 28 2011 at 6:34 PM Rating: Good
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Brown Belt, AF3+2 hands, legs and head gives you 24% haste, which makes it worth it to use AF3+2 feet over haste shoes. Black belt would top you off easily. The real benefit of BB will probably come as new gear is released. If you have BB, you won't be locked into AF3+2 hands/legs/head to maintain capped haste. I have heard SE plans to release something superior to BB, but I haven't seen that officially and who knows if you would need BB in order to trigger a quest or something (like brown belt for black). Like has been said, I would make BB a priority after finishing AF3+2.
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#6Tepogue, Posted: Jun 29 2011 at 8:27 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) You now have to do the KS99 to get the pop item for the kings. And the BB items no longer drop from the KS99's themselves now and do not drop from the NQ kings.
#7 Jun 29 2011 at 8:49 AM Rating: Excellent
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Tepogue wrote:
And the BB items no longer drop from the KS99's themselves now


BB items do still drop from KS99, they have only been removed from NQ kings.
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#8 Jun 29 2011 at 11:05 AM Rating: Excellent
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After personal experience they must have lowered drop rate Smiley: frown

0/6 Adamantoise egg so far. (6/6 pop items for NQ king though)
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#9 Jun 30 2011 at 9:13 PM Rating: Good
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And the BB items no longer drop from the KS99's themselves now

Wrong wrong wrong! I have seen this said and it's apalling that people would spread this false information.
I just did The Hills Are Alive KSNM 99 last week. The alliance I was in defeated this KSNM 15 times. Out of those 15 runs we got 4 Adamantoise Eggs. Blue Pondweed (the pop item for Adamantoise) drops 100% of the time.
If you want to get the Adamantoise Egg, you can try your luck with the KSNM 99 fight. If you don't get it, you can use your blue pondweed to pop Adamantoise. Killing him will get you a red pondweed which you can then use to spawn Aspidochelone. Aspidochelone can drop an Adamantoise Egg but I don't know the drop rate for that.
Depending on your situation, you may be able to go about this differently. If you have friends that are willing to use their Kindred Seals for you, then perhaps you can eventually get an egg from the KSNM.
Also, you can bazaar your blue pondweed if you want. I sold mine on the Sylph server for 500k because I was lucky enough to get an Adamantoise Egg on my 2nd attempt.
#11 Jul 02 2011 at 9:05 AM Rating: Decent
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Wait, BB items no longer drop from NQ kings? Why? Because they're soloable now? They were pretty much duoable before...
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#12 Jul 03 2011 at 9:30 PM Rating: Decent
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SE recently changed the system the Kings were on, and as a result, the black belt items. As a result of the update, doing one of the KS99 fights (let's say behemoth) grants you an item for the win, a Beastly Shank. Trading that item to a ??? will pop normal quality behemoth. Defeating him has a small chance to provide you with the item to pop King Behemoth.

And yes, the normal qualities no longer drop BB items and the HQ version is no longer 100%. Not sure the thought process behind it; SE might even think this increases the amount of BB items in circulation, for all I know.
#13 Jul 04 2011 at 10:55 AM Rating: Good
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In theory it should increase the number of BB items which drop to the whole server, since the number of HQ kings being fought on the server per week is much more than the 1-2 previously. Also people won't bother with a lot of KSNMs like Royal Ramble and Desert Swarm since they're drops aren't worth much now, so you get a lot more KS99s being done than before.
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#14 Jul 05 2011 at 9:33 AM Rating: Decent
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Meh my bad. I did 10 runs of Hills are Alive for no BB item drops. I also talked to people from other LS and they had not see any BB items from any of the KS99's after the update. Even now weeks later no one I know has gotten a BB item from the KS99's.

#15 Jul 06 2011 at 6:52 PM Rating: Decent
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Well that's kind of killed any thought I had of coming back. I only needed an egg.
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#16 Jul 07 2011 at 6:29 AM Rating: Decent
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Nah, you should come back. I need another MNK who has taken a longer break than I have, and therefore will be even more gimped than me by today's standards >.>
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#17 Jul 07 2011 at 7:26 AM Rating: Good
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Don't be so down, my friends went 1/1 on Behemoth Tongue and Adamantoise Egg from KSNM 99 + 1/1 on Aspidchledone with TH9 ;) Stack as much TH you can on the popped NM ^^
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#18 Jul 08 2011 at 7:04 PM Rating: Default
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Wait, TH9? This is going to take some serious getting used to. Diamondis are you still on Sylph?
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#19 Jul 08 2011 at 7:17 PM Rating: Decent
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Yeah, I'm still kickin' on Sylph somewhere. I haven't played in months though and don't have any AF3+2, hardly any AF3+1 and other stuff. Hell, I only just got Sea a week ago while I was waiting for my exam results lol.
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#20 Jul 08 2011 at 7:47 PM Rating: Decent
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Meeh, I'm still 75. I've not played since like May last year.
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#21 Jul 09 2011 at 12:37 AM Rating: Decent
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Come back anyway =P I'll get you used to stuff... If stuff is trying to solo **** you can't and dying a lot. 75 to 90 should take maybe 6-8 hours if you get a decent Abyssea party I think. It's been a while since I've actually partied in Abyssea, but I may do again since they raised the merit limits slightly without me knowing... Sneaky bastards.
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