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#1 May 01 2011 at 12:11 PM Rating: Decent
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any tips for making the trials in fire weather suck less? really not enjoying only making progress on firesday. currently on lizards, haven't had much luck in terrigan or meriph [s]. suggestions appreciated for this and future trials.

was using this website too, if people here haven't seen it yet. however, it's not very useful for fire weather :(
http://ff11info.com/bazaar/en/weather.php

Edited, May 1st 2011 11:15am by gaira
#2 May 01 2011 at 3:01 PM Rating: Good
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Fire weather is rare. It sucks but you can't really count on having fire weather.

I did Lizards in Cape T. Wamoura in Mount Z. Beasts in Cape T. Bombs in Ifrits.

You'll get the occasional fire weather to help you out. But for the most part you'll just have to aim for Firesday and try to team up with other people and mass kill em during Firesday.

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#3 May 01 2011 at 6:15 PM Rating: Good
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mass kill em during Firesday

It's how I had to do almost this entire trial last fall. Of course back then there were probably a lot more people doing them. I don't think I really ever had to solo much because I could almost always team up with ninjas, or warriors, or other monks doing the same trials. Still, I think it would be easier now because you can just kill things in Abyssea. As long as you have 3 good atmas you can probably knock out 75-100 each day. I would suggest VV, RR, and Apoc or VV, RR, and GH as MNK/DNC.... or you could go VV, RR, and Mounted Champion as MNK/WAR
#4 May 01 2011 at 7:54 PM Rating: Decent
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meh i got fed up and just brewed indrik pausing timer at the martello until he dropped taurine cesti. i know fire taipan fangs are probably better, but at least i have something usable now.
#5 May 02 2011 at 7:32 AM Rating: Decent
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but at least i have something usable now.

I have the Fire Taipans, but they still suck without a good weapon skill. I don't have Ascetic's yet, but I just prefer using my Ninja with Blade: Jin until I either complete Empyrean or Nyzul Isle.
#6 May 05 2011 at 12:05 AM Rating: Good
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I can't stress how important it is to try and team up for trials. That being said;

Waiting for Fire weather is a waste of time. In normal zones it is pretty rare. Just schedule appropriately and wait for firesday. In any zone or any trial for any weather try to get there before hand and start shouting with the translator as closely as you can for what you need.(list is for Firesday not weather)

1. Lizzie(where I assume you are): Cape Terrigan. When 18-20 Darksday(that goes for all trials) hits start heading out there.

2. Wamouras. Best spot is Abyssea-Attohwa for Gullycampa. People always there farming seals from Granite Borer. If no one is there then its all EP anyway.

3. Beasts. You could do this in Cape Terrigan on rabbits and Manticores but it's slim pickings. Best bet is going to Uluegerand range(of course Firesday not weather). Plenty of bunnies, tigers and buffalo down the ramp. Also plenty of other people doing trials so its easier to team up.

4. Bombs. I tried the Mt. Z route and Ifrit's and its only good for weather(plus a sh*tton of travel), not so much firesday. There are plenty of bombs but they are spread out and the respawn is 15 minutes. If you happen to be there for fire weather have a blast. The better route is to go to Abyssea-Vunkerl(of course on Firesday) to conflux 8(near Sippoy spawn) and kill Helter-skelters. There is plenty of them and they resapwn fast plus ppl are always there farming seals or doing trials. /shout for help always!!

5. Lizzies again. Back to Cape Terrigan. Rinse and repeat.

Edited, May 5th 2011 11:27am by westsidepatone
#7 May 09 2011 at 12:57 AM Rating: Excellent
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westsidepatone wrote:
3. Beasts. You could do this in Cape Terrigan on rabbits and Manticores but it's slim pickings. Best bet is going to Uluegerand range(of course Firesday not weather). Plenty of bunnies, tigers and buffalo down the ramp. Also plenty of other people doing trials so its easier to team up.


I liked Opo-ops in Ifrit's Cauldron for this one, knocked it out by running the "loop" from the western entrance to the Cauldron from Yhoator. Respawn times will be pretty close to right when you finish your loop.

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4. Bombs. I tried the Mt. Z route and Ifrit's and its only good for weather(plus a sh*tton of travel), not so much firesday. There are plenty of bombs but they are spread out and the respawn is 15 minutes. If you happen to be there for fire weather have a blast. The better route is to go to Abyssea-Vunkerl(of course on Firesday) to conflux 8(near Sippoy spawn) and kill Helter-skelters. There is plenty of them and they resapwn fast plus ppl are always there farming seals or doing trials. /shout for help always!!


I did Ifrit's here too, probably the most annoying trial because of the respawn time but it's not THAT terrible if you figure out a good loop pattern. This for me was essentially the same loop as the Opos, but adding a couple extra detours to hit extra bombs. You'll figure it out after practicing for a day. I took like 4 fire days to complete the whole trial, with no luck at all of fire weather.

If you don't get weather, yea, Abyssea's probably faster.

EDIT: Oh, for Ifrit's Cauldron, /DNC suggested for Spectral Jig alone - avoid unwanted bats at night and other various nuisances in the tunnels (scorpions, hecteyes, etc).

Edited, May 9th 2011 5:57pm by Anza
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#8 May 09 2011 at 3:54 PM Rating: Decent
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3. Beasts. You could do this in Cape Terrigan on rabbits and Manticores but it's slim pickings. Best bet is going to Uluegerand range(of course Firesday not weather). Plenty of bunnies, tigers and buffalo down the ramp. Also plenty of other people doing trials so its easier to team up.


I did Tigers in Jugner Forest S on Firesday. There is a spot where the unicorn NPC roams that has several tigers. The tigers go down pretty quick.

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4. Bombs. I tried the Mt. Z route and Ifrit's and its only good for weather(plus a sh*tton of travel), not so much firesday. There are plenty of bombs but they are spread out and the respawn is 15 minutes. If you happen to be there for fire weather have a blast. The better route is to go to Abyssea-Vunkerl(of course on Firesday) to conflux 8(near Sippoy spawn) and kill Helter-skelters. There is plenty of them and they resapwn fast plus ppl are always there farming seals or doing trials. /shout for help always!!


I tried Ifrit's but I really didnt like how far apart the bombs were and the constant need to reapply sneak invis to avoid aggro by monsters you didnt need to fight and If you linked something you had to waste time killing.

I tried Djinns in the Eldieme Necropolis S (accessed from Batallia Downs S) where the Taru NM spawns. This area was decent where you could kill several bombs in a row. Not sure how many maybe 13-15. Then you had to wait for respawn. It was better imo then running around Ifrits, and gave you a break between spawns. Aggroed the NM a couple times and had to use retrace scroll as soon as I got drawn in >.>

The other area I did which I thought was best, was Vunkerl Inlet S on Firesday. I think the Spot was near the zone to Ronfaure S. The Djinns have a 5 minute respawn which is very nice. If you have a group there is a second spot with Djinns close by, have to avoid Treants though. Solo it's not worth the run back and forth as respawn is pretty quick.


Edited, May 9th 2011 3:36pm by Mankind
#9 May 10 2011 at 8:01 AM Rating: Decent
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Back when I did Fire Taipan trials, I did Ifrits for beasts and bombs... Cape Terrigan for Lizards... etc etc. *shudder*
All that is pretty stupid to do now if you have 3 lunar abyssite and some good dd atmas. Just go to abyssea now and find the mob family you need on Firesday
For bombs go to Vunkerl, conflux 8, you can't miss them... For lizards, go to Misareaux, conflux 7 and kill the raptors... For wamoura, go to Attowha, conflux 7 then make your way southish to Gullycampas...for beasts, go anywhere.

Anyway, if you don't have any good atmas or your lunar abyssites, then you should probably focus on getting those anyway as they will help you out a LOT more than any piece of gear. Then you can do your trials in abyssea since fire weather on Vana'diel is rare and never worth waiting for. Any suggested areas outside abyssea will be worse, and you will most likely have a lot more trouble getting others to go to non-abyssea spots.
#10 May 10 2011 at 12:05 PM Rating: Good
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I did my fire taipans a couple months ago, used Abyssea almost exclusively:
Birds: Geiers in La Theine
Lizards: Shadow Lizards in Konschtat
Wamouras: Gullycampa in Attohwa
Bombs: Helter Skelter in Vunkerl

Because of atmas and buffs, I was usually able to kill 60-80 per fireday solo. I joined a group doing lizards for the last lizard trial and got 170 done in one day. Went a whole lot faster than other trial weapons that I've done outside abyssea.
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#11 May 12 2011 at 5:47 PM Rating: Good
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Note: Abyssobugards are lizards, and are a popular Dominion Ops exp alliance target.

I guess you'd want to be sure your alliance is cool with you using a gimp weapon, but judging by what I tend to see in Abyssea alliances that may not be an issue.
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