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#1 Mar 14 2011 at 5:02 PM Rating: Good
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Hey guys. A little background here. I have been playing FFXI for almost 6 months now so to most here, I am a baby when it comes to FFXI. I am a pretty experienced MMO player though with a couple years of WOW under my belt along with a few years of Everquest back in the day, playing in guilds that were the best on their servers and competed server wide. But anyway, the point of this post was to maybe help some people like myself who are relatively newer to FFXI, or maybe just new to the monk job in general.

What I'm not going to do is go over anything pre-90. There is PLENTY of information around there as far as equipment guides and leveling guides to get you to 75. And leveling in abyssea is so fast and easy that there's no reason to talk about gear to get from 75 to 90 except making sure you pick up the Aurore gear for upgrades. For me, as a new FFXI player, the full Aurore set was a big upgrade compared to items that I was wearing (Scorpion Harness, Republic Subligar, etc). But anyway, let's get on to useful information.

Once you hit level 90 on your monk and you've skilled up your H2H, the first thing to focus on is finishing up those merits. I would recommend the following:
Kick Attack Rate 5/5
Counter Rate 5/5
Formless Strikes 1/5
Pennance 5/5
And personally I did Invigorate 4/5 but depending on what you are doing, you may find another merit more useful. I did Invigorate mostly for soloing purposes (I actually did 5/5 in this and then later as I started doing more in abyssea, I capped Pennance and dropped a point in Invigorate)

After merits, you need to get the appropriate atmas to be useful. We need to get you that AF gear, but the atma bonuses are so far superior to any gear that we'll work on that first.

First thing's first though. You'll need to buy that first lunar abyssite, and then join a shout group for a zone boss (Mega Boss is what you'll see in shouts). This will get you your 2nd lunar abyssite. Your third one will come after the 7th zone boss, so as you see shouts for other mega bosses, try to get in as much as possible to work on your 3rd lunar abyssite. Now, on to the goodies.

Atma of the Razed Ruins (RR) - this is the atma you will use 100% of the time. Look it up, learn about Ironclad Pulverizer so you can be prepared for this fight. If monk is your only job, you will probably have to settle for not doing much for this fight.

Atma of the Gnarled Horn (GH) - another atma you will use almost 100% of the time, especially for tanking. With these 2 atmas, even if you only have 2 lunar abyssite you will notice a significant increase on not just your damage, but your tanking ability.

Atma of the Voracious Violet (VV) - you see this one a lot on the forums too. Very powerful DD atma. Before Atma of the Apocalypse you will be using these 3 most of the time.

Atma of the Ascending One - you will want this to farm your AF3+1 body seals to fight Gamayun. With this atma + Shell + Baraera, Gamayun will be a joke.

Atma of the Ebon Hoof - not really necessary, but if you happen to get it, the bonus hp just makes you a beast of a tank, especially with Abyssites of Merit

Others - there are a few other atmas that are more situational. For example, monks are considered tanks, so a magic defense bonus atma can come in very handy. Atma of Vicissitude and Atma of Brother Wolf are both fairly easy to obtain. I prefer Vicissitude for the extra defense and regen, but Brother Wolf can definitely be handy for things like Itzpapalotl or other NMs with nasty fire damage. The other +100 resist atmas can all be situationally useful. Not something I would focus on, but if you happen to see a shout for it, it wouldn't be a bad idea to go pick it up. Also, some monks prefer the Atma of Roaring Laughter over Gnarled Horn. I personally use GH but I plan to get the Roaring Laughter and check it out some time.

Abyssites of Merit - these are arguably THE MOST important abyssites for a monk, besides the lunar abyssite of course. 4 of the 6 is just solo work, so get to it when you have some solo time.
Azure - you can look up how to raise your reputation and what not. The quests are very easy. The rep grind - just do 2 turn ins every 2 hours so that you can utitlize those 2 hours for other things.
Indigo - Xibalba is a pain in the anus. Bring a full alliance and keep reraise on yourself. This is the hardest one to get imo. So make sure you have all the red procs because you DO NOT want to have to do this NM a second time.
Ivory - 6k cruor
Jade - The 2nd hardest one to get. Warbler can be really annoying. Having a couple extra evasion tanks with you and a good healer makes him pretty easy. I also highly suggest making sure you have the jobs to proc red on him. I remember low-manning him with about 5 people I think.
Viridian - Bhumi is easy solo with RR and GH, even if you're nakid.


And now for the gear. A pretty pink monk is all fine and dandy, but after a while I really got tired of being in pink all the time as I started to look at it as an easy way to advertise "I'm a NOOB!" So yeah, let's look at the AF3+1 seals and see what we need to get. (Btw I'm not going to tell you how to get the AF3 base items as you can look that up yourself). If you've done the research, you will notice that every seal for every slot can drop from 3 different NMs, so it's a matter of choosing which NM is the easiest for you, then forming the group. As far as forming a group goes, as a monk, you're expected to tank, and in my personal experience, I found it MUCH easier to do my own shouts and find the jobs I wanted. The ideal setup would be MNK/NIN (or MNK/WAR), BLM/BRD, BLU/NIN, and WHM/whatever. Sometimes I had BLM that couldn't sub bard but my whm or blu could. Sometimes I just couldn't find all the proc jobs and just settled without. I tried to waste as little time in Jueno as possible.

Before AF - there are some easy pieces I highly suggest you pick up off the AH or through quests. You can get these between getting atmas or before getting atmas. Either way. Some of these you'll see on 1-75 equipment guides but I guess I'm reiterating them here for the simple fact that they are easy to get and/or cheap.
1) Ultion Mantle - arguments on forums that this is actually the best damage dealing cloak when tanking. Super cheap
2) Fuma Sune-ate - 3% haste boots. Not capped on haste? Use them. I bought mine for 5k on the AH
3) Raja's Ring - complete COP. You can solo or duo the entire mission story line with crap gear. I did.
4) Brutal Earring - I duo'd the coins as MNK/NIN with a NIN/DNC. We were able to beat all floors easily, and with another friend we were able to full clear all floors. Much easier than trying to buy coins off people I think.
5) Brown Belt - little time consuming on the quest, but anyone who plays monk should have either brown or black belt (Twighlight for certain monks)
6) Thew Bomblet - should be super cheap on the AH now
7) Kema's Earring - fairly cheap
8) Spiral Ring - fairly cheap. When I had the money, I bought Heed Ring.
9) Neck - honestly, I found myself using either Spectacles or Tiger Stole for so long. I'd love to get Faith Torque but haven't convinced anyone to help me do it yet. Would also love to get Tantra Necklace too. But for a beginner monk, I ended up just using Tiger Stole mostly until I got evasion torque for my ninja, dancer, and thief. Then I just decided to use it on monk too until I get something good.

Also, I'd suggest doing the AF1 quests for macro gear. At the very least get the Temple Cyclas.l

Ok, so now you have your Aurore Gear and some good, cheap gear in a fairly short amount of time. I think the only pieces I spent a significant time on was the Brown Belt, Raja's Ring, and Brutal Earring. But those items are so good, and so easy for how good they are, you really should go get them.

On to AF3+1 gear.

Tantra Crown +1 - your best option here is to farm Berstuk. The other NMs are kindof a pain and the other seals are less common. Berstuk shouts happen occasionally and you can either make your own shouts or sit in Jeuno and wait for a shout. Up to you.

Tantra Gloves +1 - Audumbla is sooo easy. I've solo'd him as a pretty pink ninja/dancer but I definitely preferred having other jobs for faster kills and grellow.

Tantra Hose +1 - Avalerion is pretty annoying, but you can also get a free Spiral Ring which is pretty nice. I didn't go this route though. I joined a group doing Minax Bugard which I also don't really recommend unless you have 2 tanks because Tyrant Tusk can just be a real pain if it instantly KOs you. However, I happened to be very lucky on this and got 8 tantra seals in 6 kills. Athamas is definitely the easiest of these 3 and is also just a spawned time so you don't even need to farm pop items. The only issue would be competition with other seal farming groups.

Tantra Cyclas +1 - I've never even seen the Ironclad Triturator or a shout for him. I highly recommend doing Gamayun. If you don't have competition, it's the easiest way to farm body seals. A few things to know though.
1) You have to get a Colorful Demilune Abyssite. If it gets upgraded to Indigo when you spawn Gamayun, go get another, but DO NOT throw away your Indigo. Keeping the Indigo will keep your second Colorful from being upgraded. Also, Gamayun ALWAYS, 100% of the time, will spawn in the area northeast of base camp where the Limules are. He does roam as far as northeast of conflux 6, but once you get that first kill, your group needs to warp back to conflux 1 and then just run to the Limule area and wait for him to spawn again. I suggest either farming time, or zoning out for 9 minutes while you are waiting on Gamayun to respawn.

Tantra Gaiters +1 - I saved these for last because they aren't really valuable until you get AF3+2 gear or cap haste. You'll basically want to use Fuma Sune-ate and use that 3% haste. Still, you'll want to get the AF3+1 because you definitely want them and the AF3+2 later on, just no need to focus on them. But anyway, Iku-Turso is the way I went. He was very easy for my group. Also the pop items are pretty easy to farm and I think they're really cheap too. I've never done Pascerpot but I've heard he's pretty easy as well, just more annoying b/c of paralyze and paralyga. Hanuman is a timed spawn which is always nice, and he's not camped often. Also nice. However there's a reason why. He can heal himself for up to 4k which is pretty annoying and every time he heals he gains a mini hundred fists. All his spells he casts are aoe and he has ensilence so a very rough fight for ninja or /nin. However, if your mages stay out of range, I personally think it's an easy fight for mnk/war tank.

Well, that about covers it for getting your 90 monk started. I may be missing some things. I didn't include AF3+2 because by the time you get your atmas and AF3+1 you should be good to go on your own. Good Luck!

-Peldin (Sylph server)

Edited, Jun 12th 2011 3:41pm by xxPhyrexx
#2 Mar 15 2011 at 4:33 PM Rating: Good
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xxPhyrexx wrote:
Once you hit level 90 on your monk and you've skilled up your H2H, the first thing to focus on is finishing up those merits. I would recommend the following:
Kick Attack Rate 5/5
Counter Rate 5/5
Formless Strikes 1/5
Pennance 5/5
And personally I did Invigorate 4/5 but depending on what you are doing, you may find another merit more useful. I did Invigorate mostly for soloing purposes (I actually did 5/5 in this and then later as I started doing more in abyssea, I capped Pennance and dropped and point in Invigorate)


Counter and KA 5/5 are the traditional picks, but replacing KA with Chakra recast is reasonable for a MNK who does a lot of solo.

Formless 1/5, Penance 4/5 or 5/5, Invigorate 4/5 or 5/5 are standard. But honestly, Formless Strikes is barely useful any more and I'm personally thinking of dropping it and doing 5/5 Penance and Invigorate.

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1) Ultion Mantle - arguments on forums that this is actually the best damage dealing cloak when tanking. Super cheap

Get Forager's too for when you're not tanking.

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3) Raja's Ring - complete COP. You can solo or duo the entire mission story line with crap gear. I did.
7) Kema's Earring - fairly cheap

Grammar police: RAJAS. KEMAS.

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9) Neck - honestly, I found myself using either Spectacles or Tiger Stole for so long. I'd love to get Faith Torque but haven't convinced anyone to help me do it yet. Would also love to get Tantra Necklace too. But for a beginner monk, I ended up just using Tiger Stole mostly until I got evasion torque for my ninja, dancer, and thief. Then I just decided to use it on monk too until I get something good.


At least grab a Chiv Chain. Faith, Tantra, Agasaya's are what you're working toward.

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Also, I'd suggest doing the AF1 quests for macro gear. At the very least get the Temple Cyclas.


Definitely get the AF1 hands, feet, head, and body for macro pieces.

For AF2 pieces, your targets are feet (Counterstance macro) and hands (Chakra macro, decent DD option). Body is a resting/idle regen piece, legs and head aren't really needed.

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Tantra Gaiters +1 - I saved these for last because they aren't really valuable until you get AF3+2 gear or cap haste.

Hanuman is a timed spawn which is always nice, and he's not camped often. Also nice. However there's a reason why. He can heal himself for up to 4k which is pretty annoying and every time he heals he gains a mini hundred fists. All his spells he casts are aoe and he has ensilence so a very rough fight for ninja or /nin. However, if your mages stay out of range, I personally think it's an easy fight for mnk/war tank.


Tantra +1 feet are valuable right away as a very good WS piece. Hanuman is a pretty easy solo MNK/DNC - stun -ga spells with Desperate Flourish, use Drain Samba II and Waltzes to cure yourself. I used GH, Mounted Champion, and Apoc or RR and had no problem - took about 4-5 min per kill at lv90. Utter joke as a duo with a BLM buddy for yellow procs.
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#3 Mar 15 2011 at 7:49 PM Rating: Good
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For AF2 pieces, your targets are feet (Counterstance macro) and hands (Chakra macro, decent DD option). Body is a resting/idle regen piece, legs and head aren't really needed.

AF2 has not been an option for me personally. Perhaps others may have friends or may be able to find a LS that still does Dynamis. It just hasn't been something I've tried to seek out.

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Get Forager's too for when you're not tanking.

Monk not tanking? Interesting. I may try that some day.

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Grammar police: RAJAS. KEMAS.

lol thanks for the catch. I just kinda wrote this up off the top of my head. With FFXI being down and everything I suddenly have a lot of free time on my hands =/

Thanks for the reply though. Mounted Champion is a very good atma that I did not mention here. However, I'm highly considering 2-boxing my own WHM like so many other monks are doing. I did it on Everquest for years so I don't think it will be an issue here. If I do, the only atmas I plan to use will be RR, GH, VV, and Apoc.
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The ideal setup would be MNK/NIN (or MNK/WAR), BLM/BRD, BLU/NIN, and WHM/whatever.

To be honest, most +1 seal NMs are such wimps*, that blu/whm can easily main heal (now finding one that's willing is a different story), unless it happens to be around lightsday and you don't want to risk proc being banish 3 or holy. And if you don't take whm, you can add thf there for TH. Even tho yellow proc is more important than TH, it doesn't hurt to have both. ^_^ Plus thf makes farming pop items a lot faster.

*Main exceptions being things that require potent shell and barspells like Garuda VNM.
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For AF2 pieces, your targets are feet (Counterstance macro) and hands (Chakra macro, decent DD option). Body is a resting/idle regen piece, legs and head aren't really needed.

AF2 has not been an option for me personally. Perhaps others may have friends or may be able to find a LS that still does Dynamis. It just hasn't been something I've tried to seek out.


We'll see what the Dynamis changes end up looking like in the next update, but if getting relic gear is something you can do solo/lowman (seems like a good chance), Melee Gloves/Gaiters are definitely items you want.


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Get Forager's too for when you're not tanking.

Monk not tanking? Interesting. I may try that some day.


Besides situations where you aren't tanking, Forager's is far better than Ultion for WS.


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Thanks for the reply though. Mounted Champion is a very good atma that I did not mention here. However, I'm highly considering 2-boxing my own WHM like so many other monks are doing. I did it on Everquest for years so I don't think it will be an issue here. If I do, the only atmas I plan to use will be RR, GH, VV, and Apoc.


Yeah, RR/GH/Apoc really are the standard. Even VV is something I rarely use on MNK over those "big 3". But there are some handy other Atma that are good for situational use - Mounted Champion is a fantastic solo option, for instance.
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I also like Atma of the Brotherwolf, like the way it just eats up fire dmg on top of Bar Fire and a Fire carol (from the blm/brd lol).

I think what Peldins ofering is advice from his own experiance, he hasn't played the game long but has already accomplised a great deal in that time aswell as being fairly close to Rev Fists+2 (just WoE standing in the way etc.)


I'd work on Agasaya's collar, very nice neck piece that will put your neck problems to a thing of the past.

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Sand it is good to see you on these forums! What are you doing to pass your time while the servers are down? How can we chat? Do you have a vent or anything? Send me a PM or something.

As for the Agasaya's, yeah it's my plan to get that and tantra necklace. I just didn't really include them in this post because they aren't items you will focus on before AF gear and not items you can just easily get or buy for cheap. But yes! Chivalrous Chain is probably your best bet as far as a neck slot item at this stage. I don't remember the price but I probably should have replaced my Tiger Stole/Spectacles with it before I started farming Abyssea.

As for Walk of Echoes, I've given up on that time sink. Yes, Chloris is going to be a pain but I have a few friends now that are willing to help me get it and Verethragna's aftermath is just so good, I can't really settle for 2nd best (old MMO habits lol). Right now we're in the process of finishing our AF3+2 gear and getting some AF3+1 gear for my ninja and my friend's warrior so that we can farm pop item NMs faster.

But anyway, Sand let's chat some time! This week has been so boring lol.
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What are you doing to pass your time while the servers are down?


Dragon Age II - it has to be done, looking like we might be without FFXI for a long time so i'll pick up a copy of Dissidia II aswell when its available.

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As for Walk of Echoes, I've given up on that time sink. Yes, Chloris is going to be a pain but I have a few friends now that are willing to help me get it and Verethragna's aftermath is just so good, I can't really settle for 2nd best (old MMO habits lol).


I'm doing Vere too, WoE is just a mess. Working on 2 Masa's and a Vere with 2 friends. At least the + side with Chloris is the NM is stupidly easy.

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Right now we're in the process of finishing our AF3+2 gear and getting some AF3+1 gear for my ninja and my friend's warrior so that we can farm pop item NMs faster.


Nin +2 body is a nice easy one, Amarok is very easy, just the pop set costs around 80-100k which puts some ppl off, Orthrus is popped from Amarok's KI and is also ok - just a butt-load more HP, defence, and a load of fire attacks that a MNK has no problem eating up. Also drops the Atheling Mantle 100%, and a useful Atma with fire resist+100 on it which u can use for Orthrus if you want to play it safe.

my memory is fked lol

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Hey I have returned from a long break and I am now just starting to gear my monk back up again, I have read through your gear list and I am not sure if it worth it to upgrade my gear to it or just start on the af3

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/profile.xml?138972

Raja's Ring i do have but I need to wait 27 days till i can get it again and i am working on a Brutal Earring.

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Ok. I guess I can start from top to bottom.

Weapon - Try to get Taurine Cesti or do the Fire path for Taipan Fangs.
Ammo - stick with Thew Bomblet. It's a solid choice
Helm - Tantra+1 is better than Optical Hat
Neck - Do some research on Agasaya's Collar. It's a goal you can shoot for later on.
Earrings - merman's are good for macro pieces, but for TP, go with the 2 I suggested
Body - Tantra+1
Gloves - Tantra+1
Rings - Rajas to replace Sniper's, and you can just stay with Uthalam for now, if you want. An alternative is Heed Ring which is like 100k roughly. Spiral Ring is a cheaper alternative, and off the top of my head I think it's better than Uthalam but I don't remember for sure.
Back - stay with your cloak for now if you aren't tanking. Grab an Ultion Mantle for when you are tanking. Later down the road you'll get an Atheling Mantle as your best-in-slot.
Belt - brown is solid. hopefully one day you'll get black =)
Legs - Tantra+1
Feet - 3% haste from Fuma Sune Ate will be better damage. Also you will still want to work on Tantra+1
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Hey Peldin, you ever have problems getting or making seal parties? In my experience, people don't want MNKs because they want proc jobs and the NMs are usually easy enough that MNKs aren't needed.
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For joining parites, yes. At first I leveled my thief to 90 because I thought people would want me for treasure hunter. That did help a little bit. Then I leveled ninja to 90 and that helped a little bit too. But honestly, I found much higher success by forming my own parties. For my monk body +1 seals, I formed several groups over the course of a week to get all 10 seals. I realized something about the FF population. Most people don't even give much thought to who or what the party leader is, they just want someone who will do the work of forming and leading the group. If you don't believe me, look at the majority of xp parties. Who's the alliance leader 90% of the time? It's almost always some level 30-50ish leacher who decided to take the time and effort to form the alliance. Nobody cares that he won't do anything but open chests.

Now, many people don't like forming groups. Well, honestly, your only other option then is to level up white mage and/or black mage to make yourself more useful for seal farming parties. Sure, ninjas and thieves are really nice to have for farming seals, but SO many people have ninja and/or thief. Well, that's just the way it is on my server anyway. It's a lot lot lot LOT more rare to find someone who has white mage.

Another note, monks normally don't make the greatest tanks for poorly geared, or poorly skilled healers. Yes we have a lot of hp and good damage output, but we can still be pretty big mana sponges compared to evasion tanks. There are certain NMs that are just way easier to tank as ninja than monk, and vice versa. For example, Gamayun drops monk body +1 seals, but he is easier to tank with a ninja because his accuracy is crap, but his melee hits are strong. However, Orthrus drops ninja body+2 seals, and he's far easier to tank as a monk.

Anyway, the best advice I can give to you is this: be versatile. With how easy it is to level up jobs, you may want to invest a little time in to leveling jobs that are more desired in abyssea (WHM, BLM, THF, NIN, WAR, BLU, BRD).

Also, the second biggest thing I've learned about FFXI. Making friends is key to a successful FFXI career. I didn't realize how big of a deal this was until I met up with the group of friends I play with now. Our small group of 8 people can do anything in Abyssea. We ended up forming our own little LS and we've farmed +2 gear for everyone's main and secondary jobs in a very quick amount of time. It is SO much more beneficial to have a small group of friends than it is to be in a big alliance.

For example - my friend Mutilator just came back to the game a couple months ago. He had a friend who had just come back to the game a couple months before him. Well, his friend joined a big LS and Mutilator started hanging out with our little group of friends. Mut's friend is still working on +2 gear for his main job. Mutilator has already finished his +2 gear for his THF and almost done with his RDM as well as full +1 sets for his SAM and MNK. That's not to mention other stuff he's accomplished during that time, like Nyzul Isle climb 1-100 as well as certain trial weapons and other goodies he's got.

So again I'll reiterate, a small group of friends will get you MUCH further in abyssea than a large alliance-sized linkshell.
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We can all finish that AF2 gear we've been needing now thanks to the dyna update. Nin/dnc is fine solo (although not optimal obviously) but great for grabbin those AF pieces. The KI costs one-off 50K then your set to go. +10 Counter on Counterstance is what its all about, and the Melee gloves for Chakra macro's.


Yeah MNK has got left behind slightly this lkast couple of months from my own experiance, not being able to azure kill, amber kill doesn't help, and caster mobs make healing mnk hard work for healers.
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Question for the af+1 body Gamayun is riping me to sherds even with Atma of the Ascending One and a whm what should i be doing other then /nin tanking it?
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Do with 4 ppl? Make a quick /sh offering the 2 ramaining seals up for lock on for the 2 jobs you want in the party.

Black mage - aside from the grellow factor, an AF3+1 blm who knows what hes doing will drop some massive bombs on Gamayun, which is especially useful going 25% > 0% and stuning.

Then grab a Blu/brd or a Thf. Having a Thf around is always useful incase you or your healer messes up and you KO.

If your using Ascending one, much better to stack it with Baraero and a carol. Is you WHM forgeting to haste you at times? Makes all the difference in fighting NM's for recast timers alone. If he or she is, make sure you ask for it qas soon as it wears.

Also - do you have all your abyssites of merit (or all but the annoying quest one)? I didn't use ascending one, I used RR/GH/VV (before I had Apoc) and never had any problems in a 4man setup.

MNK+WHM is just slowing down the kill speed as its melee resistant. At the least get a BLM for spe
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I had mnk whm blm and thf but i think it was my lack of abyssites of merit i think i only have 3 out of the 6 but i found a group last night and got my last 3 seals ^^
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Have a -MDT set. Not just for Gamayun but for all jobs. You will find it immensely helpful in everything you do. I have no problem surviving Gamayuns 2hr with Shell V and a -MDT set, just macro it in when you see her ready the move. There is a good chunk of time between when she readies the move and uses it, so your WHM can get ready with a cure bomb. I think I actually survive it fine even without putting on my -MDT set, and that's on THF with less HP. I use RR/Apoc/SS.
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Gamayun is just much easier for an evasion tank because her accuracy isn't all that great. I don't even need Utsusemi Ichi on my ninja. Granted, I have full AF+2 on my nin with 2 agi/eva katanas, but still, I remember back before I even had ninja and I was working on my monk AF+1. I used to go with WHM, BLM, THF, and myself... and I remember our THF was easier to keep up than I was.

If you have THF or NIN, I would suggest tanking with that. If you aren't getting hit by melee moves, then the only damage your healer has to worry about is Wind Blade, Aerial Blast, and Aero IV (blood pact). All of which are TP moves, so it's very easy to get a tank back to full when they aren't taking melee damage.

That's not to say a monk can't tank it. I made it a point to get my 6/6 abyssites of merit as soon as possible. Now, when I go in to Aby - Grauberg, - Altepa, or - Ulegrand, my monk has anywhere from 3.8 - 4k health without any hp atmas.

But yeah, since I don't have a -MDT set I would still tank with Atma of the Ascending One, Shell V, and Baraera. Aerial Blast did less than 300 to me, but you also have to keep in mind that the damage can be random. My friend had the same exact buffs I did and the same Aerial Blast that hit me for less than 300 still hit him for about 2k. But a 2k Aerial Blast to a Thief puts him at red health with no shadows. 2k to a monk still leaves you with another 2k health.

Abyssites of merit are important for everyone in my opinion. My Ninja rolls around with 3k health in the same zones. About 2.5k or 2.6k in La Theiene, Tahrongi, and Konschat. The extra hp makes a huge difference in survivability and it keeps your healer's from dying of heart attack at an early age =P
#19 Jun 18 2011 at 4:36 AM Rating: Decent
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Its difficult finding the energy to grab the final merit abbysite, I think I did 9-10 fame building quests once in Konsact, but really, at this stage in the game for me thats burn out stuff. I'd have to get stupidly high or drunk, and I doubt even then I'd feel like doing them. I like the sound of those HP values though, On Nin I'm on 2.35K in La'theine and 2.7Kish in hero'm, and 3.5-3.6K on MNK in Hero's so the difference would be welcomed.

That damn quest has been eating away at the back of my mind for months now too lol.

Edited, Jun 18th 2011 6:37am by Sandmasterr
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#20 Jun 20 2011 at 3:35 AM Rating: Decent
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Thanks for all the info. Yeah, I know to be versatile in abyssea - in fact, I took up THF for this sole purpose. Getting into seal parties hasn't been as hard since. Just need to work on my 3+1 body for now. Dunno when I'll manage to get my +2s though.

I'd certainly like to befriend some small dedicated abyssea linkshell like you described Peldin, but I imagine it's just chance to wind up in one.

Another question: Is it now possible to solo Jailer of Faith? I'd like to get that Faith torque and it'd probably be hard to get someone to help.
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I leveled MNK from 31 to 83 this weekend, but fortunately my lvl 90 PUP provides a lot of decent gear and capped/high skills so I'm not pinkgimp.

I am wondering though, how to set up my macros. RDM and PUP eat macro slots like candy, but what about MNK? Anyone mind sharing their common macros?
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#22 Jun 20 2011 at 8:10 AM Rating: Good
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Depends what you subjob. There's already a macro thread for MNK/DNC. For MNK/WAR mine looks something kinda like this:

WS - Provoke - Focus/Aggresor - Dodge - Chakra - Chi Blast - Blank - pop item - Forbidden Key - Perfect Counter
Alternate WS - Counterstance/Berserk/Warcry - Impetus - Re-equip TP gear - Re-equip TP gear - Equip Club - Equip Staff - Boost - Defender - Holy Water (for Chloris)
#23 Jun 21 2011 at 10:53 AM Rating: Excellent
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/war and /nin are near identical:

Boost          Dodge           Focus          Smite     Cataclysm  Impetus  Counterstance  Berserk      [Misc]      ForbiddenKey 
Provoke/Utsu1  PerfectCounter  Warcry?/Utsu2  ChiBlast  MDT/PDT    Kite     AccGear        EvasionGear  ResetGear   Chakra


Where [Misc] is used whenever I need an extra macro slot for something, such as holy waters on Chloris.

Still occasionally play with ideas for rearranging the macros for JAs on 5 minute timers (eg: putting Impetus on C-2 or C-3 to increase likelyhood of remembering to use it when timer is up).

Edited, Jun 21st 2011 11:54am by Kinematics
#24 Jul 14 2011 at 11:17 AM Rating: Good
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Peldin's original post was fantastic, and I used it religiously when I came back to the game.

I'm at the point now where I'm progressing nicely with a full set of AF3+1 and some other nice pieces (BB, almost done with Taipan +2, etc). 13/50 Chloris buds, too.

But I haven't set out to work on my +2 items yet. I managed to pick up legs from friends farming, but need to start on the other four pieces. Anyone have any advice on the best/easiest mobs to farm for those?

I don't have an LS really, so ideally it would be things I could farm with dualboxed with MNK + WHM.

Thanks.
#25 Jul 14 2011 at 1:04 PM Rating: Excellent
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Head: Jewel of Vision
NM corse Titlacauan in Attohwa can drop 3. Dual-box fight is mildly difficult.
Of the remaining that drop 1 jewel at a time, the T3 VNM in Konschtat seems like an easy choice, though not sure whether you can expect a drop without grellow proc. Can also get from Turul.

Body: Card of Ardor
There's 10 different NMs that drop it, including the NM corse that drops the Vision Jewels.
Other option is Alfard in Grauberg; can drop 3 cards. Fairly easy fight as long as you are always behind him (prevents use of nasty AOE moves).

Hands: Jewel of Wieldance
Resheph (zone boss in Uleg) is fairly easy as long as you're on top of the Tarsal Slam move. Dual-box could be tricky.
Ironclad Severer is fairly easy with a pair of nukers kiting it around. A straight fight shouldn't be that difficult.

Feet: Coin of Voyage
Sedna, the zone boss in Vunkerl, would probably be fairly easy to dual box. It's not a really dangerous fight, just ridiculously annoying trying to get procs. Use a heavy barwater/MDT setup, and just mnk/war since shadows are useless. Can drop 3 coins if you can manage a proc, so likely the best choice.
Ketea, the t3 VNM in Vunkerl, is fairly easy, but also heavily camped, so not sure if it'd be worthwhile for a single person to go after.



Overall, looks like Titlacauan + Ironclad Severer + Sedna would work out best, aside from the difficulty in collecting key items for pops. A couple options for mobs that drop 3 of each item, but you won't have an easy time getting that with only a whm and /nin for magic.

#26 Jul 14 2011 at 8:38 PM Rating: Good
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Helm - Ulhuadshi. It will take you at least 6 kills, but it looks like you're working toward Verethragna, so any chance you have to kill Ulhuadshi, take it, and take the fangs. My lil group of friends did Ulhuadshi several times for +2 seals. By the time I finished the Chloris trial I already had 23 Ulhuadshi fangs.

Body - I don't have good advice for this one. I know I got a few from Empousa but he can be really tough. Definitely not viable for 2-box. I'm pretty sure I got at least one or two from Hedjedjet but he is also not an ideal 2-box fight. Come to think of it, I really have no clue how I got my 10 cards of ardor, lol.

Hands - I got mine from Amphitrite, but not really by choice. I helped a couple different friends do Amphitrite for their zone boss win and got the jewels as a bonus. I can almost promise you though, that you can kill Resheph, 6 times, faster than you can kill Amphitrite, 2 times. Also Melo melo is impossible for monk/whm duo.

Feet - Like Kinematics suggested, I also suggest Sedna mainly because you can get some body pieces while doing it. I don't think Ketea is heavily camped anymore, but that's a pretty big time sink for only one coin. I can't remember who I got mine from. I probably got like 4-5 from Sedna and then snagged the rest from Ketea while farming for my friend's BLM feet.


P.S. If you already have ninja leveled, I highly suggest 2-boxing that instead of monk. You will have a lot more red procs for farming KI (ninjas can proc as many red procs as warriors) and you'll be able to let your whm go blm for some things, giving you a lot more yellow proc opportunities too.
#27 Jul 15 2011 at 7:23 AM Rating: Good
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Thanks guys, I really appreciate the responses. And that's a good point about NIN. I have it leveled but it's not great. I should work on it.

Got my crown from Titlacauan last night. Ended up having help from other guys who were 2boxing characters, so I can't comment on just doing it with MNK+WHM. But there does seem to be some luck involved. I think we fought him five times. In one fight, he never used charm until we had him to 3%. But in others he was really spammy with it. I imagine you can kite him while your MNK is charmed if you're 2boxing, but if he decides to spam you're gonna suffer. If you go WHM/BLM, you can stun Death and ga4, but you can't dispel Momento Mori. If you go /RDM, you lose stun. Going trio MNK+WHM+BLM for stun/sleep/kite/grellow would make the fight much easier.

Definitely going to work on Resheph for hands, probably this weekend. I'll report back what I find. Turns out both accounts have a KI on them already.
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