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Sadly yes you will need a static, preferably one that is farming other mobs in zone at the same time and just track who has which pop items.

Best way is to get 5 people to help, go in and farm KI till you can pop it 6x time then kill it 6x in a row.

With a THF with TH6+ you will get 2 buds abou 75% of the time. So youll average 9-12 per 6 kills. Which isnt terrible if you know how to farm gold boxes. Your looking at maybe 2 hrs to farm them, then ~30 minutes for the 6 kills.

A static is in no way shape or for required, but you'll complete your trial much faster if you have one. Though, if it's not an option, it's pretty simple to dual box the entire Chloris trial, it'll just take longer. Obviously some jobs will be preferred over others.


Edit: yes, all 4 KIs can drop in chest

Edited, Feb 7th 2011 10:31am by Veggeto

Well, Chloris took me 2 and a half weeks. No doubt at all you could finish in 2-3 days w/ a group. However, take that 2-3 days and let's say you have a 5 man group.

10-15 days. Once you hit a 6 man group, you're looking at roughlythe same amount of time of work put in in the grand scale, not just for your specific.

As for the lv 85 version, Ulhuadshi is a joke. I finished that trial in 3 days. (many ppl who want af3 can usually fill a group in a singe shout)

Backhand Blow isn't too shabby if you don't have Ascetic's Fury.

It wins over Asuran if you have RR+Apoc atma. If you don't have a nice extra chunk of double/triple attack, it's mostly a wash, or possibly Asuran a bit ahead.

I have heard about a way to reset weakness when KI farming by confluxing and having the monster lose aggro. How does one go about doing this as my only attempt last night led to the monster depoping before I was able to reclaim after confluxing back.

you could do it trio with that setup, but I would really suggest just having your GF lv whm :D thats what they are for ya know! It would not hurt for your gf to lv whm though you can duo most stuff in abys that way anyhow, so it save both you time and energy in the long run.

so...

have GF level whm
change pocket rdm to pocket thf with max TH
Pimp your mnk
wipe zones and get drops $$$

How do u deal with Hedetet and Hell Scissors in a 2box scenario?

Buuump but not really, still on front page but whatever. Really actively started farming fangs about a week ago, 50/50 on those as of yesterday. Now only that pink f***king mandy stands in my way, but will hopefully finish those in about a week or so. Cleave farming really is not the way to go for this, unless you are trying to get Glavoid sets in the process. It is too hit or miss for my tastes. Really hoping to finish in the next week or so so i can stand amongst the mnk gods!

I have a small static consisting of:
Myself - Monk or Ninja (have gimp dnc and thf)
Friend1 - dual box WHM/SCH and BLM/BRD
Friend2 - Thief or Warrior (also has gimped whm and blm)

We haven't decided how to go about tackling the Chloris trial yet for my Empyrean weapon. I've heard and read that gold chest farming is the way to go, but I've also read that NM farming is the way to go. With my small static group, I was thinking that we could possibly fell cleave farm gold chests with Friend2 on warrior and myself on monk. Or, we could also farm pop items on NMs with Friend2 on warrior and myself on ninja.
Thoughts?

Also, what atmas do warriors use to fell cleave with? Since we don't have a RDM for phalanx, how do we deal with the damage from multiple mobs?

For what it's worth, here's my experience in this matter-

We farm for empyreans as an LS and thought gold-box farming would be the way to go. I mean with 15+ people killing, gold chests are bound to drop everywhere and we'd get pop sets enmasse, right? I wish. After about 5 hours of farming we typically end up with 2-3 full pops for Chloris. Of course your experience may vary, but this is what I've seen after about 6 runs like this. There's simply too big of an item pool for large gold boxes to rely on them for specific KIs (Hecteye Eyelid seems to be the bottleneck for us, but that could very well just be our luck). Now with that said, we also end up with about 5 Lacovie and 2-3 Glavoid pops which we also use.

So if you're going strictly for Chloris, my opinion is to stick to NMs. If you need pops for multiple NMs, go ahead and gold box farm.

Yea, I guess the ideal way (assuming you had a large enough group) would be a mix of both. Have the majority of your group farm gold and pick up as many KI (and TE) as possible, while having a small "strike team" take out NMs + red proc to finish sets as necessary. I may try to push my LS in this direction when servers come back online.

Also just out of sheer curiosity, have those of you doing the gold box route noticed some KIs being more common than others? My group is constantly swimming in Torn Bat Wings and Gory Scorp Claw, while Hecteye Eyelids seem to be exceedingly uncommon. Mossy Adaman Shell falling somewhere in-between.

You do know the chest drops are random, eh?

Meaning of random, dumbass = Governed by chance, no pattern.
Meaning of random dumbass = lynnminmay.

I finished Verethragna Friday and am enjoying the Hell out of it, though I am interested to see the kind of damage other vere users are putting up. I myself have done a couple 6ks on fodder mobs but nothing mind blowing on anything worthwhile. What kind of damage are other vere users getting with smite?

(I know the thread is a few days old and the OP has finished now, but figured I would share my experience so far)

My experience so far is that purely gold farming is not particularly efficient. If you have lots of people it can be effective, but in an hour we saw very few KIs, and then you have a chance of them being dupes, or Glavoid/Lacovie KIs.

Ideally, I'd recommend teaming up with someone who's working on Glavoid. That way, less KIs are wasted, and you have an extra person to help (along with any help they can get). Sure, it means you have to fight Glavoid lots too, but extra people makes it a lot better.

My tactic has been to max out pearl and azure, and then spend a while farming time with AoE burning (Cataclysm/Fell Cleave/Aeolian Edge). Do this until you have enough time to last you for a while, so that you don't have to stop and worry about farming time later on.

Once you have a decent amount of time, you can max out Amber light. The mobs that give amber lights in Tahrongi (Aspids, Sandworms, Wyrms) kinda suck, so it's hardly worth taking time to farm these. It's best to just go ahead and kill the NMs you need for chloris pops, and get amber light on them. You can also kill T1 VNMs for lights, and any Ephemeral mobs you come across (though they're relatively rare in Tahrongi).

But basically, gold farming comes secondary to just farming the NMs. Just go around each NM you need, farm the pop items, kill the NMs, and max out amber lights as you go. We've been getting a good amount of KIs from gold chests like this, while still killing the NMs and getting the ones we need from that.


That said, this is much better with a few people. We've been doing this with about 4-6 people, plus some dual boxed characters, which covers specific job needs and holds extra pop sets. You want someone for red procs (WAR or NIN - fun fact, Ninja can hit just as many red procs as Warrior. Bring both if you can to cover the full set.), and a Thief for farming pop items and Chloris itself if you can. Beyond that, then just the obvious DDs and healers, or just anyone who's willing to hold pop items. Invite people along to leech exp, drops, titles, whatever, in return for holding pop sets. It makes things easier.

Quoted for accuracy and authenticity. I grow tired of reading "I never VS for less then 5k" so its nice to see some honest people left ;-p

I could do a pop set an hour and that's w/ my crappy war in full eva build + eva atma for proccing reds on NMs.

Would take about 2 hours give or take 15-20 mins on either side depending on other factors to get a pop set for my mule and myself.

What are you doing between Chukwas that make that 90 minutes 100% dedicated to Chukwa?

In 90 mins of Chukwas, while you're waiting on repops, you can be getting a bunch of other things done.

Aside from that, he's running with 6 people, you don't need all 6 at Chukwa (or any 1 NM).

Split up and do multiple things at once.

Then, you're way overestimating time per NM.

Limule, clinoid, scorp, etc take nowhere near 5 mins, even dual boxing w/ my very undergeared war, yet alone w/ 6 ppl (since you have them all together and not splitting up for w/e reason).

Only NM on that list that I'd say would take 5+ mins is the skull due to it RR'ing. MAYBE Chukwa.

Also, he said 6 pop sets, not 6 pop sets and kills, so I don't know why you added killing Chloris to that (and even then, Chloris doesn't take 5 mins either. maybe 5 when I was dual boxing it, def not w/ 6)

Edit:

What do you mean by pop items ahead of time? Like all pop items for KI NMs(bat, scorp, hecteyes) or all pop items for items that drop pop items for KI NMs?(clioid, mandy, skull).

Farming all my things ahead of time and dboxing them to myself to where I only needed to get !! NMs, I could do 2 pop sets and then change jobs and do 2 chloris in under 2hrs.

Edited, Apr 8th 2011 9:08pm by Veggeto

It's easy enough to rotate NMs. you're all going to have to run eventually to a new NM. What does it matter if you all do it at the same time? could even go into 2 groups of 3, but even if you went in groups of 2, deaggro and reclaiming NM is still going to be much faster than keeping all 6 ppl at once.


I was including the !! time, buddy. It doesn't take that long.

Between getting hints and the times the hints don't proc, it'll never AVERAGE out to 5 mins a kill.


Varies by server, I suppose. Tarnished Pincer was the 100% most common and the thing i bought most of any other pop item during my entire trial.