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#1 Nov 06 2012 at 2:14 PM Rating: Good
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Ok, I was duoing for a while in Tav on hydra with a friend, who had to go. Now I'm pretty much after BST AF2 boots, so I'd brought thf.

Well? I couldn't even solo one hydra in there. Die, die, hp. >< I'd get ganged up on or worse. Mind, I have decent gear but not uber..This isn't the first time I've had trouble soloing on thf in dynamis.

Is there any way I can improve my chances next time?
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#2 Nov 07 2012 at 1:46 PM Rating: Excellent
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I was in a similar situation recently trying to get my thf af hands and soloing dyna tav as I didn't have access to dyna xarc. The first piece of advice I will give you is if you already have dyan beau access, try there, as the city/northland zones are typically easier than the cop zones as a general rule.

Second, if that is not an option, here is my advice. First, if you are solo, sub /dnc and get a relatively decent evasion set that keeps capped haste. You could go /nin if you didn't care about procing currency all the time AND if bloody bolts work on your prey. Shadows probably wouldn't though, although it seems that dyna mobs are a different classification of mob, so it is a possibility. Mine was nothing to brag about, but it was enough to solo Demons for the full two hours if I was on top of my game.

Here it is:
Thockha STR (I don't have an eva one)
Thief Knife or Triplus (couldn't decide, I ended up getting better currency drops without Thief Knife it seemed [unparsed])
Raider's Boomerang if bloody bolts dont work on shadows, otherwise swap to xbow as needed
Raider's Bonnet +2
Evasion Torque
Suppanomimi
Brutal Earring
Raider's Vest +2
Brego Gloves
Rajas Ring
Heed Ring
Blithe Mantle
Twilight Belt
Ocelot Trousers
Raider's Poulaines +2

I could have used a bit more eva in the set, but that one worked pretty well for demons. For dagger, I just picked up the one that can give you a 3 minute haste buff, I will probably start using that one on the runs that I do. 15% more haste is quite nice.

If you are going to be duo in, I strongly recommend that whichever person will do most of the tanking goes as /nin rather than /dnc. If your friend is a bst, go /nin as you will probably split tanking time 50/50 with the pet on a good bst, a not so good one and you will tank about 80%. That way, you also have access to magic procs on rdm, smn, whm, blm, brd mobs if you happen to pull them. I wouldn't pull any of those except maybe brds or whm solo, maybe expand that to rdms if you are duo.

For TEs, I was never able to successfully solo the Eye TE, so when I was soloing, I only did 4. The one past the tauri is the hardest one, but you can do one tauri at a time to get down there, it isn't too bad.

My advice for playing as /dnc would be to keep haste samba up at all times. The extra attack speed will help you stay alive more than not expending the 35 tp to have it up. Alternatively, if drain samba works, you can try that, but I have had better survivability results with haste samba. Boxstep for finishing moves for refverse flourish and violent flourish. I didn't use referse flourish all that often unless I needed an emergency cure or something, but I was able to stun a lot of tp moves on demons with violent flourish. Substitute quickstep for evasive mobs. Lastly, do not let HP drain effects stay on your char for long. Healing waltz those as fast as possible. Prioritize Curing Waltz III over healing waltz though.

good luck
#3 Nov 08 2012 at 8:45 AM Rating: Good
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Thanks! I'll remember that; I actually have access but in my situation, my friend wanted to do tav. On hydra; I think sleep bolts would be good for when I get teh ganged up on as well; bloody wouldn't be any help at all b/c they are undead. Acid bolts might, though. It will prolly mean I need to find my old crossbow and skill that a lot. I'd been neglecting that since I got af3 boomerang..

I'll also look into improving my EVA set; I'm thinking about doing a eva dagger (Not two. Two is overkill and would gimp my damage) and get some more eva gear.
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#4 Nov 08 2012 at 1:21 PM Rating: Excellent
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If you want bst af2 boots, why not use your BST? your survivability will be much higher. While you will only have TH1, more mobs killed is probably just as good as more TH (currency from average BST vs average THF seems to confirm that)
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#5 Nov 09 2012 at 11:20 AM Rating: Excellent
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I'll think about it, but thing is I see less armor drops on BST than thf. Not much less currency but less armor. This may be Your Results May Vary but there's a reason before the changes you'd have a lot of thieves in dyn.

Bastok for the bod I may give in and use bst if I have to solo b/c one of the tks is in a terrible awful spot (I don't think I need to explain) but shoes I may be able to get away with the thf solo.

[Edit] Oh and with the help of a bst friend, I got my bst boots, yay! (They're +2ed now too.) But I'm still going to work on tweaking my thf gear; I do use it in vw and occasionally dynamis when asked; but yeah, it's a farming job. Rather have decent gear when I'm NOT th whoring. ^_^

Edited, Nov 10th 2012 10:01pm by maryadavies
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#6 Nov 28 2012 at 7:40 PM Rating: Good
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I use THF/DNC nowadays for dynamis, here's my setup:

TP set:

Aluh/Eva dagger(that I had before)
Ziska's xbow + acid bolts/blood bolts
AF3+2 helm
Love torque
Brutal/Suppa
Thaumas body
AF3+2 hands
Epona/Rajas
Atheling mantle
Twilight belt(still no luck on phasmida)
Thaumas legs
AF2+2 feet

Macro in AF2+2 hands and AF3+2 feet in steps and flourishes, a solid racc set to pull, reraise/food(Bison steak/RCB)

Pulling in more then 150 coins with competition :) compared to around 130 on BST...did pull 169 today, and 189 monday ^^
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#7 Nov 28 2012 at 10:28 PM Rating: Good
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And for WS i use:

Aluh/Eva dagger
Xbow/bolts
Oceloh Headpiece
Justiciar's torque
Brutal/Aesir ear pendant(weather in dynamis)
Loki's Kafta(VW still hates me)
AF3+2 hands
Epona/Solemn
Atheling mantle
Crudelis belt
Thaumas legs
Thaumas feet
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#8 Dec 02 2012 at 8:11 AM Rating: Good
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Thank you Hy. You're not the only one that VW hates; VW tends to hate me as well. Maybe one day it'll quit hating me. ^^ I'll see what I can do, and with the NNI changes, I hope I can get some of that gear. ^^
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#9 Dec 18 2012 at 7:26 AM Rating: Good
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Pulled 206 on saturday night :P Finally got a lucky break in VW, Morta was kind enough to drop Kudzu Aketon, Hedera Cotehardie, Supernal legs abjurations x2, Transitory legs abjurations, 1x Heavy Metal Plate and 2x Riftcinders in 12 fights last night, think I'm gonna Summoner a lot more XD :) Nice upgrade for Exentator, about to go test it out in dynamis ^^
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#10 Jan 18 2013 at 9:22 AM Rating: Good
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Earlier this week, 202 and 204 coins, and just came out with 219 coins a few minutes ago :) Did try 5/5 Thaumas on WS, works nicely ;)
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#11 Jan 18 2013 at 12:19 PM Rating: Good
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Switched for Anguinus belt on WS set, netted 209 coins on 2nd run today, so these 2 runs being my best solo on thf/dnc on easy prey so far!
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#12 Jan 21 2013 at 7:07 AM Rating: Excellent
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Pulled 206 on saturday night :P Finally got a lucky break in VW, Morta was kind enough to drop Kudzu Aketon, Hedera Cotehardie, Supernal legs abjurations x2, Transitory legs abjurations, 1x Heavy Metal Plate and 2x Riftcinders in 12 fights last night, think I'm gonna Summoner a lot more XD :) Nice upgrade for Exentator, about to go test it out in dynamis ^^


Though it's a bit late for me to comment to this, the Kudzu Aketon will definitely do better than Loki's when not stacking Exenterator with Sneak Attack. Stacking Exenterator with Sneak Attack, the DEX from and the Critical Hit Damage should pull ahead unless you are absolutely starved for Attack, which you shouldn't be given that Dynamis mobs are EP/DC. If you have them (since I'm sure you have access to them given your other gear), Thaumas Gloves are the best to WS in when not-stacked as well (unless you have Myrmex Mittens).

I don't know if you're saving your weaponskills till you can always stack them with Sneak Attack, but it might be good for you to have multiple WS sets, depending on what situation it is.

Edited, Jan 21st 2013 8:13am by Vlorsutes
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#13 Jan 22 2013 at 8:17 AM Rating: Good
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Unstacked I used Kudzu Aketon, stacked I was using Loki's with Exen before but now I'm using 5/5 Thaumas(set bonus +15) for Exen since the last 2 runs since I was already using 4/5 and the spreadsheet pointed out that it could be better with the set bonus
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212 and 222 coins(1 death too!) today, i'm getting the hang of it even without Coruscanti/Twashtar/Mandau :P
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242 coins in Dyna-bubu, teamed up with another THF who entered at same time so we splitted TE, which gave me a bit more time to stagger some nightmare mobs ^^
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238 solo all run in dyna-Qufim with 1 death, which is now my personnal best without any help for TE ^^ Can't wait to try it out with Twashtar once I get it ;)
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Looking at Thurandaut equip:

Hands are nice for Exentator if no thaumas hands set bonus
Legs are nice for racc setups and Exentator if no Thaumas legs
Body seems like best body for Exentator
Helm for Sneak Attack


Edited, Apr 12th 2013 10:37am by hyunkyl
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#19 Apr 17 2013 at 7:48 AM Rating: Excellent
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Looking at Thurandaut equip:

Hands are nice for Exentator if no thaumas hands set bonus
Legs are nice for racc setups and Exentator if no Thaumas legs
Body seems like best body for Exentator
Helm for Sneak Attack


Edited, Apr 12th 2013 10:37am by hyunkyl


For -PDT builds (for those situations where you're fighting something where Evasion really isn't going to matter), the feet are really nice, since they don't require you to give up haste in the slot.
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#20 Apr 25 2013 at 1:22 PM Rating: Good
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254 coins with 1 death! You guys can do it :P
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#21 Jun 03 2013 at 1:18 AM Rating: Decent
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Bumping this instead of creating a new topic. Looking to find a new way to farm my Umbral Marrows (as Morimar shards just got ruined, and my drop rate has been trash in there last couple days) and was thinking of Dynamis. I have a dualbox whm with me, what would be the top zone to do? I haven't done a new CoP Dynamis, so not sure how the proc rates work in there either.
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#22 Jun 05 2013 at 5:15 PM Rating: Good
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Bubu or Vulk are good for soloing. Quifim is ok if the other are too crowded (doesn't seem to happen so much these days) That's just my opinion. Use a guide for when JA proc time is. Whm is unnecessary but will probably speed stuff up a bit since you won't have to waste TP on curing.

Just get ALL Time Extensions and follow the guides on times/mobs for JA procs.

(JA = Job Ability (DNC sub)

Edited, Jun 14th 2013 12:00am by Olorinus
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