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#1 Jul 31 2012 at 1:44 PM Rating: Decent
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Edited OP to reflect updated info.

Bamboozle seems to be a single hit ability that transfers all your accumulated enmity to the player standing in front of you.

Judging by the animation, it looks like it might function just like Trick Attack. I.e. you use the ability, then land the hit or stack it with a WS.

In all likelihood, Bamboozle will also require a party member to use.





DAT mine to new 2 hour animation

Bamboozle starts at 0:36

Source: Spira on BG

Edited, Sep 7th 2012 9:53pm by Nebo1
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#2 Aug 02 2012 at 7:41 PM Rating: Decent
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Camate wrote:
The major damage dealt will be a single attack. You can kind of think of it as the way Sneak Attack is used.


So there we go. Single hit damage. Kind of "meh" but is still more damage than PD so at least it's something.

Prediciting the damage to be less than a stacked WS and requiring a party memebr to use.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/26191-New-2-hour-Abilities?p=346597&viewfull=1#post346597

Edited, Aug 3rd 2012 8:35pm by Nebo1
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#3 Aug 03 2012 at 3:26 PM Rating: Decent
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You realize the description says you have to have someone between you and the monster right? You keep speculating that it requires a person to use, but the description is fairly explicit.

Based on the translation, it looks like this will be thiefy strikes. War 2hr but with the added requirement of party position.
#4 Aug 03 2012 at 6:26 PM Rating: Decent
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Meldi wrote:
You realize the description says you have to have someone between you and the monster right? You keep speculating that it requires a person to use, but the description is fairly explicit.

Based on the translation, it looks like this will be thiefy strikes. War 2hr but with the added requirement of party position.


It's not THFly strikes like we might have hoped. SE reps have already said that it will be a single hit attack, like sneak attack. See quote in my second post.

This is the most recent translation for what was implemented on the test server:

Gildrein wrote:
Deals severe damage and transfers your enmity to the party member in front of you.


Note the difference in wording for Trick Attack:

Quote:
â– Deals extra damage when striking from behind a party or alliance member.


This cleary states requirement by qualifying the extra damage with "when striking from behind a party or alliance member."

This difference in wording could mean something....or nothing at all. Help text for abilities is notoriously vague. But the text we have so far for this ability doesn't say that you have to have a party member between you and the monster. It says it does major damage AND transfers your (implying it might have the added effect of total enmity transfer from THF to Tank) enmity to the player standing in front of you.

It would not be without precedent. RNG and DRG come to mind as having examples of damage dealing abilities that effect enmity but still deal damage in abscense of a party member standing there.

Having said that, I think it WILL require a party member to use, because this is THF we are talking about and SE isn't too fond of giving THF JA's that are useful for solo play. or much of anything at all, really, because these group events where we are the masters of the enmity universe just don't exist.

They did also say that "You can kind of think of it as the way Sneak Attack is used." Which could just be an oversight on Camate's part and he really meant to say Trick Attack, or this new 2 hour will function differently than just another Trick Attack on 2 hour recast.

Won't it be super fun if you have to be placed behind the monster AND behind a party member to use!!!??? Smiley: bah

Maybe this new 2 hour will combine with weaponskills as well to make.....SUPER SATA!!!! Smiley: disappointed

Edited, Aug 4th 2012 5:06pm by Nebo1
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#5 Aug 05 2012 at 11:47 AM Rating: Decent
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DAT mine to new 2 hour animation

THF 2 hour is a 0:36

Source: Spira on BG

Edited, Aug 6th 2012 1:26pm by Nebo1
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#6 Aug 05 2012 at 1:29 PM Rating: Decent
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DAT Mined English wording

Quote:
THF2h - Reduces your enmity while dealing severe damage when striking an enemy from behind a party member.


Source:

Quote:
This list was compiled by Julian, from BG, with the help of the awesomeness that is Ruby.


This wording says: "Reduces your enmity" Seems likely that it transfers your accumulated enmity to your Trick Partner.

Also uses that Trick Attack qualifier of "when striking behind a party member."
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