THF equipment in UpdateFollow

I am adding a few pieces that look nice for thf from the update from the .dat mines on bg.

Athos's Tabard:
DEF:63 DEX+15 AGI+15 Accuracy+7
Evasion+7
Increases critical hit damage
Set: Increases rate of critical hits
(Possible Loki's killer, depends on crit dmg+ and whether it is worth losing sTP, my guess is yes.)

Athos's Gloves Rare Exclusive
DEF:30 STR+7 DEX+7 VIT+7
AGI+7 INT+7 MND+7 CHR+7
Elemental weapon skill damage
increases depending on day
Set: Increases rate of critical hits
(Don't know about this, I guess if you don't have AF3+2)

Brego Gloves Rare
DEF:26 STR+5 AGI+5
Accuracy+9 Haste+4%

Nomkahpa Mittens Rare
DEF:28 STR+5
"Double Attack"+3%
Haste+3%

Athos's Boots Rare Exclusive
DEF:28 DEX+10 AGI+10
Accuracy+5 Evasion+5 Haste+3%
Set: Increases rate of
critical hits
(Probably the best evasion TP piece for feet you could get, probably best TP piece in general)

Asn. Armlets +2 Rare Exclusive
DEF:21 CHR+7
Accuracy+9 Evasion+9 Enmity+5
"Treasure Hunter"+2
(I know this one is already known, but TH+2)

Asn. Poulaines +2 Rare Exclusive
DEF:20 DEX+7 CHR+7
"Triple Attack"+3%
Increases "Triple Attack" damage
Enmity+4
(New DE feet? Does Increase TA damage work on WS?)

Athos's Chapeau Rare Exclusive
DEF:36 STR+8
"Magic Attack Bonus"+4
Enhances "Fast Cast" effect
Haste+5%
Set: Increases rate of critical hits
(Fast cast/AE I guess)

Athos's Tights Rare Exclusive
DEF:50 DEX+5 Haste+4%
Increases critical hit damage
Set: Increases rate of critical hits
(Decent)

The Athos's set looks pretty nice overall, but most is at least sidegrade, maybe slight downgrade.

A few more that stood out for me
Oh and credit to Julian from BG for these

Kacura Harness +1
Body
DEF:63 HP+20 STR+7 AGI+7 Accuracy+12
Ranged Accuracy+12
Critical hit rate +3%
Lv96 MNK THF RNG NIN BLU COR DNC

for those of us that still love our bolts

Kacura Mittens +1
Hands
DEF:26 DEX+5 AGI+5 Evasion+12
Critical hit rate +2%
Lv96 MNK THF RNG NIN BLU COR DNC

highest evasion gloves so far

Prosilio Belt Rare
Waist
DEF:9 STR+9 Attack+25
"Double Attack"-5%
Lv98 All Jobs

mandau peeps likey?

Artful Belt +1
Waist
DEF:11 DEX+10
Lv96 All Jobs

Engulfer Cape Rare
Back
DEF:10 MP+30
Occasionally absorbs
magic damage taken
Lv99 WAR MNK RDM THF PLD DRK BST BRD RNG SAM NIN DRG BLU COR DNC

Rancor Mantle Rare
Back
DEF:15 Attack+17 "Tonberry's Grudge"
Lv98 All Jobs

another good ws piece to go with collar

I guess my doubt on that piece for DE comes from just how awesome AF3+2 are. +1 STR/DEX on AF3+2 and 16 atk and 12 acc vs. 7 CHA.... I just don't know if I would actually use this for DE. For the new WS, solo I would definitely use it, TA I would still use AF1+1.

Not saying your wrong but check out the denali gameshes upgraded version versus the boots you have there. I think the denali upgrades would be better if I remember right. But the haste and accuracy on these make them better to tp in I guess.

I'm not sure if this will see much use because of the slow it takes up, but nevertheless



Brego Gloves, ocelo headpiece +1, raiders vest and culottes +2, ballerines == 25% haste. Maybe this has potential?

also this



I believe this trumps Cuchulain's, especially for Rudra's users.


Edited, Dec 18th 2011 8:33am by Melphina

I was wondering this myself. Chuchulain vs Arful+1.

Oh, I know Nyzul Gear isn't here yet, I was just pointing out that it looks very attractive for a haste build. Comparing to the set that Melphina Positted, the body would give a much better TA/QA bonus than that belt.

I like houyi's better. 6agi, 6acc. Of course SAExen will favor the 6dex. Freestyle Houyi's all the way.


Denali>Lokis unstacked. -1 agi, +9 atk yes prz.

Hands can be either brego or skadi depending on eva of mob, but 1st hit of all WS have naturally high acc, so might lean towards skadi a bit. Mob dependant.

Feet: Same deal with the acc. Mob dependant.

If mob is very very hard, good ol anguinus should do wonderfully ssince our current agi gear is severely lacking in both acc and atk.

Wouldn't a fully upgraded magian dagger with Matk be better than a Martial Knife for AE spam. You don't sacrifice 20 base damage on an inferior TP weapon, and with the INT + Matk on the dagger you should only be slightly below the performance of Martial in the best case senario for Martial anyway. Matk alone in your build gives 6.6% bonus to your AE damage vs. a 12.5% bonus for Martial(@ exactly 100 TP). The 11 INT should increase the base damage by 2-3 as well. (2.6 when calculated with @).

Frankly, I don't find myself right at 100% TP because of all the DA/TA gear I sport, even when not in Abyssea, so that needs to be factored in to the viability of Martial as an AE weapon too, with 2x 100TP bonus weapons, you have to WS @ 100tp exactly to reap the full benefits.

Just for kicks, calculating using specifically your gear set posted, this is what I come up with. Using Mirke, and Athos gloves (7 DEX and 7 INT should beat Raider's +8 DEX). Also adding 10 dex feet, since they look like the best we can do and +13 DEX from rings. Since the mod has INT as well, I would guess that INT would be a better stat to stack though as it should affect the accuracy (consistency) of AE since it is magic damage.

MAB Magian Dagger (Mithra THF/NIN no Attribute merits)
MAB = 45 (Only counting 35 in your base set unless I made a mistake.[You counted all 3 earrings, and also got an extra 1 somewhere.])
+DEX = 38
+INT = 10
+Wind = +6

Total:
DEX = 140
INT = 108

AE base Damage: 69 + 49 + 2 = 120
fTP = 3.5
AE damage: 645

Martial Knife
MAB = 35
DEX = 140
INT = 97

AE base Damage: 66 + 49 + 2 = 118
fTP = 4
AE damage: 675 (4.7% higher than Magian Dagger)

Conclusion: I assumed that base fINT was 0 (Player INT = Mob INT - 16) for the calculation, which would favor the Magian dagger to be honestwhich favors Martial Knife. Martial Knife does provide just under 5% higher damage on AE over a fully upgraded Magian dagger, which is significant. As fINT increases, that benefit decreases to about 2.5% at the fINT cap of 32 for Magian giving max benefit (+6). If you aren't worried about dealing damage during an AE spam fest, which you might not be, Martial looks like the way to go for this.

Big Edit: Looking at ffxiclopedia I found this for calculating elemental WS damage:

■Damage = (( Lv+2+WSC ) * fTP + fINT ) * Resist * Elemental Staves * Weather * MDIF * Magic Damage Adjustment

So, taking from that, base damage of the Weaponskill on both should be (49 + 2 + WSC)

Another Edit: I made a mistaken assumption about which weapon low fINT favors.

Edited, Dec 20th 2011 4:11pm by Meldi

Not sure if you guys have known about this yet but I have seen Assassin Armlets +2 on my server with a new trial on them after completion. I tried to use the moogle to look further into it but viewing through the moogle ends at +2'ing the hands. I asked the guy with them what the stats or bonus was he just said Perfect Dodge +10seconds. Just wanted to throw that out there. Has anyone else seen anything like that? And does that mean that relic can go to +5 like nyzle isle gear?

Scopuli Nails

Feet armor

dex +10, Agi + 10

it lacks the accuracy/evasion of athos boots, but it can be bought off the auction house. Worth mentioning.

Also



Not just mandau! I'll be macroing this into my exenterator weaponskill set once I get ahold of one. There's a lot of stuff I'm looking at on the auction atm for several of my jobs so I plan on holding off for while on some of these things until prices go down some, but this belt is high on my want list. It's just damn awesome (9 str is fSTR +2 if uncapped, and 29.5 attack needs no explination).

The -DA rate only affects thf/war, and even with DW3 I'll be subbing nin and/or dancer sometimes for defensive measures. Plus zerk multiplies the attack even more. It's just a really great belt for anything multi hit.

Edited, Dec 22nd 2011 7:33am by Melphina

You can get up to +6 on those rings. I think someone did the math a while back and it came out to if you have less than 5 mab on the rings, you would be better off with a +7 DEX ring. I personally think INT is the best idea for AE, because much like STR on physical WS, INT is counted twice (up to 48 INT more than mob).

+6 is for the -mdt rings in konschat