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#1 Jun 09 2011 at 5:48 PM Rating: Excellent
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I realized ffxiah has a forum recently and stumbled upon this thread. http://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/21603/fusetto2-off-hand/

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Today I got my Fusetto+2 yay me...

First thing I did was check A.E dmg on peiste's by gukamatz

No Fusetto on off hand

523
544
543
544
237
544
544

with fusetto on off hand

732
742
654
732
732
732
654
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#2 Jun 09 2011 at 6:12 PM Rating: Decent
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this makes me extremely happy.
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#3 Jun 10 2011 at 8:06 AM Rating: Good
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/phew. I had a half done STP fusetto from ages ago i was going to finish for lolBattleBrd, but i tossed it in hopes that this works (through conflicting messages).

Good news indeed ^^ I now have a half done TP bonus fusetto. Im so glad i didnt trade 1 half baked dagger for another.

/goes to try to finish it this weekend

For the TWASH! All for the mighty TWASH!
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#4 Jul 14 2011 at 7:20 AM Rating: Decent
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Would this dagger outdo the Fire kila+2 for twash?

i started one but not sure if i should take off my fire kila off hand for my Rudra stome
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#5 Jul 14 2011 at 7:57 AM Rating: Good
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Inside abyssea it's pretty much always better i think. Outside it would depend on how weak the target is.
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#6 Jul 14 2011 at 9:37 AM Rating: Default
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Wtf if that is the same for all the one handed weapons F I have a lot of work to do for many WS a tp bonus like that is just insane with a powerful main hand. Does it stack with smiting Blow I wonder +200tp >.> ... yes please ....
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#7 Jul 14 2011 at 4:39 PM Rating: Good
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EDIT: Originally I had posted some thoughts on Oneiros's knife offhanded to twashter, but looking back at it I'm going to agree with the below logic

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Target buhkis fodderlv97 fodderlv90
fusetto 254.585 361.358 422.639
kila 244.291 347.484 405.325
oneiros 242.497 345.050 404.037
triplus 241.596 344.615 403.885


At least for Twashter, I'm pretty sure the fusetto +2 tp bonus dagger is still ahead of Oneiros's. Non twashter thieves == Oneiros however, but twashter changes the rules and fusetto +2 is definately my favorite of the bunch.

Edited, Jul 15th 2011 10:51pm by Melphina
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#8 Jul 14 2011 at 5:22 PM Rating: Good
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Here are some nmbers i got outside abyssea using kinematics spreadsheet:
mithra+solors+satars+aftermath+dia2+bison steak, no haste or other buffs, and stardard lv97 mob 
fusetto    122.497 
fkila      128.396 
triplus    118.022 
oneiros    117.191


Scratch this. I just noticed something on the spreadsheet that idk if it's right. Does RS damage fully scales with tp? I mean like, will 130tp increase its damage compared to 100tp? The spreadsheet is calculating it like that. I guess this is the reason i'm seeing such big numbers with the fusetto, but is it really like that? I wonder. For some reason i think it's not lol.

But anyway, if the little experience i had farming the new nms on dyna beauc serves me for anything, getting oneiros knife will be damn hard lol (low man btw). Back in beauc we are having lots of trouble with the mnk nm. Freaking annoying nm! Spams HF and hits for 500+ a pop (and it's the very guy that drops the new melee feet for us). We tried time and time again with different tanks to no avail. We finally decided to try with perfect defense + zerg. If we don't beat it like that i'll just throw everything to the air.


Edited, Jul 15th 2011 9:21am by Laphine
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#9 Jul 15 2011 at 1:13 AM Rating: Decent
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fTP mod scales linearly between 100-200 and 200-300.
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#10 Jul 15 2011 at 7:13 AM Rating: Good
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back to valid then~
Here are some numbers inside abyssea: 
Target	buhkis		fodderlv97	fodderlv90 
fusetto	254.585		361.358		422.639 
kila	244.291		347.484		405.325 
oneiros	242.497		345.050		404.037 
triplus	241.596		344.615		403.885

I got those numbers with SA and TA Rudra. This was providing the best perfomance in the spreadsheet no matter the offhand choice, and no matter outside or inside abyssea, so i've been using it as baseline. Of course, this increases the value on fusetto too. Also inside abyssea, where soloRudra isn't so decent, stacking the ws whenever possible has the small bonus of increasing the aftermath's performance.

Oneiros should be better inside abyssea if we rely on evisceration more. And i really haven't had much need to solo tank anymore, for me this is like putting situational on situational lol. But this is not the case for those without Twashtar anyway.

Edited, Jul 15th 2011 9:20am by Laphine
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#11 Jul 18 2011 at 2:16 PM Rating: Default
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Your gonna make me have to finish that damn dagger aren't ya lol...
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#12 Jul 25 2011 at 1:02 PM Rating: Decent
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Still looking to see if Martial Knife is comfirmed to stack with the bonus from the (100+ TP bonus) dagger. I searched ffxiah and couldnt find 100% confirmed info. Thanks you, trying to work on my AE build. Also, if it does stack, would [Martal knife+(TP100 dagger(Fussetto?)] or [(occ 2-4)+(TP+100)], or [MAB Knife+(TP+100 knife)], or other be the best combos for dmg output on AE?
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#13 Jul 25 2011 at 3:31 PM Rating: Good
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Yes it stacks. Main hand martial and offhand fusetto. I believe this is the combo for achieving your max damage for a 100tp AE. Wether or not the increased frequency of WS that the occ2-4 + fusetto will give you will outweigh the lower AE damage from not WS'ing @ 300tp depends on too many other variables. Obviously, if you're brewing occ2-4 will lose.
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#14 Nov 23 2011 at 2:23 PM Rating: Decent
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Ok I think I understand all the charts and whatever else is here. So I'll just some up what I understand about this topic and if I'm wrong someone please let me know. Because of all the short hand and lack of detail in some of the answers people give it's a little hard to have a clear understanding.

First you all are talking about the Fusetto that gives +100 TP correct? Also the Kila that is being compared in the charts is the Flame/Str Kila? And finally are you guys saying the Fusetto performs better in abyssea and the Flame Kila performs better outside of abyssea?
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#15 Nov 23 2011 at 3:52 PM Rating: Decent
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The numbers in this topic are oldish. Those come from a spreadsheet.

What still matters is that you gain more from Fusetto 100tp if you use SA and TA Rudra. Since Rudra gets a massive damage boost from that extra 100tp. Other ws don't benefit as much from 100tp.

If you don't have Rudra Storm then you better of going with a STR kila+3.
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#16 Nov 23 2011 at 6:02 PM Rating: Decent
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Thanks for the quick reply. I do have most of these daggers and yeah Rudra's storm is only 20 claws away for me. Time to finish this Fusetto then
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