Mirke Wardecors Loki or af3 body for tpFollow

At lv 90 with DW3+suppa, you have 30% base DW. Adding a mirke on top is a 4.48% attack speed increase. If you use the DW boomerany (also 3%) mirke will add 4.69% attack speed. Compare that with a raw 5% crit damage (ignoring acc which is in mirkes favor, or the Fstr and atk from the 5str) and mirke wins without much sweat.

~4.5% to ~4.7% MORE attacks will beat a 5% crit damage as it will always be less than 5% damage.

Outside abyysea, best case scenario @1.0pdif:
Crit RATE capped from dex/merits at 24%. Crit damage boost of 8% (trait) becomes 13%.

Crit @1.0 pdif+1 for crit. 1.13/1.08=4.63% damage boost when you crit which is only 24% of the time. 4.63*0.24= 1.11% total damage boost to melee. Pretty weak and pales to the ~4.5+ that DW alone gives, let alone the str/atk etc.

Inside abyssea (RR) @1.0 pdif
Crit rate now at 54%. Crit damage at 38% (42% with loki). 1.38/1.42=2.9% damage boost using loki. Only affects 54% of your melee hits, so 2.9*0.54=1.57% total DPS boost.

Toss in the 5 str on mirke and the TP gain from actually hitting more and it just stomps it BAD.

To be fair i was a little lazy and didnt give crits any extra weight in the total melee calc as the total crit damage is SLIGHTLY higher with the crit damage boost making it a slightly larger part of your total damage. But it is not going to triple-quadruple the effect, which is what you would need to to even match 3% DW, let alone the str/atk and extra TP.

Edited, Dec 13th 2010 2:36pm by Banalaty

thanks for the reply ^^

Something I was wondering, for the Mirke users, what augments are you using now? I was thinking of redoing my current virsion; the standard +3 dual weild / +10 acc. Lately with Rappidus, Raiders Boomerang, general dagger skill, i've found myself overflowing with acc. So, question is, what goes with the oblgatory +3 dual, of the options avaliable only the +10 att or the +3% crit hit rate really sex me up. Has anyone done any numbers or have any gut feelings about one vs. the other? I've found crits to be a huge source of my power lately, and there seem very few gear options for crit hit rate, unlike crit hit dmg now.

I'm also personally aiming for a 4/5 +2 set with Ballerines / Homam Feet for TP.

As more and more people finish their AF3+2, it'll eventually be a very good thing for us to try and find out, if possible, what the proc rate is on the AF3 set bonus.

Set bonus being: Occasionally triples the damage of the 2nd and 3rd hits of a triple-attack. Minimum requirement: 2 pieces equipped. Damage proc-rate increases as you equip more pieces.

I can attempt a preliminary estimate of how much the set bonus can increase our dmg.
If we're using Banalty's RAW POWAAA build (RR, Dark Depths, Alpha and Omega), /nin and we're lucky enough to have all of brutal, AF3+2 head, and Epona's Ring, Twilight Belt, and Atheling mantle, then unless I'm mistaken we'll have a total of 26% Triple Attack and 13% Double Attack. (100 - 13)*(1 + 0.26*2) + 13*2 = 158.24. A lot sexier than our pre-abyssea 124/100 hits. Out of hat, 100 will be a single attack, a first hit of a double attack, or a first hit of a triple attack. 13 will be the 2nd hit of a double attack. And 45.24 will be the 2nd and 3rd hit of a triple attack.

The 2nd and 3rd hits of our triple attacks will comprise 45.24/158.24 of all of our hits, or ~28.6%.

Therefore 28.6% of our total hits would have a chance of having their damage tripled. If equipping the full set caused the proc rate to be 50%, then the set bonus is raising our damage by (100 - 28.6) + 28.6*(3*0.5 + 1*0.5). Incidentally enough, equaling a 28.6% increase in damage.

So this formula can be used to check again for the damage increase when/if we find the proc rates of the Raider's set depending on how many pieces you have equipped. (100 - x) + x*(3*y + 1*[1 - y]), where 'x' is the "% of our total hits that are triple attacks" and 'y' is the "proc rate."

Knowing the % dmg contribution that the set bonus is giving us will help math geeks make future gear decisions. Such as Raider's hands vs Dusk+1, Raider's feet vs homam, or Full Raider's + Bullwhip/Twilight vs 3/5 Raider's + Nusku's, etc.

I didn't even notice I wrote trick instead of triple attack when I proofread that post. I fixed that just now. oops.

Edited, Dec 15th 2010 10:44am by Melphina

The added "subtle blow" (what are we calling the agl mod on that?) from the extra agl is so damn nice these days. I generally fight my own mob in exp alliances (hopefully 3-5 are being killed at a time), and rarely get more than 1 tp attack on me per mob.

I do use TA a lot by positioning the mob I am fighting so I can ta any random person even if they are fighting something else. I also thought the crit was less difference. And counter damage is no joke either. TA + counter can add up, and less tp moves may(like stun or para tp moves) or may not effect you. plus like 15 evasion difference between the 2? Idk, lots to consider.

Not that it really matters, I only really exp now to get to the next level cap. To few things to merit left, need them for random exps... Guess I need to finish off blm.