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#1 Oct 03 2010 at 6:27 PM Rating: Decent
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Since I was out of abyssea time I decided to test a new item: Qirmiz Tathlum, Attack+3 Increases critical hit damage.

Thankfully I had some recent SA numbers lying around.
lvl 85 thf/nin SA test without Qirmiz Tathlum:
STR 74 + 16
DEX 92 + 63 = 155
attack 457

All targets - Tiny Mandragora.

1. 1046
2. 996
3. 901
4. 1030
5. 1035
6. 1015
7. 1051
8. 925
9. 1050

high: 1051 low: 901 average: 1002,2

lvl 85 thf/nin SA test with Qirmiz Tathlum:
1. 1092
2. 1105
3. 997
4. 1110
5. 1087
6. 1110
7. 1036
8. 1028
9. 1080

high: 1110 low: 997 average: 1068,6

1110/1051 = 1.056 which is a 5.6% increase. So it probably is a 5% crit boost. I am pretty sure that beats bombcore/bomblet for solo SA, TA and anything with mandy stab, sharkbite in it. Probably want to use this for evisceration also. And you could even tp in it if you accuracy is (nearly) capped.

Unless you have a Raider's Boomerang, Accuracy +3 Enhances "Dual Wield" effect, Qirmiz Tathlum is a nice upgrade I think.
But then again I did not see any testing for Raider's Boomerang yet.

Edited, Oct 4th 2010 2:32am by Breaze
#2 Oct 03 2010 at 6:40 PM Rating: Decent
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Nice, didn't even see this item. I noticed the nm is a Soulflayer. Guess it's not thf/nin + healer duoable is it?
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#3 Oct 03 2010 at 6:48 PM Rating: Decent
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Yes it is from the Soulflayer Kadraeth the Hatespawn but I never fought him. I bought this item from the AH. I am currently working on rare/ex abyssea items and atma. So all my abyssea time goes towards that. I am always low on abyssea time.
#4 Oct 03 2010 at 6:55 PM Rating: Decent
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Casts ga spells that need to be stunned and that's about it. Bring a stun, paralyna and minimum amount of cures and you'll be fine. Doesn't cast ice spikes and I don't recall it using that aoe bio/blind move. Likes to spam the aoe full dispel(distance of 20.0), the single target paralyze move and the 'increase mab' move. THF as the solo DD can drop it in under 20. 2/6 on drops. I also agree to a 5% increase from playing around with it.
#5 Oct 04 2010 at 2:48 AM Rating: Good
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Seems nice for mercy stroke. So much good gear @_@

I might slow down my FFXIV and start playing XI again. I'm sure many of you have a good idea as to what you think of FFXIV at this point. I know if I slow down my crafting now though I'll totally lose my bear-claw foothold on the market, so I must continue.

As you said though, if boomerang is good, not much reason to use this.
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#6 Oct 04 2010 at 8:48 AM Rating: Good
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1110/1051 = 1.056 which is a 5.6% increase. So it probably is a 5% crit boost. I am pretty sure that beats bombcore/bomblet for solo SA, TA and anything with mandy stab, sharkbite in it.

Yes, this is the best ammo for critical based attacks single attacks, and it's been mentioned but Mercy Stroke and Rudra's Storm both fall in that category as well. I wouldn't know how to place it for evisceration against bomblet or core because I still haven't a solid idea how often evisc crits (especially with buffs like champions drink and etc) but w/e. I'm sure you could use it there just fine too. This is a very nice item.


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#7 Oct 05 2010 at 7:23 PM Rating: Good
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Did you check without vajyra?

Eh nvm. I dont think the "enhances SATA" thing would mess with it, and our 5% crit boost would actually make it 4.95 crit boost, but still a solid piece. Definately best for SATA+1hit WS. Evis id ahve to check some numbers, but i doubt it would be anythign but a sidegrade to bomb stuff.
5% more damage on crits. Estimating 10% WS based off previous (incomplete) thread+4% merits+5% base rate+dex(probably capped as 80 thf with good gear)=34% crit rate. 6hits=2 crits on avg. 5% of 1/3 of the WS=1.66% boost if atk is at 1.0 pdif for simplicity.

9atk should be ~1-1.5%ish boost by itself. 2str ~1%ish if Fstr boost on ws (100ish base damage), 0 if not. so ballpark .5% boost if Fstr not capped. Depending on atk/def/buffs and such it will be REALLLY close to a crit 5% by the looks of it.

If i had to make choice right now, I would SATA and SATA+big WS with it. I would solo Evis in whatever, but i might use tathlum for stacked SATAEvis due to the extra oomph of 1st big giant crit(so i would probably just leave it in for all evis. Sidegrade for solo evis, but potential for greater epeen shot. Nothing to loose, epeen to gain :P) SADE i would probably just use bomblet/core/thew. So....thinking use for everything but DE basically. (when not using thf-erang or Xbow)
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