Solo-friendly or Lowman Seal Droppers!Follow

Well, just as the title says. Please post your findings about solo-friendly/lowmanned seal droppers. Wiki seems a little behind when it comes to strategies, as I roam spamming quests for seals, I see dancers, ninjas and thieves or groups of BLMs RDMs and some PLDs doing NM's, but when I look up those NM's, not much information is found about them. So here is a place to collect the information. Will try to keep this updated.


Here is what I know so far:

Raider's Seal: Feet.
Quest: ...
Dropped from:

1. Armillaria { Abyssea - Vunkerl }
Comments: ...
Strategy: ...

2. Iktomi { Abyssea - Vunkerl }
Comments: ...
Strategy: ...

3. Iku-Turso { Abyssea - Vunkerl }
Comments: In my opinion, cannot be solo'ed/low manned. This thing spams Maestorm and BLM ga spells.
Strategy: ...

Raider's Seal: Legs.

Quest: Cookbook of Hope Restoring
Dropped from:

1. Athamas { Abyssea - Misareaux }
Comments: I'm going to quote Dowu on this.
Strategy:


2. Manohra { Abyssea - Misareaux }
Comments: I'm going to quote Melphina on this. Also:

Strategy:


3. Nehebkau { Abyssea - Misareaux }
Comments: I saw DNC/NIN repeatedly solo those.
Strategy: ...

Raider's Seal: Head.
Quest: Threadbare Tribulations
Dropped from:

1. Berstuk { Abyssea - Attohwa }
Comments: Quoting Breaze
Strategy:


2. Gieremund { Abyssea - Attohwa }
Comments: Quoting Breaze
Strategy:


3. Pallid Percy { Abyssea - Attohwa }
Comments: I saw a japanese THF85/NIN solo this. I have no idea how he avoided/interrupted GA spells. I attempted this at 83THF/NIN. I was doing pretty well until GA spam killed me. This thing has moderate accuracy, making an Evasion-equipped THF able to tank it well. 5-hit weaponskills do not interrupt GA's (it has very high fast cast), neither does Triple Attack (via job trait or Assassin's Charge).
Strategy: Low-manned as BLM/RDM and SCH/WHM. SCH keeps it paralyzed, and fight from max distance. BLM is in charge of dots and slow nukes. The only thing you must worry about is Mudstream, which will most likely kill you. Always Stoneskin/Blink up, if BLM has hate when Mudstream is used, immediately STUN while the SCH erases the BLM's bind, run away, then the SCH erases himself. Rinse, repeat. Slow, steady nukes. Your priority is dealing with Mudstream, other than that, easy fight.



Edit 1: Updated Athamas Strategy, Manohra comment, Berusk, Gieremund strategies.

Edited, Sep 24th 2010 12:20pm by Shaiamy

I was able to kill Athamas yesterday dual boxing a 85 thf/nin and 85 brd/whm. It's not a difficult fight as long as you erase slow and addle. Also, bring echo drops since it casts silencga. Having the martello and the bastion guy nearby for temp items helps if you run out of mp. The fight took me about 15 min, so I don't think it's the most efficient use of my traverser stones. As Melphina said, the Raven is probably the way to go for the thf leg seals, but if you're in a low man group, and Athamas is up, you might as well kill it.

Maybe elemental weaponskill weakness stops it from casting?



It's almost like SE purposly made it so that THF can't solo their head.


Naaaa, SE would never do something like that specifically to THF would they?

Edited, Sep 24th 2010 3:31am by Lobivopis

Today I farmed for AF3 feet with 3 people. We got war feet. Then I timed out. rdm decided to stay since he had capped lights. 10 min later time extension drop and to make matters worse thf feet dropped and I was stuck outside. Stupid 60 min cool down timer. Rdm does not have thf leveld so they dropped to the floor................................

After 60 min I renter and whm feet dropped.

Also did Gieremund (dog) again. This time with thf whm duo. He is so easy. Blind actually does land easy on him. Slow is also easy to land. Only paralyze is hard to land.

Dropped double war seal.............. My luck was awesome today.

Edited, Sep 25th 2010 1:20am by Breaze

I know it's not relevant to low man status, but I think this is the best thread to post this in so I'll put it here anyway.

I've been farming Manohra at my leisure and I'm sitting at 7/8 Raider's seal: legs. It's so nice when there's exp alliances killing Frigatebirds to supply you with limitless pop items as well as clear potential links . I've trio'd him with a rdm and cor as well as a dragoon and lvl 80 whm pair so he's really easy too. Anyway, once I finish my raider's culottes +1 I'll need 6 coins of balance to get the +2 version. Those drop in Abyssea Mixereaux from Amhuluk which can drop up to 3. Amhuluk also drops the Jewel of balance and between these two drops 10 of the 20 jobs are covered so he should be spammed pretty good in the coming month or two. Amhuluk also drops the Rapidus Sax so with that said... he's going to be in such high demand I don't think the Rapidus Sax should be too difficult to obtain. Just give it a month or two until people finish their +1 legs en-mass and The dragon will be at the forefront of most people's minds. This may change next update, but at least we got a break on this one. Sax should be far more common than leg coins and jewels.


Edited, Sep 27th 2010 12:15pm by Melphina

I don't know the drops and fight strategies for the VNM path in Abyssea - Misareaux but I do know the road up to Amhuluk
is extremely thf friendly.

Funereal Apkallu, Manohra and Asanbosam can all be duo'd with a thf mage combo. And if you give away one or more seals you can invite extra people for a faster more time efficient kill.

Getting an Amhuluk pop set should be easy even with a shout group.

If anybody has info on the VNM path in Abyssea - Misareaux I would appreciate it.

sorry for my 3rd post in a row. But I can confirm the info from BG.

I just killed Amhuluk with 5 members. thf rdm/nin whm whm blm. I tanked on thf most of the fight. He is really easy. Thf can abuse SA on this NM because it wont turn right away when you run behind it. Next time we should swap the rdm/nin for a mnk. DD work really well on this NM.

1/1 on sax.

The wiki info for Amhuluk is sort of accurate: http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Amhuluk

As tank I had all HP and buff abysites. Used Atma of the Stronghold: Attack+:Major, Defense+:Major, "Regen":Major
Atma of the Truthseeker: DEX+:Minor, Resist Dark+:Major, Weapon Skill Accuracy+:Minor.

There are better thf atma out there but work with what you have.

Run to pop area (tele 4). Buff up with shell 5/5 and aff. solace baraera. Pop NM and pull it down from the ledge. Mages stay on top of ledge. Mages on the ledge wil not get hit by AoE at all. The NM will be very close to mages but on that ledge you are 100% safe. Amhuluk will AoE dispel your buffs (this tp move is not listed on wiki). He can't dispel cruor buffs or atma. Mages can and should rebuff you from the top.

Tank Amhuluk with your back against the wall. He will use knock-back often. Run behind him for SA when needed. When I had hate I tanked in evasion gear. The NM is not very accurate. I used pizza +1 but I am pretty sure you can hit him easy with meat food also.

You can use Collaborator on your mages when you are down below even when they are on the ledge. Relevant members should bring echo drops.

Blm was there to stun ga4 and Tornado (AoE). Our blm nuked with ice when possible. No idea if thunder works.
I never saw Paralyze proc. Slow and blind never landed. Flash works and whm should use it when it is up.

Next time I would bring a mnk/war as co-tank and let him full time counterstance, berserk. /nin does not help a lot as there is so much AoE spam from the NM. And I am pretty sure the NM will be capping Pdif anyway so 1 def or 300 def won't matter a lot.

Edited, Sep 28th 2010 8:06pm by Breaze

The !! for atma drop is always triggered by an elemental WS, and it's different every time. Basically you make sure you have all your weapon types covered and then just try them all till you see the !! pop over the mobs head. (best to have someone who's job it is to watch for this)

There may be some pattern everyone is missing but for now this is what works.

Stacking the atmas of Voracious Violet and Stout Arm and having the attribute bonuses from the cruor prospector and the Abyssite of Furtherance will give you STR+110 DEX+20 AGI+20 Attack+50 Double Attack+10% and 2 tp/tick Regain.


Razed Ruin seems to be the only good DEX based atma (DEX: Superior, Crit hit rate: Major, Crit hit DMG: Major)


Edited, Sep 29th 2010 8:12am by Lobivopis

This is correct. But is missing a few things.

1. Relic Weapon skills wont trigger red !!
2. Mythic Weapon skills wont trigger red !!
3. Early Weapon Skills you get for your respective job wont trigger red !!(Wasp Sting, Fast Blade, etc...) Any weapon skill below level 40 skill for that matter.
4. Skill level 300 Weapon Skills wont trigger red !! (Aelion Edge, Tachi: Ageha, etc...)
5. The 'Lesser of Two' weapon skills will not trigger red !!
Cyclone does, Gust Slash does not
Red Lotus Blade does, Burning Blade does not
Energy Drain does, Energy Steal Does not
Freezebite Does, Frostbite Does not
Etc.

As you can see you can narrow it down by a lot. The list of weapon skills that do work is actually rather short:
Hand-to-Hand: --
Dagger: Cyclone|Energy Drain
Sword: Red Lotus Blade|Seraph Blade
GreatSword: Freezebite
Axe: --
GreatAxe: --
Scythe: Shadow of Death
Polearm: Raiden Thrust
Katana: Blade: Teki|Blade: To|Blade: Chi|Blade: Ei
GreatKatana: Tachi: Goten|Tachi: Kagero|Tachi: Jinpu|Tachi: Koki
Club: Seraph Strike
Staff: Earth Crusher|Sunburst
Archery: --
Marksmanship: --

Just bring an extra DD party with you when you are going after red !! Jobs that can use multiple weapon skills from this list are recommended.

Rumour 1: if a NM does a tp move while you do an elemental ws it wont trigger red !! You have to perform the elemental ws again to trigger the red !!
Rumour 2: If you do see a red !! by a an elemental ws, lets say Cyclone, and you keep spamming this ws to force more red !! it makes it less likely that the NM will drop its atma.

This is interesting stuff. Is this info coming from BG?

I'm just gonna come right out and say it. Thank you Breaze and Lobi, that was exactly what I was looking for. I rated you guys up for that.

Edited, Sep 29th 2010 4:54pm by Melphina

Thanks to all the people who've posted info
This definitely brings a lot of good news. I don't have the time to join huge LS that does events to get my AF3+2 pieces so I'm relying on lowman strats from the interwebs. Very good to hear that 6 people can farm things that are otherwise out of reach for the general public.

I agree with you Mirax. Two nights ago I finished my dragon pop set with an abyssea-mis linkshell run. We killed Ansobosam first and went on to kill raptors to farm leg seals. We fought Nehebaku several times and I had forgotten about the elemental weaponskill thing (nobody else was using them either so it slipped my mind). On one of our latter kills I remembered when he was at his final 5% HP. I had just built up tp but didn't have cyclone macroed so I quickly scrolled through my weaponskill menue to the bottom and ended up throwing out an Aeolian Edge. Since nobody had been using elemental weaponskills up to this point there had been no !! above his head but seconds after I threw out my Aeolian Edge he crumpled to the ground and we were rewarded with the Atma of the Rapid Reptilian! Everyone was shocked and people were going "woah, an atma". We're certain my Aeolian Edge triggered a red !! seconds before he went down so I can personally confirm that aeolian edge WILL trigger !! status. It's probably not the best anima, but it's nothing to scoff at either. I'll take an enhancement of Triple Attack Rate (minor). Does anyone have an idea how potent it is? Judging by how other atma scale from minor---> superior my best guess would be something like 5% for minor triple attack enhancement. Even if it is only 5% that's the same as 5 merits so that wouldn't be bad at all.

Edited, Oct 1st 2010 12:05pm by Melphina

Solo gieremund? I have my hat already, but interested in how you went about it. He has a TP move that dispels 1 buff (often utsusemi) and hits through shadows in the 800-1k range (in tp gear. In eva it seemed to "miss" some hits). Backwards kiting to outrange TP moves? Regen atma? He also likes to paralyze you, which is un-fun.

2x wind Kila +1 and evasion gear when needed. But with the evasion daggers I was able to idle in my TP gear a lot. Kept him paralyzed and blinded him frequently. Used pizza the first time (intimidated him quite a bit) and spaghetti carbonara the second for the HP boost.

That TP move you are referring to missed most of the time. The few times it did hit, HP restore items were more than enough to cover its damage.

I used an atma that had para resist: major. I'm not sure if that helped with potency but I did see Howling straight up miss me a few times too. When I did get paralyzed I would just idle in a max evasion set and spam cast ichi until it cast. Para was never really a problem though.


Edited, Oct 7th 2010 3:39pm by ThiefKiller

Hmm. Thats a good question. I didn't time it but it was probably somewhere in the 20 minute vacinity. Give or take.

I just saw this and I can confirm that it isn't true. I did several of these today with THF/NIN, COR/WHM and RDM/DRK as our only stunner and I interrupted him several times with DE and triple attacks/crits.

Edited, Oct 8th 2010 12:52am by ThiefKiller

I got hands from a Fish NM in Grauberg. Did with BLM, WHM, MNK, MNK, THF. Fairly easy fight, but usually does an T3 -ga spell followed immediately by a -ja spell. Strange fight though... we did about 10 total and there were a couple where he just didn't cast at all (making it an absolute joke of a fight). THF hands dropped fairly common, but finished DRG first. Could have been done with less, but we had the people so used them.

Also did Buffalo NM in Ulegrand... this guy is pretty easy but has a hate reset move so two tanks recommended. He Also has a ton of HP, so not the fastest fight out there. Seems to favor dropping DNC seals though. Did with same group as above, and also with slightly different set up (THF, MNK, BLM, BLU, WHM) and was generally easy unless he does back to back hate resets on the tanks. Colaborate comes in very hand though and even with minimal evasion gear (read pretty much none on my THF lol) and only 314 skill he missed a fair bit. With EVA set and capped skill he would be a joke.

Still wondering about good body seal droppers myself... I am 1/8 from doing Dominion...

I second the grauberg fish Ika Roa. Spent an afternoon dual boxing this with Thf/nin+Rdm/Whm and completed both my drg and thf hands. Shell5, Barwater, addle(more time to intterupt), Capped Para2 merits and 1HP atma covered me for most of his spells. If you can deal with his waterga/waterja then he is a pushover.

THF body seals drop from Shaula which is a complete pushover. It's just a normal scorpion* with a lot of HP and a blind aura. With Cloak and Dagger it can barely hit you at all and the blind aura won't affect you either. The only dangerous thing it can do to you is a badly timed Death Scissors that hits you with shadows down. Only problem is it needs 2 pop items one of which comes from an (extremely nasty) NM ladybug. Other than that though it is easily duoable and possibly soloable.

It drops THF WHM DRG RNG so it's not hard to convince a WHM to help you out in exchange for the WHM seals. BLM/WHM would be more than enough healing power and could also help with grellow.

*EDIT: Not completely normal actually, it uses Stasis (Death Scissors with paralyze and enmity reset) It can be blocked by shadows like regular Death Scissors. It also has a Slow proc on it's attacks (not 100%) which will overwrite Haste.

Edited, Jan 6th 2011 6:54am by Lobivopis

Actually did Shaula last night to try and get some seals. Super easy fight, but the NM was being a jerk with the grellow proc. had everything except BLU and 3/4 kills needed BLU proc (he is super easy to land spells on too, my poorly leveled BRD was able to land every threnody with no resist). after about 25 minutes of fighting, I left with one Raider's seal (2/10 now lol) but confident that I can haul some friends off to kill him with ease. I am pretty sure I could have my wife solo him on DNC... it would just take forever.

Vadleany (Ladybug NM) is kind of annoying. You need pizza (while in evasion setup) to hit it. It does a nuke then Spiral Burst. So you can out run Spiral burst if you wanted to. Range of it is rather long.
Wiki is correct when it says Spiral Burst: Random and potent AOE with damage ranging anywhere from 400-7000. Damage varies according to how many enfeebles have been applied to the NM.
Just dont enfeeble it and you will be fine. Keep bararea up.

Having said all this we bought most of the Vadleany Fluid (pop item) from the AH. It was dirt cheap at 15k a pop.


Edited, Jan 7th 2011 4:24am by Breaze

I had Atma of the Cloak and Dagger, RR and VV and I still needed pizza to hit it in my normal TP set.



Edited, Jan 7th 2011 2:26am by Lobivopis

wut?