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#1 Sep 14 2010 at 10:12 PM Rating: Good
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Kirschy, haste researcher and math master, found the values for it and posted the results recently in this thread.

Apparently on lucky roll, it decreases delay by 11.3%. On 11, it's 12.1%.

I'd log on and check myself, but I'm feeling AWOL atm. Can anyone confirm if this stacks cumulatively with dual wield?

If it does, 90Thf/Nin at a hypothetical 43%DW (assuming auric, mirke, and 5% boomerang if it is so), stands to gain a DPS increase of ~24.7% upon a lucky blitzer's roll. Combine that with AF3 if one is so lucky, and Thf's newfound ease of hitting the equip haste cap, and Thf/Nin in a Brd+Cor party begins to look mighty tasty.

Consider ridiculous amount of triple attack on AF3 and +accuracy being given in copious quantities to recent equip, allowing ease of capped hit rate as well. Thf/Nin's hits/time will hit unprecedented heights. I feel that a well equipped thief stands to be very powerful. But this of course poses the problem that newfound TP gain will lead to a lot of unstacking, and the higher DPS will render SA/TA less important. Not to mention if people aren't doing it now, they should consider free SA/TA'ing in more haste & DW equipment.

Anyway, nerdgasm aside, I still don't know if this compounds with DW -delay. Does anyone know?

Edited, Sep 15th 2010 4:16am by Shamaya
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#2 Sep 15 2010 at 8:18 AM Rating: Good
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I have been wondering this myself. So far we have been unable to "stack" any delay reduction because they are mutually exclusive (DW and sword strap) or is a 'haste' a la hasso/spells/desperate blows etc. All we know from precedent is Delay reduction (DW/Sword straps) dont synergize with haste.

I am very curious about this as well since (as most of us here know :P) delay reduction also lowers TP gain, but in low delay situations (dagger DW GO!) it will actually increase TP/time significantly for us as well.

This may be the 1st 'accidental' buff to thf and nin (and now dnc) to finally counter the 'accidental' collateral damage to those jobs from nerfing the TP floor ages ago.

need moar data! How does it work! I must know!
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#3 Sep 15 2010 at 7:58 PM Rating: Good
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Actually I bet it doesn't either. Only reason why I bother to post about stuff and not get in game and play with it is because I have way too much free time at work, hah.

I got all ippity skippity about Yonin/Innin and look what happened. Then I too got the hard on for lvl83 DW. Maybe getting overeager is a bad thing.
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