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#1 Sep 03 2010 at 6:24 AM Rating: Decent
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Hi all, decided to come back for a little bit after taking 6 months or so off. Just out of curiosity, I checked the AH prices for Blau Dolch, and they seem to have dropped a ton since I was on last (and just enough for me to buy one).

My question is, is this dagger still a good one to use? I have no idea what the level cap raise has brought us, and I haven't yet purchased any of the new expansions (not sure if I want to yet or not), but is there a reason that the price might have dropped?
#2 Sep 03 2010 at 6:30 AM Rating: Decent
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And while I have some other questions: are the mini-expansions worth buying for armor for thief use? It's been a while since I've read up on what augments you can put on them, but it's head, body, and pants armor, right?

I'm not sure where I might fit it in. I have turban raparee harness, and bravo's subligar for haste, and optical hat and SH for accuracy. I suppose I could replace those items with the others augmented similarly but with extra stats?

Or are the bought items feasible for a good WS/SATA set? I don't plan on any abjurations or limbus/nyzul/etc gear at the moment.

Thanks for reading to my rambling if anyone makes it this far.
#3 Sep 03 2010 at 6:58 AM Rating: Decent
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I think the reason the Blau Dolch tanked is because the trial of the magians daggers. I'm not a thief, and I don't know much about thief gear, but magian weapons tend to be solid. They also get stronger every time the level cap goes up if you're willing to put in the time to upgrade them.

As for the rest I have no idea.

Edited, Sep 3rd 2010 9:00am by Ahrana
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#4 Sep 03 2010 at 7:54 AM Rating: Good
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Blau is kinda ok but its not one of the best any more. Or even in the top 5 for that matter.

I would say certainly pick it up while you are working on fire/thunder/multi attack magian trials. Those are probably going to be the top dawg daggers unless they add anything better this update.

Edited, Sep 3rd 2010 9:56am by ThiefKiller
#5 Sep 03 2010 at 9:06 AM Rating: Good
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I currently main-hand an Auric Dagger with the 2-3x off-hand for general tomfoolery where ACC from a possible Lightning Path dagger isn't really needed. In the event I find myself in a situation where the multi-hitter might not be prudent, I swap it with the STP Fusetto. Though, that's also a situation where slogging through the lightning trials probably gains some merit. Just can't bring myself to willingly mess with Qutrubs and the like, though, let alone under specific conditions.

Also been working on the stronger 2x dagger, but Verthandi can bite me. For me, part of the multi-hit appeal has also made /DNC more viable, nevermind added WS potential if you don't quite need the healing. Really, the options boil down to whether or not you want to hit harder (STR or DEX) or more often (2x or 2-3x, Auric offering DW boost).
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#6 Sep 03 2010 at 10:03 AM Rating: Decent
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Blau is definitely the lazy mans dagger atm. It's not /too/ far behind with the 80 cap weapons, but will almost certainly fall further and further behind as the cap increases. At 85 cap it will be likely be distinctly sub par and by 90 cap it will likely be more or less trash.

That said, as long as we're stuck wielding a thief's knife, I don't really know that it matters what we put in the other hand, our damage is going to be terrible.
#7 Sep 03 2010 at 10:34 AM Rating: Good
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It is a respectable offhand right now. For example, a fast one to get from magian (relative to others) is STP fusetto. Fusetto/Blau is an entirely functional and good dagger combo. I am thinking of that combo as the new "baseline" for daggers. Alternatively Auric/Blau is in the same overall boat.

But once you commit to almost any of the magian trials, blau falls behind a little. Come Sept 8th and lv 85 cap and further magian trials, blau will be pretty much dead by comparison.

Short version: Blau is a holdover now until you can get almost any 2 of the new daggers (Auric or magian Kila/Paraz/Fusetto). Its an ok offhand until you finish your second dagger.
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#8 Sep 03 2010 at 10:39 AM Rating: Decent
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In your situation, I would buy a blau for now, and get some friends to kill you a Cuelebre for Auric dagger. It's a high drop rate / relatively easy fight if you have some magic DD to throw at it.

Once you upgrade any other DD magian dagger (stp, multi-attack, fire kila, thunder kila) re-sell the blau.
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#9 Sep 10 2010 at 11:28 PM Rating: Default
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I main hand the Fusetto (Evis build) and off hand the blau. The latent still works off hand, and though the delay is a tad higher than sirocco, it has higher damage and if your subbing dnc, you don't have to worry about wind damage hitting instead of drain daze. I think it's decent, but I'll probably switch it out later for a ToM dagger.

As for gear, it has kinda changed. SH works good for TP as always, but the Mirke Wardecors from ACP is better when you can wear it IMO. Notable augs for thf I think would be, Acc +10, Eva +10, Crit. Hit rate +3%, Attack +10, "Store TP"+4 & "Subtle Blow"+4, and Dual Wield effect +3%. Ranged Acc and Attack might be notable too, but I can't be sure. When you can get them, the aurore set is good for haste.

This is what I use for tp.

This is what I use for SA.

This is what I use for evasion.

This is just an example of what thfs might use. Gear differs from person to person, and with more updates coming out, it might continue to change so do some research and see which you prefer. I hope this helped :3

Edited, Sep 11th 2010 12:49am by Setsuai
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