ASA Pants re-doFollow

So I currrently have ASA pants as 7acc/3Haste for Drg+Pld. However, with the intro of perle legs as a better acc piece for evasive targets, and homam still an excellent choice for 3% haste, ASA are kinda stuck in the middle making them very situational (Need more acc than homam, but less than perle=situational middleground).

So long story short, I am thinking about re-doing ASA. But for what job? And what augs?

So to lay out my legs for thf:
Homam(Utsu)
Skadi (TP/Ranged)
Heca+1 (SA/WS)
War Brais+1 (TA/lolEva)
(And i have Skadi boots for movement, so dont need the 8% movement option)

Now I also "plan" to get Ocelot pants at some point down the road (Acc6, haste4%, eva 10). So ASA as an eva or eva/haste(utsu) piece are pretty moot. I dont want to redo them again when i get that piece basically.

So what can I do with them in the thf arena? The best I could think of really was Crit damage+3%, atk+7, (dex/agi+2) for a new solo TA piece replacing my war brais+1.

Is there anything else worth turning them into?
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Following is more for my own calcs:
Currently using D39+(121Agi*1.15)=39+139=178 damage.
ASA would put me at D39+(118*1.15)=39+135=174*1.03%.

But with crit damage trait of 5%, looking at:
War Brais+1: 178*1.05=186.9
ASA Atk/Crit: 174*1.08=187.9

That turns out to a measly 0.5-0.6% increase......eeeew not nearly as outstanding as i would have imagined. There is still the 7atk to consider which ballpark i guess wold be another ~1% increase as it is a crit attack. But I guess bewteen the 15% bonus to agi, and the minor decreasing return from our new crit JA, its not as big of a boost as I had thought it would be.

/shrug. I would like to think there is SOMETHING better i can make with these besides ~1% boost to solo TA. Thats REALLY tiny in the grand scheme since its only for a single action ><

Maybe I will just make them into haste/DA pants for drg when acc is capped :S

Edited, Jul 12th 2010 10:35am by Banalaty

Barrage+1/RACC+7

With OPs given jobs and current leg gear, I would go with this.

I'd use it for DNC so I'd go with movement speed and reduced CW costs easily. For your jobs I'd augment the pair for RNG with ranged accuracy and barrage.

Edited, Jul 12th 2010 5:19pm by Jevilwolf

I've got this problem as well. Well I suppose a lot of people do.
There's also the issue of tumbler trunks. So that replaces ASA for SA. I suppose I wasn't so sure if they would beat ASA for TA. Tumblers are better than War Brais +1 for TA, even with AF+1. It's got to be really close, and I wouldn't be surprised if Tumblers beat ASA for TA as well. Either way, they'd be so close that since I am going to buy tumblers, it's kind of silly to have my ASA pants just for TA even if they were like ~0.1% better. Actually, I'd probably be worse off because I'd have less inventory space to work with.

3%Haste 7evasion, or 7eva -4phys look great. But of course, these can be replaced by other pieces as well (like ocelot). I pretty much pour everything into my thief, so I might actually get the 4m.acc or 4m.atk for thf/cor (that I might never use) over a piece for my brd or rng. If I ever do ASA again.

I am assuming those comparisons are still based on your speed/damage model for SA/TA you did some time back, otherwise heca would beat tumblers every time (or you dont have heca sub which i assumed you would by this point).

While were on TA legs, I am still waiting for a nice piece of TA legs. SE has left this one specific use pretty weak for many moons now. Id really like a serious piece for leg TA. Stick 5agi on tumbler and call it a day :P 5agi just seems bleh when we consider our gear selection for other slots or even other actions(SA/WS etc). We have access to 6agi boots now off leaping larry, but still stuck with 5agi legs? Bleh.

I think ill just leave my 7acc/3haste on my blitzers for drg/pld and just be overkill acc with 3% haste until we get another update or 2. Drg is in a wierd place because it has obscene acc available at lv 80 My TP set with 21% haste has ~419 acc(functionally 439 with level correction to 80). My 'acc set' with 17% haste has 468 acc now. With GEAR ONLY (Funcctionally 488 with level correction). Thats 488 acc eating MEAT..CRAYZEEE! (and i have a 3rd set in between) Oh and dont forget hasso+10.....My drg in acc gear is fighting stuff as if i were a 75 with 498 acc.......on meat....jesus. My head still esplodes when i think about it. Obscene. If i REALLY wanted to, I could put on Virtuoso belt insted of Vbelt for a (functional) 510 acc eating meat. Its just wrong.

Anyway, more on topic, you can see why im considering redoing ASA. Possibly as 3% haste, 2% DA augs for drg. Heaven knows i dont need the acc right now. (Hopefully by 99 mobs will be a little tougher)

But most of the mobs/events are still designed for 75. I imagine there will be a slew of things added designed to challenge lv 99s, but until then i suspect the next few updates will be "transitional" with a little new content added as we level to hold us over, Saving the new, more expansive 'endgame' to really get kicked off at lv 99. I probably will be enjoying acc overkill until then.

Im guessing it will just be relegated to movement8%, -4% phy damage and just use them as ghetto Wlegs on pld and travel gear for drg :S But ill hold off till we see whats in the pipes.

Homam/Skadi/Heca+1/War+1 Should tide me over till ocelot rears its head. Not much to do with ASA for now.

Edited, Jul 13th 2010 11:06am by Banalaty

Tumblers do look great, and so easy to get. Tigers are a bit of a pushover with good -na support, and the NM just smapms roar and uses aoe amnesia. Plus the trousers have quite the job selection i think, unlike heca.

You making it sound as if SE actually has an idea how there own game works. It is a scary thought I know.

Just regarding ASA vs Tumblers for SA/TA, just based on guess-estimation, I'd say Tumblers are a decent bit above ASA for SA, but ASA are significantly above Tumblers for TA.