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#1 Jul 03 2010 at 11:24 AM Rating: Decent
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i'm sure i'm not the first to think of this, but since the new OAT dagger has a new name, we should be able to dual wield the 31d athame with the attack 2-3 time parazonium. huge pain in the ***, yes, but i can see this combo having quite a bit of potential.
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#2 Jul 03 2010 at 12:29 PM Rating: Good
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One of them will have to be gimped (if it works). Both OAT and OA2-3x are both athame>Paraz upgrades. The final version of both are the paraz. Theoretically you could have one of them behind on the athame stage and the other complete. Or could even have the OAT Paraz+ OAT Athame (or do the same for the OA2-3x). But 1 will have to be in the previous and weaker dagger form.

Edit: Nvm i see you already noticed that. Could still be a fun combo but with D40+ daggers around D31 is looking really meh for a main hand.

Edited, Jul 3rd 2010 2:32pm by Banalaty
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#3 Jul 03 2010 at 9:44 PM Rating: Good
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I didn't think about this till now either. Someone who wants to have both daggers in some form or another should be careful when upgrading. It would seem to me that unless they give the two separate daggers different names later on, you'll always have to keep one of them weaker while the other one is fully upgraded. And due to not being able to have two daggers with the same name and marked 'rare', this would mean that you would never be able to have the weaker surpass the stronger; never change later on which one you'd like to be able to have as your strongest multi-attack offhand.
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#4 Jul 04 2010 at 2:42 AM Rating: Decent
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I thought some where on earth that some body posted the test that having DW 2 occ. atk 2 to 3 times does not gain TP any faster than single off hand occ. atk 2 to 3 times?
Or I was just dreaming all the time while reading forum?! ><
#5 Jul 04 2010 at 7:47 AM Rating: Decent
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Anybody with Vajra, M kris, Justice sword, ridill will tell you that when you equip two multihit weapons you will gain tp faster. Then when you equip one multihit weapon. Exception might be the Kraken club. But I leave that to the experts.

Whether or not two multihit weapons are good for damage is a different question.

The athame + parazonium combo is nice to mess around with but I would not use this setup when you have other daggers with good DPS and additional stats.
#6 Jul 04 2010 at 10:37 PM Rating: Good
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I mentioned in the other thread that it looks like someone tested the 2-3x on magian weapons, and they attack 1.7 times on average. As with the 1-2x weapon's 45% double proc, these rates are lower than people would want :(
Chichi I believe that is true for Kclub single vs solo wield. But the max amount of hits per round is 8. If you wield two 2-3x weapons, the most attacks you can get per round is 6.
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#7 Jul 05 2010 at 12:06 AM Rating: Good
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The testing, while not extensive, is sound method considering the data we have to work with (its the best conclusion we can get givin the limited and kick attack flawed data).

I was already edging towards righting the 2-3x dagger off, but this just seals the deal for me in the rudimntary # crunching ive run on them so far. I am becoming more and more confident in my choice for 1-2xPara (ultimately paired with twashtar, but thats gonna be....a while xD).

Though I am wondering what dagger setup ill use for the long interum. Blau/Para? Kartika(pre-twash)/Para? Para/Sirocco? I am loathe to loose my blau, but after completeing the Feurenke trial making kartika D38/201 (and soon D39 with next trial) I am wondering wtf im going to wear in limbo between the old best and chasing the new best daggers. Much thought needed on this. Kartica/Athame is sounding rather nice for the in-between time.
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