So this thread is more about Trials. There's the Kila vs Twashtar thread.
I just want to talk about which weapon combinations are currently the best and how close or far they are from one another. But I don't want to make a new thread.
I've been working on a new way (mathematical model) of comparing weapon combinations or DPS in general for thief. However, after many hours of brainstorming, researching new stuff, and calculating, I found that I cannot use what I came up with to produce any answers; it just doesn't work. It's just a step in the direction of maybe
producing a better model. A better model than what? Than this,
Golden-Standard of Basic Dmg Comparisons
DPS = [(Melee Dmg->100TP)+WS-DMG] / (Time->100TP + jaPause)
This equation is actually pretty crude when applied to thief. For most other jobs, it works just fine. But when SA/TA come into play, especially when you start introducing other weaponskills into the mix like mercy stroke, it becomes much more complicated. And This formula I feel is too crude to really give us truly accurate comparisons. I'd love something better, but as far as I know there isn't really anything.
Settings used here were a level 80Mithra Thf/Nin with 5Str merits. Buffs being Marinara Pizza+1, Minuet4, Victory March, and haste spell. A TP set and an SA+WS set were chosen according to the "best gear-set list" brainstorming thread. I arbitrarily chose to use a colibri+1 as the enemy, with an arbitrary chosen 350def, 69vit, 69agi, at level 88.
I calculated tp/round, tp/sec, ws dmg, etc, etc. But it's just not shown here. For "ja pause", I used what we learned from the Dnc testing thread some months back.
What I got was,
[1098.3+1376.5] / (20.833.. + 3) =
(961.6 + 1364.7) / (19.417 + 3) =
I really don't think I did the math wrong. But of course I don't swear by this model anymore. As you can see Twashtar and Parazonium are roughly equal Mandau offhands by this model. Yet Parazonium only has 2 more base dmg and +1 more max fStr than the previous Athame, and we'd pretty much concluded that it was above S.Kukri, but inferior to Blau.
And I don't think people are really debating Twashtar being possibly worse than Blau. So if these numbers are correct and Parazonium came out equal as a Mandau offhand...
Of course, this is just for Mandau.
In my personal opinion, I think the tp gain of parazonium is understated. Meaning I think it should be better than shown here. Yet in my new model that I used, where I assumed 75% engage time and 25% wait time in between battles, the twashtar combo actually came ahead by 3%. I don't think this is because twashtar was just plain better, I think it's just cuz the model failed.
If anyone wants, I can post the many other lines of calculations in wordpad that supplement what you see up there. Or post the other model I was talking about. I'm gonna work on looking at some other combinations, but I don't think I'll write anything without Mandau in it.