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#1 Jun 22 2010 at 12:23 AM Rating: Good
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Fking around with it...shares timer with Steal:

uses Despoil
steals a Beehive Chip
*um...whast the debuff...did it not even work?*
miss
miss
miss
Bee's Evasion Down effect wears off, about 90 seconds later.
*wait on recast*
uses Despoil
fails to steal from the Bee.
miss
miss
miss
*2 1/2 min later, no debuff wear off message*

#2 Jun 22 2010 at 12:31 AM Rating: Good
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Crap we need to give a new JA to THF. um, Steal II I suppose.
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I thought of it first:

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=10&mid=130073657654872218#20
#3 Jun 22 2010 at 1:39 AM Rating: Excellent
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Not even Steal II, we'll give it a shared timer wih Steal!

Awesome, now I can choose between a Debuff or Dispel every 5 minutes!!

Although I'll say Evasion down buff is pretty cool! Now we have an eva down proc that's likely worse than feint on a timer over twice as long that shares a timer with an unresistable dispel (aura steal)!

That's awesome dude

Edited, Jun 22nd 2010 7:43am by Noodles
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#4 Jun 22 2010 at 2:50 AM Rating: Decent
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Although I'll say Evasion down buff is pretty cool! Now we have an eva down proc that's likely worse than feint on a timer over twice as long that shares a timer with an unresistable dispel (aura steal)!

That's awesome dude


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#5 Jun 22 2010 at 6:38 AM Rating: Good
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I can die happy now. SE gave me what I've always wanted.
#6 Jun 22 2010 at 7:55 AM Rating: Excellent
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Can we replace Steal on our macro bars with this? Does Aura Steal work with Despoil or is this strictly limited to item steals?

I'm wondering if we can just totally replace this and leave the lower one for people with /THF instead of main.
#7 Jun 22 2010 at 9:41 AM Rating: Excellent
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I...can't belive they ACTUALLY made is share a timer with steal....I.....wtf.
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#8 Jun 22 2010 at 10:57 AM Rating: Decent
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Archain wrote:
Can we replace Steal on our macro bars with this? Does Aura Steal work with Despoil or is this strictly limited to item steals?

I'm wondering if we can just totally replace this and leave the lower one for people with /THF instead of main.

I'm not sure, I just wanted to see the debuff effect, I'll try despoiling mobs with buffs when I can.
#9 Jun 22 2010 at 10:59 AM Rating: Excellent
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I...can't belive they ACTUALLY made is share a timer with steal....I.....wtf.



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#10 Jun 22 2010 at 1:53 PM Rating: Decent
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You were expecting maybe something that made thf better on hard monsters? We got Cyclone 2 and steal 2! how many other jobs can say they got an awesome update?
#11 Jun 22 2010 at 2:19 PM Rating: Excellent
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flowerpot wrote:
You were expecting maybe something that made thf better on hard monsters? We got Cyclone 2 and steal 2! how many other jobs can say they got an awesome update?


Waiting to find out that Critical hit attack bonus is ATT x1.1 for THF and ATT x1.5 for WAR



Edited, Jun 22nd 2010 5:20pm by Lobivopis
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I thought of it first:

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=10&mid=130073657654872218#20
#12 Jun 22 2010 at 2:43 PM Rating: Default
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I am actually thinking BRD came out better with reduced critical damage taken or whatever...

Thanks for absolutely nothing SE... just further pushes me to level DRG before THF... even though during exp last night I think I saw conserve TP kick in 4 times on over 100 WS...

Why would SE put this on the same timer as Steal? I was really hoping it could be useful for those situations where you know you will steal something useless (I'm looking at you skeletons... yes I totally wanted that bone chip instead of your ice spikes...) and then you could seal the useless thing with Dispoil and get the buff with aurasteal.

So much for that idea...
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#13 Jun 22 2010 at 4:48 PM Rating: Default
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I am actually thinking BRD came out better with reduced critical damage taken or whatever...

Thanks for absolutely nothing SE... just further pushes me to level DRG before THF... even though during exp last night I think I saw conserve TP kick in 4 times on over 100 WS...

Why would SE put this on the same timer as Steal? I was really hoping it could be useful for those situations where you know you will steal something useless (I'm looking at you skeletons... yes I totally wanted that bone chip instead of your ice spikes...) and then you could seal the useless thing with Dispoil and get the buff with aurasteal.

So much for that idea...


Aura Steal checks before items.
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I thought of it first:

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=10&mid=130073657654872218#20
#14 Jun 22 2010 at 4:54 PM Rating: Good
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#15 Jun 22 2010 at 6:02 PM Rating: Decent
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Lobivopis wrote:
Aura Steal checks before items.

Wrong. You can steal items from mobs that have buffs.
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#16 Jun 22 2010 at 6:55 PM Rating: Decent
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redvenomweb wrote:
Lobivopis wrote:
Aura Steal checks before items.

Wrong. You can steal items from mobs that have buffs.

You can also Dispel buffs from mobs that drop things.
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#17 Jun 22 2010 at 7:23 PM Rating: Decent
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But only if you fail to steal the item.
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#18 Jun 22 2010 at 8:33 PM Rating: Good
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Noodles wrote:
redvenomweb wrote:
Lobivopis wrote:
Aura Steal checks before items.

Wrong. You can steal items from mobs that have buffs.

You can also Dispel buffs from mobs that drop things.

But if Aura Steal checked before items, then it would be impossible to steal an item from a mob that has a buff unless Aura Steal failed. And Aura Steal's failure rate is in the single-digit range (if not low single-digits); the only mob that I've seen it fail on consistently is Dynamis ahriman.
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#19 Jun 23 2010 at 8:19 PM Rating: Good
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As "meh" as this ability appears to be, we may as well start noting it's effects.

Thus far I've seen

Magic defense down.
"disease" (hoping this is plague, but no idea)
Evasion down.
Defense down.

If we've got the ability, we may as well try to figure it out. Though it would really help if we could see the debuff *as it lands* not after it wears.

edit: I've landed a debuff without stealing an item, but it seems to be rare. Evey time I've stolen an item, a debuff landed.

Edited, Jun 23rd 2010 7:59pm by Wolfhart

Edited, Jun 24th 2010 7:29am by Wolfhart
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#20 Jun 24 2010 at 5:51 AM Rating: Decent
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Add Def Down to the list. Lasted 27 seconds. There's no message it's applied, only when it wears off.
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#21 Jun 24 2010 at 7:38 AM Rating: Excellent
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Steal definitely attempts to steal an item first. If that succeeds, Aura Steal won't kick in.

Try fighting skeletons for a coffer key in Eldieme... you will get frustrated at how often you fail to remove Ice Spikes because you just had to yoink that worthless bone chip instead.

As for Despoil, if we can't even tell how the mob's been enfeebled until it wears off, it's going to be pretty **** hard to take advantage of it...
#22 Jun 24 2010 at 11:35 AM Rating: Decent
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Fynlar wrote:
As for Despoil, if it shares a recast timer with steal, rarely kicks in unless you successfully steal an item, and we can't even tell how the mob's been enfeebled until it wears off, it's going to be pretty **** hard to take advantage of it...an insult of a new JA.


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I don't even know how to articulate my disgust with this garbage.
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#23 Jun 24 2010 at 5:41 PM Rating: Excellent
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I havn't seen it mentioned yet, but they did apperantly put in new steal tabels with Despoil. Skilling up on yag's in Castle Oz (s) i stole a plate of Sole Sushi from a Yagudo Flagellant and stared at the screen for quite a while. From the same yag mnk mob i also stole Roast Carp, and Roast Pipira. sooo, there's that.
#24 Jun 24 2010 at 6:20 PM Rating: Good
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I havn't seen it mentioned yet, but they did apperantly put in new steal tabels with Despoil. Skilling up on yag's in Castle Oz (s) i stole a plate of Sole Sushi from a Yagudo Flagellant and stared at the screen for quite a while. From the same yag mnk mob i also stole Roast Carp, and Roast Pipira. sooo, there's that.


That's funny. Maybe for once we'll get to steal useful stuff from more than just a few mobs we rarely fight (maybe inside abyssea?). As it is steal is largely a waste of time because you rarely fight anything with stealable stuff of value. Of course it's probably just wishful thinking. But you never know.

Edited, Jun 24th 2010 8:37pm by Melphina
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#25 Jun 24 2010 at 7:30 PM Rating: Good
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Steals items from an enemy while inflicting a status ailment upon it.
Shares recast timer with Steal AND sets timer for Collaborator/Accomplice.


I just read this on the wiki. PLEASE someone tell me it isn't true?
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#26 Jun 24 2010 at 10:17 PM Rating: Good
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It isn't true Thief. The recast plugin for some reason denotes "Despoil" as "Collaborator"

Our collaborator timers aren't reset, just steal/despoil.
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