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#1 Sep 08 2009 at 6:20 PM Rating: Decent
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Greetings,

Long time lurker, first time poster in THF forums.

I've only recently returned to WoWFFXI and after a month of levelling several different jobs I decided to start up my THF again and had a few questions. (FYI it's L40 right now).

Gear setup/selection (i'm mostly following the guide in ffxipedia)
1.) +dex for SA gears, +agi for TA gears, priority on dex otherwise agi for sata gears correct?
2.) I have spare merits to throw into dagger combat skills and was wondering whats the MAX I can merit to get DE earlier than 60? I believe +2 will allow me to get it at 59 and +4 = L58 but how many can I use that early? max of 5 I think?

10-20 = 1
20-30 = 2
30-40 = 3
40-50 = 4
50-55 = 5
55-60 = 6?

unsure... /think.
3.) bravo's subligar, 200k-240k price tag on Caitsith, I lack access to the coast to camp the NM so isit worth buying @47 and how long will it last me? considering I do not have skadi's either.
4.) blau dolch i understand is pretty much a must-have for main or off-hand and is around 2M on Caitsith, should i bother with question 3.) if I should save for blau dolch first?
5.) THF invites seems to be the same as when I left the game back in '07 does this improve at 50-60? or after I get DE? how bad isit at 75 and merits? or do people still simply throw SAMs & DRGs at everything that is bird or mamool...?

ok that was more than 1 question in 5.
6.) any other important NMs I may have missed that is important 40+? and should I bother with them early or wait til my THF is almost at that level. I like to ding into awesomeness :D

Thank you for reading.
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#2 Sep 09 2009 at 1:06 AM Rating: Decent
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Don't bother with Bravo's subligar if you don't have other haste piece.
Also there's no point to put hast on those earlier level without cap your acc (understand close enough > 85%+ hit rate).
First priority for TP, push your Acc to 85% hit rate or more. Then push Atk as far as possible keeping high hit rate.

For merit bonus per level it is :
http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Merit#Effects_of_Raised_Attributes
So you can get DE at Lv57 (with +6 merit into dagger skill).

Blau is must have yes. You want to be a serious THF, try to focus on it at some point.

Edit : but there's viable alternative while gathering a way to get it.
Cheap solution : Magnet Knife, the Gravity effect proc often and remember that's also a -10 evasion debuff on the mobs that helps everyone in your party/alliance.
Other viable Solution : Behemoth Knife (+1), Harpe, Ermine's Tail (if you're lucky with MMM).
Never bother to use Heart Snatcher. Don't even thing about.
Edit end

THF even with his hate management role is still a DD among a lot of other one. And also require a better gameplay & gearwise to be "good". No real solution here. Make your own party, and/or make your name known.


Edited, Sep 9th 2009 2:49pm by Neraya

Edited, Sep 9th 2009 4:29pm by Neraya
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#3 Sep 09 2009 at 5:08 AM Rating: Good
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**** setup/selection (i'm mostly following the guide in ffxipedia)
1.) +dex for SA gears, +agi for TA gears, priority on dex otherwise agi for sata gears correct? [/quote]

Close. During SATA and SATA Viper Bite, AGL and DEX are equally important. They will both add the same amount to your base damage. So which ever armor piece you can pack the most of either stat is priority.

For example Af legs with 4 AGL > Noct Legs with 2 Dex. Pieces like empress hairpin and bounding boots that have 3 of each in one slot would have a total value of 6 (nothing beats them for sata for a long time).

If you are splitting TA and SA, then yes, pure AGL for TA and Pure Dex for SA. But its really ineffective to split Pre-60 when you get assassin (save in a few party situations where people are just being really uncooperative).

In my oppion, Bravo's Subligar is not worth a slot until you can pack on enough haste (20+% gear/15% mage/20% brd/10% dnc) to make it outperform other options. I still use them in high haste situations and for shadow recast macros. But I wouldn't use them at the level you can use them.

If you are choosing between then 2. Save up for a Blau. It's probably the biggest upgrade a THF can make for damage.

AS far as invites go, pink squishy birdies allow us to be competitive DD's (if you are good). If you make conscious efforts to maximize your gear sets and use them intelligently, you will do great in merits. You likely won't out parse top tier "heavier" dd's that put forth equal effort, but contrary to popular belief these top tier players are not raining from the heavens. And who gives a **** If you are being outparsed by a crazy SAM, the merits are probably rolling in. Bottom line, you are in no way a waste of a DD slot. And Feint every 2 minutes is hotness.

The barrier you will face is perception, at times cooperation (and maybe a bit of a learning curve), but not potential and ability.
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#4 Sep 09 2009 at 5:44 AM Rating: Decent
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Thanks for the replies guys,

The main reason why I asked about Bravo's it's because it seems to be the only decent leg piece between 25 and 72-73? :( I'm using republics subs right now and seems like i'll be using them forever at this rate lol!

The invites have been pretty poor though its not from bad perception it seems to be lack of seekers / people forming parties so i tend to take the initiative and make my own level sync PT in east ron [s] awesome times.

Well sounds like it's settled, I'll save for Blau Dolch, forget the Bravo's and merit some dagger skill. Other than that gonna exp hardcore! In a party right now as I'm typing. Dual screen ftw!



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Others(20+): NIN75,WAR75,SAM75,MNK43,DRK42,SCH32,WHM28,BRD26

#5 Sep 10 2009 at 8:03 PM Rating: Decent
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I'd say bravo's is still a good option. Maybe on it's own with absolutely no haste otherwise, it's garbageesque. But if you have a swift belt and/or situational rapp harness, I'd say it should still be good pre-75's, especially if you're getting hasted. Considering Republic Subligar is essentially the next best option in the mid ranges, I'm not sure this could be written off as far-fetched, lol.
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#6 Sep 10 2009 at 10:32 PM Rating: Good
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I still use it... \-_-'

But working on homam now so yay! :)
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#7 Sep 11 2009 at 8:06 PM Rating: Decent
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I decided to buy it anyway as I am more than likely changing servers shortly (today maybe?) as my linkshell buddies have all gone to Ragnarok and their a/h prices are higher for the Bravo's but lower for everything else I need to buy :D

Atm I'm just TPing in Bravo's and swapping in Republic's for WS/SATA working well thus far I must say. I cannot wait for Assassin though!
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#8 Sep 11 2009 at 10:15 PM Rating: Decent
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Asura's the way to go. Tho I suppose if your m8's are goin to Rag, there's no choice. Come get on the raaaggg (that's what those silly Ragnarokans say, anyway)
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