A greater colibri has 334/339 Evasion. Naked I have 285 Dagger skill and 108 H2H.
Checking Coli, needs 349 to con Low Eva (80.5%) (Dagger, Ohat/PCC/Homam Feet/Homam hands/Swift Belt). (Swapping Feet to Sniper's Ring checks neutral)
This is interesting in it's self, As with -24 through level correction, you should need 358 for 75% Acc right? (And thus 369 for 80.5%)? If that's right then Why does the mob check Low Eva with 20 acc less than that? Have I made a mistake somewhere?
Well, let's try and get back to the test. If feint is -50%, then the coli will have 167 Evasion, and I will need 175 Acc +12 (as feint lowers evasion, not evasion and level, so the lvl correction remains the same), or 187 Acc.
My H2H is 108, 80DEX, acc naked is 148. so +40Acc should make the mob con Low Evasion.
SH, PCC, OHat, Homam Hands/Feet should be enough. I will use life belt too, which will put me +10 over that.
So with this gear, empty handed with feint up, the same checked colibri should con low evasion. Even if I have made a mistake in the math, it will still con neutral evasion, I can't be that far off. Let's test.
Applying Feint, empty handed, with SA. 108 Skill, 80Dex and +50 Acc in gear exactly (10more than I should need)
:53 Feint applied
:54 Neutral Evasion
:48 Neutral Evasion
:03 Neutral Evasion
:06 High Evasion
:22 Feint wears off
So let's try gearing for the High Evasion threashold, the same colibri. If I need 187 Acc for 80.5%, I will need 145 for 59.5%, so, I should get check neutral completely naked. let's test with +20 Acc.
:18 Feint applied
:20 Neutral Evasion
:23 High Evasion
A second test, This time I will equip a lone sniper's ring and no other acc gear. This is to counter any lag between the initial hit and the first check.
On the same mob:
:35 Neutral Evasion
:37 High Evasion
This is interesting, whilst it seems I do innitially turn the mob to neutral evasion, which supports a -50% evasion boost. It seems I jump from neutral to high evasion at the same speed in both cases, even though I have 20acc more in the first instance.
Once more, completely naked (now with 110 skill, skillup ftl), feint (applied through SA in every instance):
:09 High Evasion
:11 High Evasion
This is such a much more bodge job that I had hoped for, so I'm going to spoiler all the above and post the following, which is concise enough. Theres a 5acc difference between it innitially conning neutral eva or not.
With feint up, Lv81 colibri
150 Acc (110 skill, 80 dex) = low evasion
155 Acc (+sniper) = neutral evasion
We know hit rate: When Player_Acc = Mob_Eva, Hit rate= 75% +(mob_level/2)%
Let's say 155 Acc gives 60% hit rate on a mob 6 levels above the player. Then 185 Acc will give 75%, meaning the mob wlll habe 185-24 Evasion, or 161 Evasion. (That correct?)
That means feint is giving either static -170 Eva, OR 52% decrease. The latter being more likely.
My numbers may be off, and I'm still confused as to why the mob checks Low Eva 20acc lower than it should in the innitial dagger test, but it does seem that feint gives a reduction of 50% eva.
However, what confuses me is whilst my Neutral-Low tests seemed to prove this, my high-neutral tests did not at all. Maybe I did not check fast enough originally? Repeated again, using more acc than should be required to con low evasion, and it still never conned high evasion.
I'm lost. This is such a bodged post, but hey. I tried.
Edit: I'm also confused why all our ridill drks can't hit **** without madrigal AND feint. NQ madrigal is enough, but without mad compltely they are useless.
Edited, Aug 29th 2009 12:32am by Noodles
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