The "What THFs want from SE" ThreadFollow

ive been in some situations where i have ran out of a couple stack of bolts and had none left cause i forgot 2 restock... so yeah thats my bad but w/e.

and thats not even really my point i just dont understand why its MP steal and MP drain there is no need for 2 WS that do the exact same thing....just some BS IMO

um.... rdm dagger and sword skill are the same.

Say hello to:

Shining Strike + Seraph Strike
Frostbite + Freezebite
Thunder Thrust + Raiden Thrust
Dark Harvest + Shadow of Death
StarBurst + SunBurst
Burning Blade + Red Lotus Blade
etc.

There are also a bunch of weapon skills that are just aoe versions of the other ws.

Edited, Apr 19th 2009 1:33am by Deadgye

Well you got me there i havent been playing long only about a month and a half so i havent really experimented with other jobs... so i was just kinda =( when i heard that there is 2 WS that i will never use in a while...



hmm...how long does the MP that you "steal" last i would rofl if i was just crewing around before i got a pt inv and had like a sh*t load of MP and make the mages in the pt question stuff

Apologies for the bump, but I've always wanted it to be the case that the only conditions for which SA/TA as buffs go down is when they've been successfully executed. IE if we fire off our SA and the mob decides to turn at the last moment, our attack lands but the SA buff stays up until we have eventually done a successful attack from behind.

I don't think this would be an unreasonable or even complicated adjustment to the game, and would be a corrective improvement to our DPS.

Strider/Trotter boots + sprinter's shoes = +24.5% movement speed increase for an hour (Chocobo Jig is 25%). At least THF has something to outrun mobs of normal speed, while the only thing a DNC has for movement speed increase in gear is a nation aketon. I know Trotter/strider boots isn't in many's possession, so perhaps to "fix" Flee is to have another piece of gear other than feet that increases its duration to stack on with our AF feet. I would kill for that.

nvm its too overpowered

Edited, Jun 26th 2009 11:01pm by EvilTedy

DNC has all the tools it needs to run away from a mob using choco jig.

DNC can shadowstich or that Grav flourish a mob, quickly turn and run. Use jig with a visible gear swap (dont they get an AF for jigs anyway?) to go.

Sure its a little harder than flee and go, but DNC can do it far more often, if that matters lol.

This Thf wants the Eye removed from Omega's loot pool.

I didn't read everyone post word for word, so if its been said....read it again.

I agree with the A+ Dagger skill.

And...

More triple attack gear. A WAR can stack on +25% or so double attack. We have what? +3% triple attack? Hell, there is more double attack gear for a THF than there is triple attack.

This is the last piece I need for 5/5, no one else in my LS wants it (obviously), and it's dropped once in 6 months, on which I lost lot. I must be the only person in the world who *wants* Eye to drop, lol.

Still quite a fresh THF, but I do have a few things on my wishlist.

- An update to Perfect Dodge. Firstly, the ability to dodge RANGED attacks. Secondly, an enhancement to Sneak/Trick attack usage. An additional 50% DEX bonus to SA or 50% AGI to TA (effectively 1 Dex/Agi = 1.5 base damage bonus). Firing PD should also reset the timers for both.

- Steal upgraded with the ability to steal certain drop items (non NM mobs). For example, stealing silk thread from crawlers or boyahada moss from goobbues. Obviously only doable once per mob, but nothing too lucrative should be made easily stolen.

- Accuracy Bonus trait at level 30, Accuracy Bonus II at 50. SA/TA might be 100% acc, but this helps overall DoT for those all-important weaponskills.

Anyway, that's my 2 cents. Maybe I'll have some input on the merit abilities once I get that high :)

If you're going to give THF another A rank weapon make it staff. For one thing it's a 2H weapon that sort of makes sense for a THF to use, and secondly Judgment has the same attack bonus as Gekko and an 2.0 - 3.0 fTP. Not to mention Full Swing having a maximum fTP of 5.0

Edited, Aug 9th 2009 8:11pm by Lobivopis

Just curious, I never use this ws when using daggers (merits+love) and unfortunately can't justify dagger use on rdm since Joyeuse + Death Blossom. What would an endgame rdm use this lackluster ws for... I am never out of mp, and when I am, I wouldn't be meleeing.

My wish for thief is something like "Shadow step" ala third-eye that confuses/negates damage so we can get rid of /nin.

Also, AOE hate-drain on 3min timer.

I have an idea (for some time now, actually) that wouldn't actually effect the quality of Very VERY good THFs, but could help along those that either don't have perfect timing nor apps that keep good track of SA and TA.

I think SA and TA should get one charge, at first it seems broken to be able to SA and then SA again, but overall, fighting second by second never stopping, it still comes down to just doing one SA or TA per minute, nothing more.

Where does this help THFs? Well, we lose precious seconds from human error and lag, and positioning. If we have just ONE charge on each, we could take full advantage of meriting SA or TA, and wouldn't have to worry about postponing SA or TAWS by 5 seconds for some reason (Skill chain, positioning, mob almost dead, whatever).

It'll also help the lesser THFs who don't have perfect timing (and who does?) to still keep optimum one-SA-per-minute (or TA), but it also won't really make THF much more powerful, just able to exploit fully.

What do you think? Probably won't happen, but, I didn't think they'd ever add a charge system, and then along came SCH and COR's updates, I guess my idea got through SOMEhow.

1h and 2h weapons had the same rating (A) up until NIN (and Dual Wield) were implemented. It was at this point that Squenix gave 2h weapons a higher skill rating than 1h, presumably to make up for the lack of potential DW benefits.

The sole exception to this rule is PLD, who is not a DD and was ostensibly not considered to be competition for the 2h DDs.