[/quote]Sneak attack, Trick attack and their nasty WS that can be stacked with them cause a LOT of damage. I don't believe thieves can ever do as much as a dark knight or dragoon but what about samurai
yes that uber dmg is only once a minute,wile a drk,sam and drg can do good dmg every single hit,while the thief is hitting for crap.
You'd be wrong. Most DRG, DRK, and SAM don't play to their fullest I've seen. And those that do, only match good thieves. Friend dinged to 49 today and used penta-thrust with Beserk. (We were on a Rumble Crawler) He did 386 damage with his AF lance. I fired up Sneak+Trick+Viper Bite and did 497. Most our DRK could do by burning Beserk, Souleater, and Last Resort with her WS was 410. Didn't have a SAM on hand, but I know a 56 SAM Elvaan, and he still idolizes thief damage.
eh so what? thats once a minute,i dont see any thiefs hitting for 100 dmg a hit,do you?
Dancing edge doesnt hit 5 times to get 4k dmg...dont know where you get that. Dancing edge like Viper Bite is a damage multiplier. Instead of 2x dmg Viper Bite does, Dancing Edge does 4x dmg for about 1200dmg stacked with sneak and trick.
dancing edge does hit 5times,well unless you miss.
I have the impression you have never seen guillotine used or maybe only seen it used on zero-xp newbie critters. It sucks. It never hits. It's damage is pathetic. Not only that, but in general, I'd say DRK is probably the worst of the damage jobs. They pretty much have no renkei at all. They have horribly slow TP generation. And their damage output is lower than all the others. What DRK does have is large numbers with each hit when they do manage to hit. That's not the same as a high total damage over the entire fight, though. Depending on level, a THF will be doing up to 70% of the damage to the critter, though 40% is more typical. If you don't need escape, for instance, you can get a 2nd THF instead of a BLM and extend your chains.
yes lets all listen to the non drk about a WS he never used before. yes it does hit, its dmg can be arround 450-500 without any buffs and if you think that dmg is crap then your a crazy. drk's can renkei with almost anything useing a greatsword. if the drk's you group with never hit then you must still be in the low lv's,or there just to cheap to buy equipment. a thf will be doing 70% of the dmg to mob? dude are you jokeing? there crap normal dmg and there uber dmg every minute does not=70% of the dmg on a mob,thats more like 20%. also what idoit in his right mind would pick a second thief over a blm?
OH and yes, samurai do get the same pentathrust that dragoon get only they have penta and meditate about 8 levels earlier than a dragoon does - and those are 8 long levels ^^
drg's get penta at lv 49 samurais get penta at lv 51 or was it 52. i dont see how a sam could get penta before a drg since sam has a b in polearms and drg has a A+ in polearms.
Rangers are nice, but remember what I said about renkei? Rangers miss on weaponskills moderately often. That ruins renkei. For a melee damager job other than THF, I'd rank their desirability like this: mnk, drg, sam, war. Poor drk's don't even make my list. I'll take a rng if if that's all that's there. I'd rather not invite the drk. Better to wait for a real damager or a friend. Friendship outweighs job (yeah, I have drk friends, pity me :).
dude its hard to belive you even play this game,with all the bad info you give. i cant beilive you'd rather have a drg,sam,war(i just cant beilive this one),mnk over a ranger. i highly doubt you grouped with a drk.
Hmmm. One more general comment on the entire topic of "which job is best." It doesn't really matter all that much. There are roles that need filling by every group, but ultimately, what people look for is any job that can fill that role. If the selection is between a thf, drk, and sam, for instance, the group will probably take the the player they know best. The only time job matters is when you have no friends. If you're 50+ and living off random pickup groups with strangers that snag you for your job alone, I pity you.[quote]