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#1 Apr 21 2013 at 7:51 AM Rating: Good
What is a good support job for a WHM?
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#2 Apr 21 2013 at 9:51 PM Rating: Decent
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/RDM or /SCH mainly

/BLM has some utility use, but as far as sheer healing power goes it's not as good as the other two
#3 Apr 24 2013 at 4:35 PM Rating: Excellent
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Are we speaking about at Lv99, or while leveling up? I'm assuming 99.

/RDM is a good starter sub, but once you get decent gear and get in the habit of casting the correct-sized Cure/Curaga for the job, /SCH becomes massively more efficient.

The deciding factor I tend to use is that if you're a serious healer, use /SCH. If your WHM doesn't get much attention and just needs to be a no-brain curebot, use /RDM. The reason you see a lot of WHM's using /RDM these days is because so many WHMs are just alts, and not main characters. It's just a healer someone totes around to keep themselves alive, and for that, /RDM works very nicely.
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#4 May 02 2013 at 7:28 PM Rating: Good
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The deciding factor I tend to use is that if you're a serious healer, use /SCH. If your WHM doesn't get much attention and just needs to be a no-brain curebot, use /RDM. The reason you see a lot of WHM's using /RDM these days is because so many WHMs are just alts, and not main characters. It's just a healer someone totes around to keep themselves alive, and for that, /RDM works very nicely.


For me, /RDM usually gets used for having easily accessed Sleeps and Dispel, even when I'm not using it as an alt.

Having to pop a couple JAs (assuming you have a stratagem ready, too) for spells that you really want to fire as soon as possible makes /SCH too cumbersome for my liking a lot of the time.

Another big factor is whether or not you can Aspir whatever it is you're fighting.
#5 May 05 2013 at 6:49 AM Rating: Decent
I am currently level 20 with my WHM and I want to keep it as Main. I was looking at going RDM as my sub but I want to make sure it is the right subjob. What spells should I have for my WHM? There seems to be alot of spells that I do not use right now. Thank you for the help.
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#6 May 20 2013 at 11:25 AM Rating: Good
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As for sj at 20, your best choices are /blm and /sch. /rdm doesn't come into its own until post 75 really, but it wouldn't be bad to get it to 50 so you don't have to worry about it later.

And yeah, there are spells as a 99 whm I rarely use myself. All the cura spells are not used very much, for instance; I'd recommend though that you get your debuffs (for if you ever play another mage job so you can have them already), all elemental bar spells (Save your money and get the status ones when you got extra gil; they are not always that useful), all nas or status remover spells (this includes Sacrifice tho that don't come into its own before the higher levels btw. Esuna is also one you should get, it is a ga status remover for when you got it on you too), regens, haste, cures (this includes the curagas, don't worry about the cura series so much), protectra/shellras (Get the single target ones when you get extra money; they are not used as much but I find them handy for when Stupid Puller runs when you let'er rip) sneak/invis (Don't worry about Deodorize unless you get it as a drop, that I swear is more for the classic "YOU STINK!" joke; aka casting it on someone and saying they need a bath), the stat raisers (Most impt one is str imo, so get that first) Flash (I rarely use this now, rusty but it can help), Repose (good for oh shii situations, again not one used much but when you need it you REALLY need it), raises (I won't yell at any whm without Arise but get them up to R3, and save for Arise), teleports(Don't buy these. Work up your fame and quest them), blink/stoneskin (for when you're getting beaten up or have a chance of getting beaten up) and Auspice (I need to use this more, it really helps.)

Anything else is more for complete imo; get the missing ones when you got money to spare. I think that about covers it. ^^
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#7 May 23 2013 at 6:45 PM Rating: Decent
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All the cura spells are not used very much,


Which makes me sad; Cura is awesome ;;

Anything that uses frequent light-moderate AoEs can be potentially cleaned up using Misery + Curas + a decent haste/FC set (because admittedly, recasts on the Cura spells kinda suck) for possibly *no* MP spent and little enmity gained, depending on how many party members are being hit + how much you're actually curing for, if you've got the AF3+2 pants.
#8 May 24 2013 at 8:35 AM Rating: Good
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Gotcha fy. I just tend not to flip flop between misery and solace very much, so cura never did much for me. Tho I do use the AF3+2 pants ^^
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#9 Jun 24 2013 at 1:01 AM Rating: Excellent
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All the cura spells are not used very much,


Which makes me sad; Cura is awesome ;;

Anything that uses frequent light-moderate AoEs can be potentially cleaned up using Misery + Curas + a decent haste/FC set (because admittedly, recasts on the Cura spells kinda suck) for possibly *no* MP spent and little enmity gained, depending on how many party members are being hit + how much you're actually curing for, if you've got the AF3+2 pants.


For most of the big things that White Mages are being used for nowadays, there's not a lot of "light-moderate" AoE damage anymore. That and the Stoneskin from Solace for single target cures is just too good in a lot of situations nowadays to warrant jumping back and forth between Misery and Solace imo.
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#10 Jun 24 2013 at 9:57 AM Rating: Excellent
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yeah I don't see any point to misery. It is way too situational.

If you're serious about being a whm you should have at least /RDM and /SCH leveled. If you're (like me) just an occasional -help out your LS in a jam- whm, one or the other will suffice.

/BLM is nice for leveling because then you can just warp yourself home after level 34.

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#11 Jun 28 2013 at 7:43 AM Rating: Good
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I think the advice in the post above this is good. Ultimately, /SCH wins but /RDM is decent. I have yet to find a situation where I have needed or wanted /RDM.
#12 Jun 29 2013 at 1:38 AM Rating: Decent
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Cura obviously isn't gonna be useful in serious content where people are in danger of being 1-shotted, but it has its places nonetheless.

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I have yet to find a situation where I have needed or wanted /RDM.


For me that's every situation where I've wanted extra (or simply dark-based) Sleeps or Dispels, which for me at least is very often.

Having to use Dark Arts and Addendum: Black to use those is way too cumbersome; those are spells you usually want readily available when you have to use them.
#13 Jul 01 2013 at 7:55 AM Rating: Good
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Hi Fyn,
In what situations? Not saying you're wrong, it's true that it's a pain to dark arts > add Black for dispel but how often are you doing something without either a brd, rdm,sch or cor where dispel is game changing? Genuinely have not seen a need for it in lowman or 18 man events. I enfeeble, I buff, I heal, I remove debuffs and I proc. Once in a blue moon (once every 6 months or so) I'll Dark Arts for Add: Black and Dispel because someone else has dc'd or something or we're super low manning Abyssea.
#14 Aug 11 2013 at 10:21 AM Rating: Decent
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but how often are you doing something without either a brd, rdm,sch or cor where dispel is game changing?


Very, very often. If I'm WHM I'm often the only mage in the group. I've done a lot of dual boxing as well, in which case it's usually a melee + WHM. Obviously this happens less in alliance events, but I rarely alliance for things outside of Delve

This wouldn't have been the case way back in early 75-era (when RDMs were chosen over WHMs solely for their ability to sustain MP), but since then WHMs have gained a whole lot of staying power and are now generally expected to be able to handle themselves without needing a RDM or BRD.

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