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#1 Oct 26 2010 at 3:58 AM Rating: Good
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Is it me or is the WHM forum generally quieter than most others these days? I realise the game is slowing down a bit but there's still WHM stuff going on... People seem hesitant to post.
#2 Oct 26 2010 at 5:12 AM Rating: Good
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It is quieter, but..... Your reason is wrong. The forum is quieter due to all the WHMs being in Abyssea curebombing the masses...
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#3 Oct 26 2010 at 1:06 PM Rating: Good
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Well, I don't post in the whm forums much anymore. I'm not even sure what to post anymore other then the AF3+2 gear is nice.

We could talk about atma combos. Right now I'm missing minikin, which usually forces me to use Windy heavens and ambition. If I had minikin it would free me up to use either voracious violet or razed ruin for general xp, while I could use minikin and allure (or ambition) in NM fights. I'm pretty meh on the rest of the atma when playing whm, although I do enjoy collecting them.

I would like to see what I could do as whm DD with razed ruin and voracious violet. I'm sure it would still be lol, but I think I could raise a few eyebrows if I started tossing out 1.5k hexa's consistently. Too bad none of the new gear supports whm melee, I'm using the same setup that I was at 75.

Other then that I still prefer /sch as a subjob, although I do see the appeal of /rdm. I still see some people /blm but I don't understand why. I still <3 esuna when I can use it, and cura II has been nice. The boost spells have been meh for me. I want another banish or holy spell. I hope the af3 hands and feet are wicked neato.

Can't think of anything else right now. More random musings later?
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#4 Oct 26 2010 at 2:51 PM Rating: Decent
Personally I love cura II as a random tidbit from this update. Made my whm happy. I am waiting to get atma of the beyond to see what kind of flash novas I can produce with it too.:D

Anyone got data on dagan?
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#5 Oct 26 2010 at 4:53 PM Rating: Good
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I stopped playing due to college, so I got nothing new to contribute :x

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#6 Oct 26 2010 at 6:37 PM Rating: Good
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I'm kind of hoping Dagan is a nice WS for those Ohsh*t moments. Because im thinking of working towards a canne de combat and hopefully its a good WS <.<;
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#7 Oct 27 2010 at 12:04 PM Rating: Good
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For lack of anything better to add, I think I finally decided on my "ultimate" cure set. I've decided Roundel Earring is probably the way to go (hope this doesn't further drive up prices). Here's my logic, there are a few no-brainer pieces in terms of cure potency:

Surya's Staff +1 obviously wins weapon department.
Orison Cape obviously wins back department.
Orison Cap +2 obviously wins head department.
Aristocrat's Coat obviously wins body department.

The total potency from these four pieces is 45%. This means you need another 5% potency to hit the cap. There are several ways to accomplish this:

Serpentes Cuffs & Sabots
Roundel Earring
Tatsumaki Sitagomoro
Augur's Gloves + Fylgja Torque

Now consider the opportunity costs here (listing relevant stats only):
Serpentes Cuffs & Sabots:
Cure+5%
Blessed Mitts +1 & Marduk's Crackows:
MND+18 Enmity-8 Haste+6%

Roundel Earring:
Cure+5%
Novia Earring:
Enmity-7
Magnetic Earring:
CMP+5 Interrupt-8%

Tatsumaki Sitagomoro:
MND+2 Cure+5% Enmity-4
Orison Pantaloons +2:
MND+7 Converts HP cured to MP +5%

Augur's Gloves & Fylgja Torque:
MND+7 Cure+5% Healing+5 Enmity-2
Blessed Mitts +1 & Ajari Bead Necklace:
MND+14 Enmity-4 Haste+6%

I think the most obvious loser here are the ASA pants. The MP recovery aspect of Orison Pantaloons is invaluable, there's no way I'd give this up. The Serpentes set also seems like a clear loser, their only useful stat is the cure potency and they take up two very nice slots.

Really it comes down to what you'd rather give up: Enmity-7 (Novia), CMP+5 (Magnetic), or MND+7 Enmity-2 Haste+6 (Blessed Mitts +1 & Ajari Bead). I chose Enmity-7, especially in light of the fact that I spend so much time in Abyssea lately and Atma of the Minikin Monstrosity gives Enmity-30 which is basically all you need anyway, so any enmity down from equipment is just gravy. This puts my final "ultimate" cure set at:
http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/184524
Cure Potency +50%
MND +49
VIT +3
Healing Skill +10
Enmity -15
Conserve MP +13
Haste +6%
Converts 5% of HP cured to MP

Seems a little low on the haste side, but everything else is awesome. I might consider swapping Austerity Belt for a haste belt... especially with MP also seeming endless in Abyssea... thoughts?

Is it time to build different equipment sets based on whether we're inside or outside Abyssea? I could see using Austerity Belt outside Abyssea & Swift Belt inside Abyssea...
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#8 Oct 27 2010 at 12:26 PM Rating: Excellent
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What is this outside of abyssea you speak of?
#9 Oct 28 2010 at 2:54 AM Rating: Good
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There is no 'outside' of abyssea anymore. I completely understand why but man am I getting a bit burnt out. I went through the same calculations Perg but I ended up sticking with my roundel. Mostly cos I have it and I love my Novia. Just got Carabosse's Atma though so not sure its as relevant. I have a +1 hat so far, we aim to start on the +2s soon. If we can only work out a half decent way to agree on distribution.

It's embarrassing how slowly my healing magic is going up... I feel like I did when I first dinged 75! I need to skill up my club though, at around 260, I'm not sure where to go for it.

Anyone recapped enhancing? Mine is getting close because of RDM. Wondering what the latest 'epeen' barspell is...
#10 Oct 28 2010 at 9:37 AM Rating: Good
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I have mixed feelings about Carabosse atma. I really like the Refresh+10 from Minikin, and I really like the Fast Cast and additional Refresh from Ambition. I don't run out of MP anymore on /SCH no matter what I'm doing, although I've dipped about 1/2 to 2/3 into it before so I hesitate to drop one of my two Refresh atma even if it brings my Max MP up. Perhaps Carabosse is better if you're on /RDM since it would probably give you better Convert ratio. I could see that being pretty useful. Until we get a Refresh Superior atma, I probably won't use Carabosse on WHM/SCH very much.

Also, regarding that Novia you're using... consider that if you combine Carabosse + Minikin which I assume is what you're doing, that's Enmity -60 right there. Already 10 points over the cap.

As far as skill, I'm right there with you :( I'm not capped on any of the four main ones yet. Fortunately, Light Arts makes that mostly moot. With Light Arts up, I think my barspells give about 140 right now.

Edited, Oct 28th 2010 8:39am by Pergatory
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#11 Oct 28 2010 at 5:13 PM Rating: Good
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eldelphia wrote:
I need to skill up my club though, at around 260, I'm not sure where to go for it.
Mt. Zhayolm has crabs that'll check T at 85.
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#12 Oct 29 2010 at 5:22 AM Rating: Good
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Pergatory wrote:
I have mixed feelings about Carabosse atma. I really like the Refresh+10 from Minikin, and I really like the Fast Cast and additional Refresh from Ambition. I don't run out of MP anymore on /SCH no matter what I'm doing, although I've dipped about 1/2 to 2/3 into it before so I hesitate to drop one of my two Refresh atma even if it brings my Max MP up. Perhaps Carabosse is better if you're on /RDM since it would probably give you better Convert ratio. I could see that being pretty useful. Until we get a Refresh Superior atma, I probably won't use Carabosse on WHM/SCH very much.

Also, regarding that Novia you're using... consider that if you combine Carabosse + Minikin which I assume is what you're doing, that's Enmity -60 right there. Already 10 points over the cap.

As far as skill, I'm right there with you :( I'm not capped on any of the four main ones yet. Fortunately, Light Arts makes that mostly moot. With Light Arts up, I think my barspells give about 140 right now.



Don't have Minikin yet, although it's on the to-do list. Issue is for us right now, how to deal with +2 items in a mixed timezone shell and no one can agree... so we've avoided popping NMs as a group. Should be sorted this week I hope.

I think I agree with you on the combo. I hate missing out on the fastcast/movementspeed/refresh combo of Ambition. I tried out the Allure Atma and I missed the fast cast/fresh a lot. Of course when we finally go beat up all the bosses we've been finally farming pops for, I'll have another abyssite to play with. Allure is nice for RDM or even SCH. I'd use it until I got something better to pair Ambition with or pair it with MM or something.

Of course Novia becomes pointless inside abyssea when you can reach the -ENM cap without it. I still a fair amount of crap outside Abyssea though :) I will end up (as you mentioned) building two sets of equip I think.

I think Enfeebling and Elemental are capped on my RDM and BLM, or very close to. Enhancing isn't far off. I think my major issues are Divine and Healing :( I hate feeling like a noob.

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Oh! Thanks for this.



Edited, Oct 29th 2010 7:24am by eldelphia
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