Flash worth it on HNM?Follow

I have found that Flash's effectiveness on most HNM, and even many run of the mill NMs that don't really deserve to be called HNM, is greatly diminished; it typically doesn't even last for more than one attack round, oftentimes they will still hit with this attack round anyway, and assuming enough Slow is piled on the mob it might not even last that long if you don't time your Flash correctly.

If I'm casting Flash on something and I find the above behaviors coming into play, I usually stop casting it, unless for some reason I want to pull hate.



sh*t's situational

Flash is still very useful even on HNMs, but more situational. The important thing to remember is that it doesn't just reduce the burden of healing, but also prevents the tank from losing enmity if they are hit. So Flash costing about the same as Cure II, even if it doesn't prevent a full Cure II's worth of damage (which one swing on an HNM generally will), it will also help the tank keep their enmity high so it can still be a good trade-off.

Basically my use of Flash is dictated by how much trouble the tank is having. If they are /NIN and having trouble keeping shadows up, or some other sub and getting the poo beat out of them, then I'll Flash as often as I can without stepping on their Flashes. This helps them keep their enmity high by helping them to avoid damage, and also reduces healing costs.

With the equipment out there nowadays, quite often though a PLD can tank almost entirely self-sufficient even on many HNMs. They require very little healing, and can do most of it themselves. In this case, I scale back my Flash usage, because them getting hit a little bit can actually help them build hate. If a PLD takes 200 damage and then Cures themself for 200, they end up with more enmity than they started with. So if the PLD is self-reliant, I tend to only Flash when it's obvious that it would help. For example if they're casting Ichi is always a nice time.

As for Devotion, WHM & PLD are great targets. I'll tend to prefer the PLD, but you also have to be careful of Chivalry. I can't count the number of times I've used Devotion at the same time the PLD used Chivalry and resulted in one of the two being wasted. Really, though, it's situational. Whoever can benefit most, use your best judgment.

Flash on HNM's should first and foremost be used to help the tanks. If, for example, a tank is using /NIN sub and need to recast utsu, flashing during his cast can be beneficial to prevent him from getting interrupted. After, for example, a AoE move that just wiped his shadows.

Careful about flashing before your PLDs. Pretty sure it doesn't make a difference as far as enmity generation for the mob...but it generates enmity from the PLD to you <_<

PLDs hate puppets T_T

Honestly don't take WHM to that many end game events, but flashbulb from puppet lasted decently long for an attack round or two. Granted, your tanks probably aren't evading either way, but it potentially can prevent an interruption or a critical/DA/TA hit so if hate isn't an issue, there's little reason not to toss it out.

Wait a minute, there are some serious mind boggglers here. I'm not a whm, but I AM a PLD.

1) Flashing an HNM should not be done by a whm, you will have a hasted PLD or 2 Tank hasted and they should have no troubles flashing. I you are in fact flashing, you're wasting mp.

2)

Thats about the most retarded thing i've ever heard, flashing does not transfer hate from one to another. regardless of whether flash takes effect or not the enmity is still generated.

3)Devotion vs chivalry/convert: This is where good communication skills come into play. As a tank, when i know i am burning up MP and i am running low, i will ask or tell the whm in my pt when it would be a good time to use devotion, or tell them not to. Communicate.

4)

On regular mobs that may work for you, but on HNM, that is NOT a ver smart way to play things. If i am getting the sh*t kicked out of me, then that means i am losing massive hate, if you are flashing, youre generating spikes of volatile enmity, and eventually, that HNM is going to come looking for that juicy ball of mp that used to be the whm curing me.

5)

Paladin: Divine magic B+ 256 skill @ 75
White mage: Divine magic A- 269 skill @ 75

10 Times? not really.

actually i didnt, i woke up about 3 mins before i read this, brain not quite functioning. But after good shower and a coffee, HAHA thats rich!

And no i'm not forgetting food and/or hq staff.

The simple truth of the matter is, on really mean stuff, flash doesnt generally stop the beastie from hitting the tank. It's very rare that i see it happen anymore. Us, the PLDs, are less concerned about it blinding the beastie, and more concerned with it generating enmity. Which is what you're doing if your flashing an NM i would rather you spent that 24 on a cure II.

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH of the century right here.