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Macro for use with Noble's and Marduk?Follow

#1 Feb 06 2010 at 8:17 AM Rating: Decent
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So last night in salvage I finally completed my set for Marduk bodypiece, and i curious if there is any way to incorporate this into a macro to get the benefits of the mnd +12 from marduk and the cure pot +10 from Noble's?

#2 Feb 06 2010 at 9:25 AM Rating: Decent
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No. Both of them function at the moment the spell fires.
#3 Feb 06 2010 at 6:32 PM Rating: Excellent
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Idle in Marduk, start casting in Marduk for fast cast, finish casting in noble's.
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#4 Apr 16 2010 at 9:48 PM Rating: Good
bsphil wrote:
Idle in Marduk, start casting in Marduk for fast cast, finish casting in noble's.

Bumping an old thread just for clarification.

So the timing for this would be like a DRG's AF/Relic macro for healing breath?
#5 Apr 16 2010 at 11:05 PM Rating: Decent
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So the timing for this would be like a DRG's AF/Relic macro for healing breath?


I'm not really intimately familiar with how the AF/Relic macro works, but I'm fairly sure that yours is a pretty good analogy. Essentially, with all Fast Cast stuff, you have to have the gear equipped before the spell initializes casting. Once it's started casting, you can change to anything you want for potency, or an alternate stat boost.

For example, I play on 360, to insure that all of my Cure spells benefit from my Cure Clogs, I use /ma "Spell" <lastst> macros.

Here's an example:

/target <stpc> (hit enter, duh)
/equip main "Teiwaz"
/equip body "Aristocrat's Coat"
/equip feet "Cure Clogs"
/equip waist "Cleric's Belt" (I use a waist equip macro to offer a slot for my Korin Obi for my Lightsday book)
/ma "Cure" <lastst> (hit enter again, cast spell, duh)

Unless you have extended macros, or use Spellcast, you'll need to find something to sacrifice, or a workaround, but that method will work for all Fast Cast type gear, including Marduk's. To give you an idea of your command order to utilize Marduk's, you'd write your macro like this:

/target <stpc>
/equip body "Marduk's Jubbah"
/equip feet "Cure Clogs"
/ma "Cure" <lastst>
/equip body "Aristocrat's Coat"
/equip feet "Blessed Pumps"

This clearly limits the amount of potency you can smash into your macro, but if you're thorough, that's irrelevant, and you gain the benefit of a substantial amount of Fast Cast along with the Potency and recast from Haste with the appropriate gear swaps.
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#6 Apr 17 2010 at 8:34 AM Rating: Decent
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So the timing for this would be like a DRG's AF/Relic macro for healing breath?


Sort of, but still different. Timing will depend on the spell, whereas for DRG the timing never really changes at all, unless you're doing something unorthodox like casting Cocoon and also trying to get a HB out of it (Cocoon has longer casting time than your standard HB triggers)
#7 Apr 17 2010 at 9:10 AM Rating: Excellent
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Timing will depend on the spell

Not at all. As long as the switch to potency gear is after the casting line, it works.

Edit: Unless you're talking about holding on to Refresh gear for as long as possible on long casting times, like Raise/Reraise, where you might want to put a /wait 7 or something before switching to Haste/Fast Cast/Conserve MP/whatever.

Edited, Apr 17th 2010 10:12am by chewzer
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#8 Apr 18 2010 at 6:40 PM Rating: Decent
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Edit: Unless you're talking about holding on to Refresh gear for as long as possible on long casting times, like Raise/Reraise, where you might want to put a /wait 7 or something before switching to Haste/Fast Cast/Conserve MP/whatever.


Well, in the case of Fast Cast gear specifically, you'd have to have the equipment on before you start casting the spell, whereas Conserve MP/Haste/Potency/Stat gear would only benefit you at the culmination of the spell's casting. Sorry for the nit-pick.

Regardless, your point, in a more general sense, is definitely valid and accentuates the sole benefit of such an expensive and niche item as Marduk's Jubbah, that being that you can benefit from a Fast Cast body by starting to cast in it, and retain your auto-Refresh, before switching to something that provides a specific boon to the spell in question.

Excepting this singular offering from the Jubbah, a Royal Redingote with the appropriate augments offers the same benefit. In fact, if you play frenetically enough, or utilize third-party tools, the difference between the two bodies becomes a 1 MP loss occasionally, when you start casting a spell. I say occasionally, because you'll frequently switch between your Redingote and Noble's/Cleric's so quickly that you won't miss the tic.

The insignificance of the difference is precisely why I haven't been working on my Jubbah with any amount of conviction, if I get a Khroma from an ISNM, I save it, but I'm not pushing too hard to complete it, the Dastanas were my sole priority, for Medicine Ring maintenance, I've just been building the other pieces over time, with the Jubbah being my last piece.

It is damned pretty though, that's for sure. As much as I love the classic look of my Aristocrat's with a mix of other equipment, or the subdued aesthetic of Shadow Coat with Nashira mixed in, Marduk's is definitely an eye-catching set.
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