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#1 Aug 22 2009 at 12:33 PM Rating: Good
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Hey, if you could please help me with a quick gearing question.

Note: I'm not rich, as I play puppetmaster. So while I'd love the uber gear it's not attainable right now. I'm more than willing to spend some time farming, but I'm not looking for make a massive investment in whm right now. I'm hoping I can get it up and running for under 100k, but if I need to farm I will.

For these slots, for a hume level 51 whm/sch, and private second class rank in WG:

neck: beak necklace
ear1: antivenom
ear2: insomnia
ring1: electrum
ring2: electrum
waist: qiqirn sash
back: I am not sure what to put here. white cape +1, maybe?
ammo: fortune egg. holy ampula, maybe?

Help me out! Is this sufficient gear for now? In particular, where do I go with back and ammo slots? Also, should I go ether/electrum, ether/mana, electrum/electurm or some other combo for the rings?

Thanks in advance.
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#2 Aug 22 2009 at 12:58 PM Rating: Decent
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Your gear in those slots is more than fine, it's the best available in several areas. Really, there's not much to worry about if you have gear at this level. You can use this until AF easily. Electrum rings are fine for that level. The only other thing you will need is MND gear, and if you don't have Cure V, or capped enfeebling skill, that's mostly pointless. When you hit 61, you should look into getting some MND gear and use it for Cure V and enfeebles. You'll also get a nice body for enfeebles from your AF set so it's a good level to start that. The only thing I would say is that a Beak Necklace +1 and a Qiqirn Sash +1 are both great investments that can easily last you your entire WHM career for your resting set, so the sooner you can get those, the better.

For ammo, holy ampula would be your best bet until Hedgehog Bomb which can be pricey, or White Tathlum which can be even pricier.

For back, I would say it doesn't really matter what you wear until the 60s when you can get an Intensifying Cape. That cape can easily carry you until 75 when you can start thinking about an Errant cape or stuff from endgame.

Something else to shoot for which is excellent AND free is a Trooper's Ring. You have to be a Lance Corporal in Assault rank, so, something to shoot for I guess. You can wear that ring 50-75 easily.

Edited, Aug 22nd 2009 4:05pm by JingWoo
#3 Aug 22 2009 at 8:35 PM Rating: Good
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JingWoo wrote:
Your gear in those slots is more than fine, it's the best available in several areas. Really, there's not much to worry about if you have gear at this level. You can use this until AF easily. Electrum rings are fine for that level. The only other thing you will need is MND gear, and if you don't have Cure V, or capped enfeebling skill, that's mostly pointless. When you hit 61, you should look into getting some MND gear and use it for Cure V and enfeebles. You'll also get a nice body for enfeebles from your AF set so it's a good level to start that. The only thing I would say is that a Beak Necklace +1 and a Qiqirn Sash +1 are both great investments that can easily last you your entire WHM career for your resting set, so the sooner you can get those, the better.
Mostly agreed, though at 71 you'll want to drop the whole ~5k on a Hierarch Belt to help slightly with your max MP set. (It's basically a glorified NQ Qiqirn Sash otherwise.)

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For ammo, holy ampula would be your best bet until Hedgehog Bomb which can be pricey, or White Tathlum which can be even pricier.
White Tathlum is pricey mostly because it's a good 2h melee piece. Smiley: laugh If you're not regularly with a RDM, the 30~45k AN investment in a Sturm's Report is worthwhile as well (MAcc+2/Campaign: MAcc+15).

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For back, I would say it doesn't really matter what you wear until the 60s when you can get an Intensifying Cape. That cape can easily carry you until 75 when you can start thinking about an Errant cape or stuff from endgame.
Or until 70 if you're keeping up on mercenary rank and can get a Lieutenant's Cape (10 more HP, 10 less MP, and 100 charges worth of, essentially, free Elixir). (For your MND build, White Cape +1 is fine until Rainbow/Prism Cape. Red Cape +1 would be solely for improving MAcc on /SCH Aspirs.)
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#4 Aug 23 2009 at 5:04 AM Rating: Excellent
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For ammo, holy ampula would be your best bet until Hedgehog Bomb which can be pricey, or White Tathlum which can be even pricier.


From 60ish i'd put holy ampula equal to a Fortune Egg, if MND isn't an issue; a new taru 75 whm get's around 11/12 mp from it. Nothing at all amazing, but 700k for 18 more MP is an upgrade that normally comes long after 75.


Only other ammo of note would be Lamiabane; laregly useless, unless you happen to XP in mamook or halvung, where you can activate the refresh enchantment. Not sure if people ever camp there anymore though.

It's also nice if you want to skill up throwing for no real reason. :D

Edit: spelling

Edited, Aug 23rd 2009 3:36pm by Backward
#5 Aug 31 2009 at 5:46 AM Rating: Good
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Looks good, I'll definatly second the Qiqirn Sash +1 however, its the Best HMP belt a whm can get. HMP+3, the same you get from the AF 2 Belt which is Incredibly rare.

That piece if you get it, will be useable on Every job with Mp while you rest, Definatly worth the Investment.

As for Rings, It really depends on what race you are, and how low you want your HP to be.

Im a taru, so i went with Mana ring and Electrum, offering a 35+ to Mp while only loosing 20 Hp, just ofc always remember that once those Mp are used up, those rings are rather useless until you rest.

White Cape +1 will ride you all the way into the 60s, which you'll still use for Cure 5s. So its definatly a good investment.

As for throwing item, i Still use Fortune Egg as a 75, its free, offers me ~10-11 Mp and 1 Vit (which Slightly helps cures)

Right now Hedgehog Bomb is something like 900k and raising my Mp cap by ~20 is hardly a big deal when i rarely get below half Mp.

All the gear slots you mentioned while useful are hardly core gear pieces.

I would definatly say make sure to have a Light and Dark staff before investing in any of the pieces you mentioned if you do not already have them.

I might also Suggest you try a piece of Crow's gear, they are relativly cheap, but offer decent Emn- boosts. Im aware you are almost into AF levels, and WHm is VERY fortunate in they can Ride AF all the way to Blessed and Nobles. But if you find you pull a lot of hate, try a piece of Crows or 2.

Also make sure you have Seer's Tunic and Barons Slops, they are Invaluable while resting.

Hope this helps a bit~
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#6 Aug 31 2009 at 1:52 PM Rating: Good
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Also make sure you have Seer's Tunic and Barons Slops, they are Invaluable while resting.
As far as that goes, the lv55 Cobra gear's hat is also worthwhile until, oh, Mirror Tiara or so.
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#7 Sep 01 2009 at 7:36 AM Rating: Good
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Your gear looks sensible and so are the suggestions in this thread. I'd second the trooper's ring.

Just make sure (and no, I'm not kidding) you have a light and dark staff. Assuming you have these, you look set for a while.
#8 Nov 08 2009 at 4:35 PM Rating: Excellent
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in regards to crow vs af..

Personally, I used crow hands/legs/feet because the AF offer little upgrades in enmity or MP.. Body could be Vermillion Cloak, or after 68, Noble's Tunic + Raven Beret (which imo is a really good WHM head piece until 75, and even after 75)

Edit: In personal experience, I've only used body for enfeebling and legs for repose/banish(undead mobs) Other than that, I didn't wear Artifact for very long until I +1'd some pieces for cures. I stuck with Crow/Raven pieces. I don't really care how ugly Crow pieces are, you cannot have enough -enmity for a party.. The little bit of MP that AF gives you isn't really enough to make a difference.

Then again, I often use flash in EXP PT's if someone's getting hit, or on NIN's :ichi. . . so that might be why I like Crow/Raven so much XD

Edited, Nov 8th 2009 5:40pm by SakkaofValefor

Edited, Nov 8th 2009 5:43pm by SakkaofValefor
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#9 Nov 08 2009 at 5:58 PM Rating: Decent
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Level 51 was in the topic title but I didn't see any mention of elemental staves. Honestly, nothing else you can wear will make as much of a difference as those.
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