Endgame Body Pieces for WHM (including the Noble's Tunic)Follow

You should be able to easily reach the 350 HP Stoneskin cap without Errant.

And what does Errant do for Paralyna? >_>

I'm just amused about my own comments on Yigit. I now own the whole set... lol. I still stand with what I said about the body piece alone but the hMP of the set is godly.

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ANY WHM who can not afford a Nobles Tunic in today's economy is a gimp. G-I-M-P gimp. I understand they aren't cheap, but at prices lower than 1 mil (690k on my server right now) there is no reason for a WHM NOT to own one. I was lucky, I leveled my WHM after Raise III dropped from 1 million gil to 5k gil (although Erase still cost me 600k). And this was BEFORE the inflation hit. Oh, and you don't even WANT to know how much a Noble's Tunic cost then, if ~700k gil seems insurmountable to you now. If a WHM can even EQUIP a Cleric's Briault before they own a Nobles, they aren't even trying.

Fyn, you're a 75 RDM are you not? You can easily make 60k a day, with a bit of running around from Cloister to Cloister. If you want to make it really easy, grab a 75 NIN or MNK friend to do all the killing for you (or any DD job really), and you can just toss out the occasional cure. Hell, if your WHM is close enough to Nobles Tunic, you can duo with that for faster transportation.
Starting WHMs can teleport for much better gil than was offered, back when a Nobles Tunic was ~10 million. Throw in some low level crafting while waiting on shouts (make ingots, threadds and cloth, lumber) and a WHM could easily save up for the Tunic. It won't happen overnight, but do you think DDs get their Hauby from the Haubergeon Fairy?

Just to help people put things in context - it might be useful to share experiences.
I didn't do sky when I hit noble's level. I actually farmed, crafted, spammed ksnm .+ bcnm and quested nin scrolls on mules. Mine cost 14 mil. But that was back at the stupid inflation point and my blessed body was sold for 2. When a friend left they gave me 4.

now the Tunics sell for 700k. Once I was highi enough to in it was eighteen months before our first relic body dropped and I won it. We've only seen three in total in two and a half years.

While AVatars can be 60k a day... Shiva and Leviathon are both a Pain to get to. W/ or W/o Ports, they are just long walks. Honestly, if you wanna make some moneydecently fast, garden on mules and harvest. Grab Wildgrass seeds from the vendor in Whitegate and send to Mules. Then plant and feed water crys in about 3 days. They will be ready to harvest in 6 days and this combo yields Tekkopekko grass, Azouph and Shaug Greens, and Gysahl Greens, as well as fire Crystals. Take EVERYTHIGN you harvest and run it to your local Shop. Tekko sells for 400+gil each, EACH not stack, and Shaug/Azouph sell for 200-240 each. Gysahl is minimal, like 12-16 gil each. Growing 1 stack of Tekko will yield you s profil from the seeds and crystals. A normal yield will net you ~20k profit. A good yield can be as much as 45k. Now, this may not seem like much, but do this on a few mules, and do it every 6 days. It does add up fast.

As for harvesting, grab some sickles and hit Woodlands, there are 15?(maybe 12) harvesting points most of which just require Sneak to get to. There are some tigersthat guard 1 or 2 of the points. But yields include; fresh mugwort, mohbwa grass, red moko grass and p. Hive chips. All of chich sell pretty decent. Not this is not a 300k per stack deal, but in as little as an hour you can make ~50k w/o any crafting to threads or cloth.

gardening will take you ~2-3 mins a char a day, and it very nice gil for the cost.

Nobles, definatly get, its well woth every gil. And before then you can use Af(eh) or Blessed. Both are perfectly ok to use until Nobles. And even though nobles is only 1mp/3 sec, anything is better then nothing, and it ALSO makes your cures more efficient.

Here's the funny thing. Back when Noble Tunics were 5 mil + (15 mil high point on my server), the amount of gil you could get for a teleport was 500-1k gil. And I know plenty of people who financed big ticket items , making most of their gil this way.

Same amount of time, I think not.

Amen. I've talked to DDs who spent a month or more farming for the money for this item. Yes, Noble's is still expensive in today's economy. Cost has never been a good excuse not to have a piece of equipment as useful as a Noble's Tunic. I farmed, taxied, mined, whatever to have that Noble's when I hit WHM68.8.. There are plenty of money-making options available to someone who only has WHM leveled. Just takes some research and some patience.

Drop rates being as random as they are in Dy-Beau, it can take *much* less time to get a Noble's than a Cleric's. Still don't have the AF2 body, and I soooo want it.

Good catch, I'll update. I should also add in the Ixion cloak as well. Someone seems to have disagreed with what I've posted and systematically karma bombed this thread. I'm more than happy to take on board edits/suggestions if you have something usual to add, or I've made a mistake.

Edited, Sep 2nd 2008 6:47am by eldelphia

Edited, Sep 2nd 2008 7:37am by eldelphia

I'll amend. This post has been evolving over almost 2 years so things like that slip through sometime. I'm aware of the Conserve MP from /SCH just need to add in the job mention.

Thanks to everyone whose comments have improved upon the original posting.

Edited, Sep 3rd 2008 6:32am by eldelphia

Oh absolutely, like this post, the gear we have access to has grown over time.

You might be able to include the Hydra Doublet as #17 now, with the increased drops in Dynamis-CoP.

DEF:43 MP+40
Accuracy+10
Enchantment: Adds "Refresh" Effect
Enmity-9
Evasion+10
Lv.70 WHM/SMN/RDM/SCH/BLM/BRD

I'm not saying it'll be common the way Rev. Mail is, being that it is a dyn-tav drop, but it does top that armor (imo) with the added mp, -9 emnity and no mnd penalty.

Going to add in the Bliaut, is there anything else this thread needs to include? I'll keep an eye on the update of course.

Third best iddle bodypiece actually. Ixion is better overall, and Marduk beats it if yo want to keep your headpiece (Flawless, +MP, Sol Cap, whatever).

Also, it brings almost zero utility past a small boost over Cleric's for iddle. Goliard is better for recasts, and ACP can be made for casting times.

It does look nice tho, so that's always a plus. I just hope the stats get better when synergy progresses; because I'm underwhelmed by what's currently available.

I respectfully disagree. I think Ixion Cloak is pretty worthless. Added Regen is not that great, I'd much rather have stuff like added defense against undead & added magic evasion against luminians, even as rarely as those will benefit me. Regen isn't going to do anything because a WHM doesn't die to DOT. A WHM dies to spike damage. So really, with just HP+22 and Refresh, Ebur Bliaut already beats Ixion Cloak.

Also the Healing cast time reduction is awesome for a standing piece because it's one less macro swap. I don't use Windower macros, so having to squeeze things into 6-line macros gets difficult. If my idle piece can double as my fast cast piece, that saves me 1 line. I realize I'm part of a diminishing crowd that doesn't use Spellcast or at least Windower macros... so that one doesn't count for much.

Plus, as you pointed out, Ixion prevents me from using a headpiece... but even without blocking the headpiece, I would still think it's inferior to other options for idle. I don't view Ixion Cloak as anything more than a stepping stone to better pieces for WHM. It would go to better use on other jobs.

Edited, Mar 22nd 2010 4:39pm by Pergatory

Looking back at this thread, it's amazing how times change.

I was bitching about the cost of a Noble's. I now have an Aristocrat's, which I think is currently cheaper than what Noble's was back then. lulz

According to this, Bliaut is twice as good as you already think.

Assuming that isn't a shop, of course.

I can't confirm it myself, unfortunately. My only attempt at Zirnitra (RDM/NINx2 BLM/NIN) ended with a wipe at 1% thanks to an unfortunate Draw In during Calamitous Wind spam.

This reminds me of a question I've been meaning to ask the WHM community: Would 'vs. Undead: Macc +6' and 'vs. Undead: MAB +3' be worth putting into the other 2 slots? I actually have the Evoliths for those 2 already, which I camped when I was bored for a couple days; but I can't decide if it would be worthwhile using that for the occasional Banish.

Edited, Mar 22nd 2010 10:57pm by chewzer

I've heard of the -6% as well, but this is the first time I've seen a screenshot. I'd assumed it was false until now, but if that's a shop then it's a very good one. I've only killed Zirnitra once and got -3% but I will probably end up killing him more after I build some scyld reserves. If I ever get more than -3%, I'll be sure to post my findings!

It's been a while, so maybe this is old news to everybody else:

I just confirmed more than -3%. I see Wiki has also been updated, further confirming that size 8 is -6%.

My Bliaut is complete and ready, so I'm going to attach the -4% for now. I'll be farming Scylds and making more attempts at the -6%. Also further research has showed that a -2% can be attached to Ebon Caubeen so I'll be doing that if Zirnitra drops a size 5 or lower Evolith to me.

OK, will add Pluviale into this. Anything else before the update goes nuts and brings us the Orison Briault +2?

I should have remembered this, I have one! Thanks :) I'd probably use a Teal Saio for nuking in. Which I should also mention.

Edited, Nov 29th 2010 5:14pm by eldelphia

Also:

Lore Robe
Def: 40 MP +16 Magic Damage Taken -2% Enmity -9 HMP +6
lv 77

Lore Robe +1
Def: 41 MP +17 Magic Damage Taken -3% Enmity -10 HMP +7
lv 77

Better than crow's for enmity, just under shadow/valk for mdt, more hmp than errant / mahatma / oracle's

Arcane Robe
Def: 51 MP +30 INT +10 MND +10 Adds Refresh Effect
lv 80

I don't really see much use for this for whm

Edited, Nov 29th 2010 5:56pm by Khiinroye

Also for Aspir/Drain when /SCH.

Edited, Dec 18th 2010 5:24pm by Chewzer