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#3352 Jan 12 2014 at 6:18 PM Rating: Good
Priest is the best class.
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#3353 Jan 12 2014 at 7:05 PM Rating: Good
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Priest does seem solid. Just got Warlock up to 10. Once I have a set of Murlocks, that'll be my go-to for questing purposes. Smiley: lol
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#3354 Jan 13 2014 at 12:32 AM Rating: Good
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Priest does seem solid. Just got Warlock up to 10. Once I have a set of Murlocks, that'll be my go-to for questing purposes. Smiley: lol

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Once I have a set of Murlocks, that'll be my go-to for questing purposes.

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Oh, @#%^ you. Smiley: laugh

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#3355 Jan 13 2014 at 3:58 AM Rating: Good
Mrrrrrrrgrrrrl!
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So if I understand it correctly, Hearthstone is a trading card game-ish game where you're locked into a class/type for your deck?
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#3357 Jan 13 2014 at 7:53 AM Rating: Good
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Yes. There are shared cards, class-specific cards, and a class-specific hero power. The game modes are Constructed and Arena; Constructed is you playing with a premade deck from your collection against other players with premade decks (ranked/unranked), and Arena is where you pick one of three randomized heroes and construct your deck by picking one of three random cards over and over again, and then you play against other Arena players.

If you're into watching stuff like this (I thought I wasn't, but I found out I was), I recommend this guy. He's brilliant at the game and delivers the occasional deadpan humor, and he talks less than TotalBiscuit and those other Hearthstone casters.

Here's a full Arena run by him:



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#3358 Jan 13 2014 at 11:54 AM Rating: Good
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That sucks donkey balls then.
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#3359 Jan 13 2014 at 12:03 PM Rating: Good
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You're not locked into it in terms of "I am a Druid and I will always be a Druid."

It just means that the class is your deck's "type." It's a lot like land cards from Magick, which determine what cards you can use. Except now the effects are less intense. Instead of choosing to build a green deck, and only really having green cards/lands, you get to build a Shaman deck, where you get some Shaman cards, and you get some shared cards. And it's nice because you could be running a Shaman deck and your opponent could be running a Warrior deck, and you could both use the same card, and it might have very different synergy and play a different strategy for you two.

But if you don't like playing as a Shaman, all you have to do is build a deck of a different class. You "unlock" a class by beating an opponent of that class (AI in training or another player), and you fully unlock the basic deck by leveling that class to 10.

As far as I can tell, there's no benefit for leveling past 10 besides showing off your experience, sort of like one form of ranking.
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#3360 Jan 13 2014 at 12:21 PM Rating: Good
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You're not locked into it in terms of "I am a Druid and I will always be a Druid."

It just means that the class is your deck's "type." It's a lot like land cards from Magick, which determine what cards you can use. Except now the effects are less intense. Instead of choosing to build a green deck, and only really having green cards/lands, you get to build a Shaman deck, where you get some Shaman cards, and you get some shared cards. And it's nice because you could be running a Shaman deck and your opponent could be running a Warrior deck, and you could both use the same card, and it might have very different synergy and play a different strategy for you two.
Except that in MtG you're not locked into a colour, you can combine any number of cards of any colours you like and I've played a deck with white & red cards and no lands that could give me white or red mana because the deck used other means to get those cards into play and I've ran a red goblin deck that had a bunch of red & black lands to cast the one black spell I had in the sideboard to play against some opponents (and for fetch land but that's getting into details to much). Having a deck with just 1 colour is quite rare in any sort of serious deck and it's virtually impossible for the tournament play with the oldest/least limited cards as there are cards that are so good you'll want to have them in your deck anyway and there are always a myriad of ways to make that work.

So if anything, the effects are far more intense than they are in MtG.
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#3361 Jan 13 2014 at 1:04 PM Rating: Good
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Your class determines some of your cards and your hero power. You don't HAVE to pick class cards in your deck, although you usually do, because that's why you chose the class.

Hearthstone is not as complex as MtG, but it's strangely engaging, and the Warcraft theme makes it oddly familiar.
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#3362 Jan 13 2014 at 1:17 PM Rating: Good
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It's definitely more accessible than MtG. But I'm inclined to say that's a good thing. I wouldn't have wanted a game MORE complex than Magic, and Magic is already filling that particular niche.

If anything, this will get more people interested in card-based games, and those looking for something more hardcore will gravitate towards Magic.
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#3363 Jan 13 2014 at 2:49 PM Rating: Good
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I don't think accessibility is a problem with MtG, at least not to the extend that you need people to play against and with. If you've got people playing and learning the game at the same time as you are then the game is simple enough, I managed to learn to play the game with my friends when I was 9 or 10 and none of us could read English. Money and people to play with are the big drawbacks to the game and pretty much the reasons I don't play it anymore.

That all said, the complexity of MtG is what has kept me interested in the game, the total freedom it gives on building and testing decks to do anything you want in whatever way you want is the best part of the game.
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#3364 Jan 13 2014 at 3:05 PM Rating: Excellent
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I have nothing to add to this conversation, as I've never played the game. However I would like to say Aethien's new avatar gets a Smiley: thumbsup.
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#3365 Jan 13 2014 at 3:22 PM Rating: Good
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Smiley: grin



Also, I got Torchlight 2 since it was cheap on steam and I'll be without proper internet for ~2 weeks after I move. It's a fun game.
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#3366 Jan 13 2014 at 5:11 PM Rating: Good
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His Excellency Aethien wrote:
I managed to learn to play the game with my friends when I was 9 or 10 and none of us could read English.


I tried watching some MtG tournaments, but I had no @#%^ing clue what was going on. I've watched maybe a dozen videos from people playing it and I still haven't scratched the surface of what the hell is going on.

Hearthstone I picked up instantly. It's easy to learn, but difficult to master. The intuitive design means you know what's going on without having to read through eight lines of flavor text on each card first. No tapping and keeping control of your mana, you get one mana every turn to a maximum of 10, and your mana is replenished every turn. Doesn't get more simple than that.

At the same time, though, it's very complex if you play pro constructed players. You need to calculate math and guesstimate draws two or three turns ahead, just like in other card games. This is an excellent example of complex play in Hearthstone:

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#3367 Jan 13 2014 at 5:19 PM Rating: Good
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I managed to learn to play the game with my friends when I was 9 or 10 and none of us could read English.


I tried watching some MtG tournaments, but I had no @#%^ing clue what was going on. I've watched maybe a dozen videos from people playing it and I still haven't scratched the surface of what the hell is going on.
Well yeah, obviously. MtG tournament play is about the metagame and there's hundreds of mechanics and tactics. It's a whole different game than it is when you're just playing friends or even small time MtG tournaments.
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#3368 Jan 13 2014 at 7:44 PM Rating: Good
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It makes me feel old to be able to say that I remember M:tG not being a cluster@#%^ of rules and tactics.
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#3369 Jan 13 2014 at 8:36 PM Rating: Good
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Don't worry, I remember that, too. Then I didn't pay attention to it at all for a decade, and then I started playing a little with their online offerings and it was just insane.

I like complex. But if I can't play you as a casual hobby, I'm never going to play you. I like when a game is accessible, and there's room to grow and develop skill. But I haven't been able to get into super competitive games like LoL or DOTA2 because of the skill threshold required just to be able to not suck horribly.
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#3370 Jan 13 2014 at 9:19 PM Rating: Good
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im still waiting for a beta key...

had my beta box checked for a long time, blizz was supposed to give everyone access.

maybe they meant everyone but me?
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#3371 Jan 13 2014 at 9:42 PM Rating: Good
They haven't done the big "everyone who opted in gets in" wave yet. Talking about possibly next week for that.
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#3372 Jan 14 2014 at 5:42 AM Rating: Good
I'm curious to try Hearthstone. I've heard from a couple friends that it's really fun. I don't think I've gotten an invite yet though.

Also, trying to change your sleep schedule sucks. Trying to stay up to 6am tonight, and then 8am tomorrow. I will be very happy once I'm adjusted to graveyard lol.
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#3373 Jan 14 2014 at 9:41 AM Rating: Good
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What job did you get, Tails?
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I will be very happy once I'm adjusted to graveyard lol.
I'm not sure that ever happens... Smiley: lol
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#3375 Jan 14 2014 at 12:36 PM Rating: Good
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Back to work for me!

Only restriction doctor still has me on is that I can't lift, which sucks. Guess it's cardio for the next month.

Oh, and I obviously can't use Percocet and commute. So hopefully Tylenol is sufficient to get me through the day.
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#3376 Jan 14 2014 at 2:54 PM Rating: Good
I'm a residential counselor for a facility that tries to rehabilitate parolee teenage boys. Basically just a glorified babysitter, but I'm happy to have a job where I'm making a difference in someone's life.
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Sounds cool, and it's the same reason I had for choosing my profession.

Sometimes I wish I'd had simpler goals in life, but I'm happy when I go to work and I'm happy when I leave, so I guess it's not all that bad. Smiley: smile
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#3378 Jan 14 2014 at 3:47 PM Rating: Excellent
I hadn't heard of heroes of the storm until today. Looks fun.
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I'm a residential counselor for a facility that tries to rehabilitate parolee teenage boys. Basically just a glorified babysitter, but I'm happy to have a job where I'm making a difference in someone's life.


I foresee much coffee in your future.
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Caffeine doesn't actually help you stay awake. Not if you drink it regularly anyway.
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Caffeine doesn't actually help you stay awake. Not if you drink it regularly anyway.


It does give you energy, though. My brother in law worked a similar job as Pigtails for years; she's gonna need it. Smiley: lol
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Wish it gave mental energy like it does physical energy. Nothing like being all hyper and having your brain jammed in neutral.
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#3383 Jan 14 2014 at 5:12 PM Rating: Good
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Oh, luls. Just dinged 90 on my Monk, and I'm pushing the same damage as my Druid did when I hit 90 on it.

Thing is, my Monk is a healer...

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It's not until you move that you notice just how much crap you have.
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I did recently discover that Nyquil and coffee is a lot like conscious sleep walking. Kind of awesome. Like things are out of sync so it all appears real but like in a dream you have the nagging suspicion that something is amiss. I also may have bludgeoned a wild turkey to death with another wild turkey I caught.
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They haven't done the big "everyone who opted in gets in" wave yet. Talking about possibly next week for that.


just got in today

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Back to work for me!

Only restriction doctor still has me on is that I can't lift, which sucks. Guess it's cardio for the next month.

Oh, and I obviously can't use Percocet and commute. So hopefully Tylenol is sufficient to get me through the day.


you can use percs and commute, it makes the drive more relaxing
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I did recently discover that Nyquil and coffee is a lot like conscious sleep walking. Kind of awesome. Like things are out of sync so it all appears real but like in a dream you have the nagging suspicion that something is amiss. I also may have bludgeoned a wild turkey to death with another wild turkey I caught.


that sounds awesome
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I think you use a different meaning of awesome than I am.
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#3389 Jan 15 2014 at 2:13 AM Rating: Good
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maybe

but you should try mine, cause its awesome
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#3390 Jan 15 2014 at 3:39 AM Rating: Good
I will be needed lots of coffee at first. Once I get adjusted though, I think I'll be fine. I'm going to try and stick to the graveyard schedule as best I can even on days off, that way I'm not tired all the time. I don't have kids, so it's not like I have to be up during the day otherwise.
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That's what I do when I work nights. Just stay awake long enough in the morning so if you need something you can still get it with little trouble.
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And you can give your vocabulary a workout, coming up with all kinds of fun names to call your neighbors who feel the need to make noise at 11am or crazy hour like that. Smiley: disappointed

That was the worst part of working odd hours for me. I'd get off at like 2am, fall asleep at 4am, and come 8am someone was mowing the lawn or something.
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#3393 Jan 15 2014 at 10:31 AM Rating: Good
Reports are going out that they did the big Hearthstone opt in beta wave. If you opted in, check your account for an invite.
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So I am officially living in my new house. Moved over the cats and last bits n bobs today, handed in my keys and got the first things set up. Unfortunately no internet until the 29th, aside from mobile that is.

I've got Torchlight, 3 Terry Pratchett books and 11 seasons of M*A*S*H, that should get me through the first week... Smiley: lol
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#3395 Jan 15 2014 at 9:46 PM Rating: Good
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And you can give your vocabulary a workout, coming up with all kinds of fun names to call your neighbors who feel the need to make noise at 11am or crazy hour like that. Smiley: disappointed

That was the worst part of working odd hours for me. I'd get off at like 2am, fall asleep at 4am, and come 8am someone was mowing the lawn or something.

That is why I invested in some ear plugs. Smiley: grin Finally managed to sleep in until 4pm today with the help of a sleeping pill. I have my first graveyard shift tonight in about two hours.

Grats on the new house Aeth!
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Yet I still couldn't get 3 wins with my stupid Warlock deck before bed. Smiley: mad

I don't think it's a problem with the deck, per se. I mean, I could definitely use some better cards (side effect of being relatively new). But my draws were SO BAD. Like draw all 5/6 cards in my first hand, discard all of them, then draw all 5/6s. Then draw spells instead of minions. Etc.
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Oh, god, that 3-hour nap.

There goes my sleep cycle.
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Mazra wrote:
Oh, god, that 3-hour nap.

There goes my sleep cycle.


Yeah, you're @#%^ed.
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idiggory, King of Bards wrote:
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Yet I still couldn't get 3 wins with my stupid Warlock deck before bed. Smiley: mad

I don't think it's a problem with the deck, per se. I mean, I could definitely use some better cards (side effect of being relatively new). But my draws were SO BAD. Like draw all 5/6 cards in my first hand, discard all of them, then draw all 5/6s. Then draw spells instead of minions. Etc.


ya having a crap card list to pull from is making getting a crap draw/run of top decks a common occurrence

im going to push all my heros up to level 10 now so i at least get some more cards to play around with overall
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idiggory, King of Bards wrote:
Mazra wrote:
Oh, god, that 3-hour nap.

There goes my sleep cycle.


Yeah, you're @#%^ed.


beer can solve this problem i think
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There has not been a post in almost an hour!!!!! AAAAAAAAAA
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