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Forget the Hurricane, really.
First big add, place mushrooms where he is being tanked (top of the stairs) and wait for the adds to pop after he dies.
Second big add, same thing, but put one of the mushrooms on the first pool, just to slow them down.
Third big add, spread those mushrooms.
After you cast the shrooms, dot them and when they are about to cross the slow area, typhoon them. Keep dotting and place shrooms again. Now kill them =]

Yeah, I just have issues getting the timing right on moving adds with Mushrooms. =/ I have a tendency to detonate them too early. That is a good point about not using Hurricane on the first set of adds though, not sure I would have thought of that. >.> I was thinking about doubling up on mushrooms and Hurricane to help with the slows. This week at the very least, since our DK is going to have to tank so he won't be frost specced. Slows will pretty much be on me. =/

Hmm, that's a good idea too. I tend to go all over the place trying to DoT them up and stay far enough away from them that my corruption doesn't get too high.

I uploaded a video of a Cho´gal kill where I play as a Moonkin. Maybe it can help ya out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBwJzYx4DOo

Yeah, that looks pretty similar to what Calculated does in his video. It's what I tried to do when I attempted Cho'gall in a PuG Saturday night after the official raid. The last two weeks we've stopped at Cho'gall, our RL wanted us to just focus on the bosses we already had on farm and try to increase our performances. Now that people have been cut, we're going to start working on him again.
This is the logs from the first wipe with the PuG, there was a second one on there too. Apparently they had been wiping on him for two hours when I came in, so after two more wipes they decided to call it. The other fights listed on that report are from my raid group.

Yeah I've noticed that. I had it happen twice right as I was about to detonate mushrooms too. >.< Starfall I do, and trying to be in solar for the adds I do as well. I do have a bit of an issue with multi-dotting, especially in chaotic fights like Cho'gall. I'm finally getting to a point where my uptime with DoTs on V&T is decent. I always make sure to refresh the DoTs when I move to start attacking the big add though.

Yeah, I use the Threat plates layout for tidy plates. I also have boss bars set up with Shadowed Unit Frames, so that it shows my debuffs on every boss in each fight. That helps make it an easy click from one boss target to another, which can be really helpful in V&T when one dragon is out of sight even when you have the camera zoomed out all the way. This is also quite helpful in the end boss in GB, as the adds he summons show up as boss bars too.

Yeah, I don't have the 4 set yet. I've got three, I was just waiting on getting a shoulder. I tried out the Hurricane thing for a couple of attempts, and yeah it didn't really seem to help much. Typhoon was a lot more useful. I had Starsurge because that's what Calculated's guide recommended. I've been thinking about changing it back to Wrath though, because Starsurge does nothing for me really with the amount of haste I have. If I start out with casting it on my Lunar eclipse, I have to wait for the lunar eclipse to come back around otherwise I'll miss it. I don't have quite enough for it to be available on each eclipse.

Did you get a chance to look at the combat logs yet?

lol, no problem. I'm forgetful too. If you could check the other fights besides Cho'gall and see if you can detect anything I'm doing wrong, that'd be awesome too.

Your DoT uptime isn't great on Cho'gall either, but you still got a 70% ranking. Of course they only show rankings for kills, so I have nothing to go on for my performance on Cho'gall, but still. You're also at 70% or higher for almost all the fights there. The only one below 70 was still at 68. I think the only fight you have listed there that I outperform you on is Magmaw. =x

How do you do that?

This is what I have tried to mimic though. I've pretty much tried to do whatever Calculated suggests, as he's rated about 50 or so in the world for Boomkins. This is what I try to do for AoE.

Im trying to analyze yours and mine spell by spell:
yours:
http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-lv4mo0ib301exzji/analyze/dd/spell/?source=0&s=13039&e=13571
mine:
http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/81fyarggynxdkvwa/analyze/dd/spell/?source=6&s=3891&e=4299

It has a table there with the spells. I've checked Moonfire/Sunfire, Wrath, Starfire and Insect Swarm in both mine and yours. Then choose none to Filtering. The parts where Eclipse is up and down are very clear in the graph once you do that, and it begins to get easier to analyze. You can zoom in (with tables) and out to check things more clearer.
Something is odd with your graphic. If you do a zoom in with tables in your log for the first 1 minute or so, you can see that first you casted IS, MF then SF. Just fine and dandy. Then, you went to Solar (you can see Moonfire dropping and Sunfire appearing) but your IS should have more power in it and it does not, so you probably didnt refreshed it during this Eclipse? Odd.
Then you went out of Eclipse Power, casted MF, probably recasted IS, casted some Wrath and then passed 10 seconds (or something like it) without casting Wrath nor Starfire, only dots ticking. Wonder why. Movement? Positioning of big add? Maybe you are waiting to be able to actually cast something in the big add while the tank gets aggro? Killing small adds? Theres no Wild Mushroom there, though. Maybe you got MC'd? Seems like it.

Then you resumed to cast your stuff, got Eclipse, got 1 Starfire out, but, suddenly, 6 seconds with no damage at all, not even dots, then 1 Starsurge and 2 Starfire. I'm assuming you got MC'd and no one released you for a while, then you casted Starsurge and those SF. You only casted IS/MF after that. If I'm correct, 6 seconds while MC'd will probably make your group wipe in the long run.

One thing that I'm noticing but I dont know why it's happening to your graph is that your Starfire casts seems too spaced between one and another. I mean, they shouldnt be as near of each other as Wrath, but not as much spaced as yours.


To sum it up, it seems you are moving too much and that's hurting your dps a lot. It seems, too, that when you get MC'd people are not releasing you quickly or you are waiting too much for the small adds to pop out. And sometimes you are forgetting to recast your dots. Maybe you should try an addon to remind you everytime it drops from the boss or something.

Will take a look in the other ones.

About that, only thing I would say is not correct is that you should cast IS first. Other than that, seems just fine.

Huh, the video was supposed to be longer than that. Oh well... I do cast IS first most of the time. Sometimes I goof it up, but 90% of the time or so IS goes up first.

For Magmaw, we just have the frost DK kite the adds around and all the other DPS ignore them. I do cast Starfall during Lunar Eclipse, but other than that I'm not doing any damage to the adds.

For Maloriak, I do use WM, but I'm not very good at placing them while I'm running to the adds. So it tends to go off a little late most likely. And I usually only do it once and then just spam Sunfire. By the time the CD is back up they're usually all dead or close to it.

Thanks for the tips though. If I end up staying with my druid for my raid group I'll work on the things you suggested.