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#1 Mar 21 2011 at 11:28 PM Rating: Decent
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Ok, so I am having some serious issues with what has historically been my favorite class and spec, and feel like I need to vent a little and seek solace in the larger resto community. My main is a NE Resto Druid, well geared, and I am currently running through heroics - half my gear is heroic gear, the other half is from regulars. My item level is 335. I have been a healer since I started playing MMOs 10 years ago, and absolutely understand not only the general healing mechanics, but the specific resto druid mechanics as well. I always lead my tanks in with a full stack of LB, cast a regrowth when the mobs start hitting harder, throw in a swiftmend for some addtl. healing, and if things get rough, use healing touch or rejuv. But here is the thing - my groups keep wiping. And I have had some really fantastically geared players run with me (a tank earlier this evening with 184k health), and pretty decent agro management, but they just keep dying - I can't keep them alive! It is very frustrating, because I feel like I am doing something wrong, but I know I'm not.

Is anyone else having issues healing heroics/healing in general? I watch other healers, shammy healers particularly, and watch their mana remain at 90% while their group health is at 90% run through entire heroic dungeons without flinching, then I try it, and we all die. And die again. And again. I am a smart guy, an experienced gamer, and seasoned MMO healer, but I really, really can't get the hang of this/figure out what is going on. Are resto druids broke? I feel like even my "Oh ****" spells, are weak ***************** Rejuvenation and Healing Touch seem to match up with the weaker of the priest heals. And nourish, while it is certainly not an "Oh ****" spell, is so weak that it almost warrants me not even putting on my hot bar.

Sorry for the Wall Of Text...this has just been bugging me for weeks now, and I need to rant/figure out how to fix it. Maybe re-rolling is the answer, I don't know.

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An armory link would be super helpful. Otherwise we can only guess.
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Well we certainly aren't the over-powered healers we were at the beginning of last expansion, but you should be able to push through heriocs.

A couple of things that caught my eye:

-Enchants are awesome, so are belt buckles and gems and such. Investing in those will help quite a bit. You don't have to buy the most expensive stuff; anything extra helps.

-You're still going the want the mana talents. Pick up Empowered Touch to help you roll LB, and split 5 points between Furor and Moonglow. Don't worry about Genesis until you are comfortable with your mana. Naturalist is good too.

-Reforge: Hit & Crit go to haste until you are above 916, then reforge any additional into spirit. If you end up being comfortable with your mana, the stuff you reforge into spirit can be switched to mastery.

-Also see if you can get your hands on a better relic, but you probably realized that...

My Nelf ended up about the same gear level as you, so feel free to check him out. If you notice both of our Nelfs have the same gear level, but basically all my stats are higher. You're largely on the right track it seems though, and it's apparent you pretty much know what you're doing. This is just the point where some tweaking and fine tuning can make all the difference.

Edit: For spell selection advice see the last part of the resto druid section of the "Read Me: Druid 406" sticky. Some of it is opinion, but it shouldn't steer you wrong.

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#5 Mar 22 2011 at 4:03 PM Rating: Excellent
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My main is a NE Resto Druid, well geared, and I am currently running through heroics - half my gear is heroic gear, the other half is from regulars. My item level is 335.



iLvL 335 is definitely not well geared; It isn't much above the heroic entry point. Combine that with lack of gems and enchants and your gear is probably below that entry level. Healing is hard when you start heroics and I wouldn't even attempt it without making sure the gems and enchants were done - even green gems and the cheaper enchants will make a big difference.


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My main is a NE Resto Druid, well geared, and I am currently running through heroics - half my gear is heroic gear, the other half is from regulars. My item level is 335.



iLvL 335 is definitely not well geared; It isn't much above the heroic entry point. Combine that with lack of gems and enchants and your gear is probably below that entry level. Healing is hard when you start heroics and I wouldn't even attempt it without making sure the gems and enchants were done - even green gems and the cheaper enchants will make a big difference.

pretty much that.

Use blue gems for blue itens, perfect green gems for green items.
Enchant with the enchants that do not use Crystal.
And dont be lazy and get exalted rep with factions. You will see a really big difference after you get rep epics.
And, for god's sake, pick another relic. The one you are using is a feral. And a bad one at that.
Oh, and reforge. A lot. Get rid of crit, get spirit/haste/mastery.

Here, use this:
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Check the difference tab. It's freaking HUGE!
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For the record, my Druid is now wearing full heroic (+ epic trinket) gear and it doesn't get easier even then.

It's pretty much from one ditch into another. If people play well, I can run a heroic using Wild Growth, Lifebloom and Swiftmend, using Regrowth on OOC procs to fuel the Swiftmends. On bad days, I'm dumping every AOE heal I've got, including Tranquility, and people still drop.

Basically, healing at this gear level is like tightrope walking.

Edited, Mar 23rd 2011 1:38am by Mazra
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Mazra wrote:
For the record, my Druid is now wearing full heroic (+ epic trinket) gear and it doesn't get easier even then.

It's pretty much from one ditch into another. If people play well, I can run a heroic using Wild Growth, Lifebloom and Swiftmend, using Regrowth on OOC procs to fuel the Swiftmends. On bad days, I'm dumping every AOE heal I've got, including Tranquility, and people still drop.

Basically, healing at this gear level is like tightrope walking.

Edited, Mar 23rd 2011 1:38am by Mazra

Even with my current 352 iLevel, if people make too much mistake they will die. The difference is on how many mistakes the healer can actually absorb.
In pre-heroic gear, pretty much none. Pre-raid gear, some. Raid gear, a handfull. Heroic raid gear is probably back to wotlk healing, I guess.
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Unlike WOTLK, though, a wipe in Cataclysm happens 5-10 minutes before the wipe actually happens. It's the rolling snowball effect, and I absolutely hate it.
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Mazra wrote:
Unlike WOTLK, though, a wipe in Cataclysm happens 5-10 minutes before the wipe actually happens. It's the rolling snowball effect, and I absolutely hate it.

Just stop healing and let everyone die to prevent that 5~10 minutes =p
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Mazra wrote:
Unlike WOTLK, though, a wipe in Cataclysm happens 5-10 minutes before the wipe actually happens. It's the rolling snowball effect, and I absolutely hate it.

Just stop healing and let everyone die to prevent that 5~10 minutes =p


I would, except you don't know you're going to wipe at that time. You're just thinking "Oops, I let Lifebloom fall off the tank" and five minutes later you're dead and the group is disbanding.

Good stuff. Triage healing.
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Mazra wrote:
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Mazra wrote:
Unlike WOTLK, though, a wipe in Cataclysm happens 5-10 minutes before the wipe actually happens. It's the rolling snowball effect, and I absolutely hate it.

Just stop healing and let everyone die to prevent that 5~10 minutes =p


I would, except you don't know you're going to wipe at that time. You're just thinking "Oops, I let Lifebloom fall off the tank" and five minutes later you're dead and the group is disbanding.

Good stuff. Triage healing.

Being really honest, Mazra, once you overgear the heroic content, the triage really happens. Too bad you have to overgear it.
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Thanks for all the help guys. I will take all this into consideration, and work on famring rep, gemming and enchanting my gear. Hopefully things will get better. I will also probably level my shammy on the side...their healing looks beastly and fun.

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I will also probably level my shammy on the side...their healing looks beastly and fun.


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Brisin wrote:
Being really honest, Mazra, once you overgear the heroic content, the triage really happens. Too bad you have to overgear it.


So, letting someone die out of laziness isn't triage? Smiley: confused

Man, I got this all wrong then!
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Mazra wrote:
Brisin wrote:
Being really honest, Mazra, once you overgear the heroic content, the triage really happens. Too bad you have to overgear it.


So, letting someone die out of laziness isn't triage? Smiley: confused

Man, I got this all wrong then!

I only really let someone die when they just dont want to learn. Yesterday I had a pug group that had a rogue that just couldnt bother to move out of bad stuff and kept hitting mobs that werent the ones the tank was focusing in.
I got tired of healing him and he died 7 times. =]
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Brisin, welcome to my life. At first I felt bad that I couldn't keep every member alive, all the time, but they just keep pulling agro, and standing in the nasties. And yeah, they die, and now instead of feeling remorse, I get a good chuckle and a comical /p reprimand. Cata has definitely shifted individual survivability back on the individuals - unlike the old days, where the healer was expected to heal you, no matter how much sh*t you got yourself into. Gotta say, at times it is frustrating, because groups wipe faster, but at the same time, if you get a group of intelligent individuals, you can fly through content.
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Honestly, I don't have any difficulties with HCs since I replaced all my green stuff with blue gear. What I do is pretty much stack LB + Rej on the tank, then nourish him till we kill the pack. If a dps takes dmg I cast rej again. If two dps are damaged go with WG and etc. Swiftmend is used on run when I feel I had to. And I never go with Regr. unless its a matter of life and death.

However I'm now able to spam HT + Rej through the entire fight no matter if its a trash pull or a boss encounter.

The key is to achieve a good amount of combat regen, respectively spirit.

Occasionally someone will die, but if he doesn't do what it is supposed to, then anyway I can't save him. There are so many deadly abilities and everybody has to watch his own steps at first place.

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You replaced your green gear with blue gear and was instantly able to keep the tank up with LB and Rejuv? Smiley: dubious

Color me skeptical, but I'm in full heroic gear now and I still have issues keeping tanks up with just LB and Rejuv. Most recently I had to spam HT with LB and Rejuv up just to prevent the tank from folding. Of course, we weren't using any CC (lolCC) and he was taking a royal beating, but still.

And I feel that Nourish really isn't worth it unless I've got three Rejuvs rolling. I find that LB + Rejuv on the tank and Wild Growth + Swiftmend on cooldown on ye random DPS (whoever takes damage) with Regrowth on OOC procs so I can pop Swiftmend is needed to keep the DPS up. I'm gemmed for intellect and that rotation gives me more mana back than I lose, so it's no biggie.

The issue lies in HT spam now. If the tank begins to drop, I have to cut AOE healing to nuke the tank, which often means the death of one or two DPS, which in turn prolongs the fight, causing me to go OOM or the tank to drop from the lack of HPS, because my HT spam keeps me GCD locked and unable to apply HoTs, which in turn cripples my direct healing.

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You replaced your green gear with blue gear and was instantly able to keep the tank up with LB and Rejuv? Smiley: dubious

Color me skeptical, but I'm in full heroic gear now and I still have issues keeping tanks up with just LB and Rejuv. Most recently I had to spam HT with LB and Rejuv up just to prevent the tank from folding. Of course, we weren't using any CC (lolCC) and he was taking a royal beating, but still.

And I feel that Nourish really isn't worth it unless I've got three Rejuvs rolling. I find that LB + Rejuv on the tank and Wild Growth + Swiftmend on cooldown on yet random DPS (whoever takes damage) with Regrowth on OOC procs so I can pop Swiftmend is needed to keep the DPS up. I'm gemmed for intellect and that rotation gives me more mana back than I lose, so it's no biggie.

The issue lies in HT spam now. If the tank begins to drop, I have to cut AOE healing to nuke the tank, which often means the death of one or two DPS, which in turn prolongs the fight, causing me to go OOM or the tank to drop from the lack of HPS, because my HT spam keeps me GCD locked and unable to apply HoTs, which in turn cripples my direct healing.


Is it melee DPS that die a lot? I bet it is. lolflorenece the tank on CD if it is those pesky melee DPS. I heal with mah priest, I let DPS get low all the time. Unless they fuck up real bad they can stay some where between 50-75% on most fights and be ok. If not tell them to learn to fucking kick sh¡t as that or lack of that is why they are dying.
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Yeah, it's usually melee dying and it's usually to TARDs.

I think I'll run a heroic with a "kick stuff, avoid fire or die a horrible death" attitude. If nothing else, it'll give me a reason to +1 in the popcorn thread.
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I'm fairly blunt about that sort of stuff. My one rogue friend is a kicking fiend, I like to run with him.
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Shˆt, even on my rogue, I've use Blind as an interrupt if Kick is on CD. Seriously most melee needs to l2kick.
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Prolly, I should have been more specific. LB+Rej+Nourish is enough to keep the tank topped off. If there is a spike damage throw Swiftmend at him. And if it isn't enough, go with HT.

Anyway, if I was in your position Mazra, I'd have changed my build a bit. I'd have moved the 3p from Nature's bounty to Blessing of the Groove (4% more heal through Rejuv) and Gift of the Earthmother. I'm not sure what your mana pool is, but I'd rather keep Furor 3/3 and Moonglow 2/3.

If you were going to raid heal, your build was just fine, but for the reason of running heroics only, it can be adjusted in my opinion. The situation with 3 rejuvs active most of the time in HC is pretty unusual and it basically means something's wrong with the pull or the group. At least I couldn't benefit from Nature's bounty when I was at that point.

And I'm not sure what your healing set is, but if you still doesn't feel confident and have mana issues, then probably gemming mainly +40intel could be successful. At least until you have acquired some epics with better stats.



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I have to pipe in here, myself. My druid, resto for our 10m, is at the bottom of the meters for heals. I know, I know, I'll probably catch some flak about even mentioning meters, but it still damages my ego.

Last night was the last straw: in our BoT run, our regular pally healer didn't show up, so a shaman in mostly blues was our 3rd healer. She beat me on the meters (not by much, but...wait, wut???)

This is not me slacking off. I've had this druid since I started playing in '06. Sometimes feral, but mostly resto for raids. And I have to say, the current state of affairs is horrible. I'm rolling LBs on one tank, HoTs on both tanks, rejuv's thrown around like candy on raid members, swiftmends, wild growth: I'm going all out, and come in dead last. Bah. The mana situation is tolerable at my gear level, but just.

Here's a link to her armory: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/shadowsong/nimaweh/advanced

(At the moment her gloves and cape have no enchants, I just got them last night. I've been playing around with my reforging too, so that's a bit of a mess at the moment)

And people keep telling me resto healing is fine? I'd really like to have a chat with someone who is happy with things. Maybe they can give me pointers.



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Anyway, if I was in your position Mazra, I'd have changed my build a bit. I'd have moved the 3p from Nature's bounty to Blessing of the Groove (4% more heal through Rejuv) and Gift of the Earthmother. I'm not sure what your mana pool is, but I'd rather keep Furor 3/3 and Moonglow 2/3.

If you were going to raid heal, your build was just fine, but for the reason of running heroics only, it can be adjusted in my opinion. The situation with 3 rejuvs active most of the time in HC is pretty unusual and it basically means something's wrong with the pull or the group. At least I couldn't benefit from Nature's bounty when I was at that point.

And I'm not sure what your healing set is, but if you still doesn't feel confident and have mana issues, then probably gemming mainly +40intel could be successful. At least until you have acquired some epics with better stats.


I've got 100k mana self-buffed so it's not really an issue. My build is slightly screwed, though. I was originally planning on doing some 10m raiding, but it sorta never happened. I'm probably going to move one point from Moonglow to Furor for the larger pool and regen through Replenishment.

I'm probably also going to move one point from Nature's Bounty into Gift of the Earthmother, but I'm not going to bother with Blessing of the Grove. 4% to Rejuvenaton sounds good, but compared to 40% crit on a spell I use almost every OOC it feels lackluster. Nature's Bounty also helps Lifegiving Seed which is a nice 30% buff to Regrowth most of the time.

I don't have mana issue as long as I don't have to Healing Touch spam. Like mentioned above, a standard rotation of Lifebloom, Rejuvenation, Wild Growth and Swiftmend on cooldown is less MPS than I get back from regen.
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The issue lies in HT spam now. If the tank begins to drop, I have to cut AOE healing to nuke the tank, which often means the death of one or two DPS, which in turn prolongs the fight, causing me to go OOM or the tank to drop from the lack of HPS, because my HT spam keeps me GCD locked and unable to apply HoTs, which in turn cripples my direct healing.


This, Mazra, is the kicker for me. If I choose to use my "big heals" like HT and Rejuv, my HoTs fall off; if i choose to HoT, my big heals don't come in. Either way it's death. And some of these heroic mobs hit like trucks, regardless of what color circle your tank is or is not standing in. I am just peeved - I know that for me personally a lot of the issue is gear, but still, I watch resto guildies that are rolling all purples face the same issues I do. It's just frustrating, seeing as Resto Druids seem to be consistently overlooked by Blizz.

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It's just frustrating, seeing as Resto Druids seem to be consistently overlooked by Blizz.


I wouldn't go that far, but we're certainly hard to balance. If they want us to keep relying on our HoTs there's going to be a lot of situations we're just plain overpowered in. So it takes extra effort to make sure we can still match the output of the other healing classes but not be too strong in things like aura fights, movement heavy fights, or PvP encounters.

Last expansion, especially in the beginning, we spent a lot of time on the top of the meters. I'd imagine Blizz wouldn't want to be seen as making that same mistake this time around.

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It's just frustrating, seeing as Resto Druids seem to be consistently overlooked by Blizz.


I wouldn't go that far, but we're certainly hard to balance. If they want us to keep relying on our HoTs there's going to be a lot of situations we're just plain overpowered in. So it takes extra effort to make sure we can still match the output of the other healing classes but not be too strong in things like aura fights, movement heavy fights, or PvP encounters.

Last expansion, especially in the beginning, we spent a lot of time on the top of the meters. I'd imagine Blizz wouldn't want to be seen as making that same mistake this time around.


Usually, resto druids are pretty op in the end of every expansion. Was like that in vanilla, bc and kinda in wotlk. Even more if you take arena/overall pvp in account.

So far, we are on par with most healers. It's just that the way to heal in this expansion is not attractive overall.
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Here is my updated armory page: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/gorefiend/kaltheridon/advanced

Any suggestions for gear/enchants? I went ahead and gemmed as much as I could, and went ahead and upgraded my head piece. I am in the process of figuring out which heroics/reputation to focus on for better gear

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In general you'll want to try and stick to orange and purple gems when you deviate from red. They math out better in the end.

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For end-game action your Meta should be the Ember Shadowspirit Diamond. All other sockets should be Brilliant Inferno Ruby unless you can pick up a socket bonus of 20 intellect or more with Purified Demonseye or Artful Ember Topaz. In most cases don’t even consider getting a socket bonus if it isn’t intellect; though for PvP you may want gem for some extra survivability. Use 2 Artful Ember Topaz to meet the Meta requirement where you can get the best socket bonuses.


Also Wowhead gear thingy with Intellect and ilvl 325 as filters, it's a nice place to find upgrades. Feel free to play around with it a little.

For enchants I'd look at the armory links of various posters here. For example, myself, Brisin and Marza all have links; and that should give you some good ideas.

Also here's the EJ thread on resto druids. They can be a bit more high-level raiding focused then is relevant for you at this time. That's said you will never go wrong with what's written there, however from time to time you may not have the gear to pull it off. The treecalcs spreadsheet there is nice for putting things into the perspective of your gear level.

Apologies if you already knew any of that, was just covering all my bases.

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Here is my updated armory page: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/gorefiend/kaltheridon/advanced

Any suggestions for gear/enchants? I went ahead and gemed as much as I could, and went ahead and upgraded my head piece. I am in the process of figuring out which heroics/reputation to focus on for better gear

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Probably you could reforge mastery into spirit for the Blood of Isiset trinket. Its a nice + 101Spirit.
I'd have also put 20 intel + 20 spirit in the blue socket and +40 intel in both the belt;s and relic's socket.

Empowered touch is a really a must talent, since it not only improves the healing with HT and Nourish, but it also refreshes the duration of LB.

I'd also rather drop the Genesis talent, 15% mana is far more vital at this point. Some Mastery->Spirit or Haste->Spirit(if applicable) until reaching 2000 combat regen could also help. My mana pool is about 100k self buffed and I usually don't drop bellow 40-50k mana.

There's somehting which I haven't seen most of the druids doing. Regularly cast Moonfire/IS on the prime target. In most of the cases it is a 15 sec 15% haste buff which improves the Nourish/HT casts.

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I hate healing on my druid now, mainly because like Mazra mentioned if you let lifebloom fall off you're heading down **** creek without a paddle. It just takes too much time to recover from that and it's time you don't have. I have struggled through healing a number of heroics for guildies (which for certain bosses I ended up making the ret paly switch to healing) and I do not have bad gear, 351 iLvl gemmed and enchanted, occasionally the melee get a little overzealous and pull agro but mostly when there are deaths it's my fault and I end up stressed at the end of the run because I know I'm not doing as well as I should be. We failed to down Chimearon last reset because we only had two healers signed so I had to go offspec healing and I sucked at it. My numbers looked fine on the meters but considering the other two healers manage fine when one of our main spec healers is there it was definitely my fault. I tried popping cds for the stack phase (managed to get a whopping 2 clearcasting procs while spamming LB on the raid with ToL up) but we ended up with people dead and me oom every try. Maybe with some more practice we could have got him down, but I don't feel happy making 9 people wipe because I need to L2P.

I also have a shaman (now 347 iLvl) and whilst I haven't done much healing on her the heroics I've done have gone much smoother even with less coordinated groups/lower dps groups. It's still not a cakewalk and I don't feel confident enough to try pug healing yet but I don't feel like I'm dragging the group down by being there and healing on my shaman is only moderately stressful whereas healing on my druid is up to OMFG why on earth did I think this was a good idea.

I also managed to get myself killed on Argaloth on my druid because I was so busy trying to keep people topped up and not lose my LB stack that I forgot to move out of the fire. I'm not saying druid is broken or that it can't be a good healer in the right hands, but for me it just seems to be too unforgiving to be worthwhile.

And there's my QQ done.
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If there's any place I've noticed we're underpowered it's at the mid levels, in the 30's and 40's especially.

Nourish, Rejuvenation, Regrowth and Swiftmend isn't a very big toolbox in the mid 40's, and it's leading to much QQing from the other half. She has a priest at about the same level that she can blow through dungeons with, and her druid is lagging behind because of it.
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#36 Mar 25 2011 at 4:37 PM Rating: Good
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Brisin wrote:

Here, use this:
http://www.askmrrobot.com/wow/gear/usa/gorefiend/kaltheridon#v1-z1-o5033B~230

Check the difference tab. It's freaking HUGE!


Thank you so much for this link, I just came back to the game, and after hitting 80 have no idea where to even begin gearing my druid. Ive read all the mumbo jumbo in regards to stat priority and such but this is awesome, if I could give you a green arrow I would.
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#37 Mar 27 2011 at 1:25 PM Rating: Decent
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I have seen the light! So, heroics are still tough, and I am certainly still learning, but after spending most of my weekend regearing, gemming, reforging, running heroics, getting rep up and re doing talents, I have to say that my heals have really come to a whole new level. I knew it wasn't my abilities...

Here is my armory link: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/gorefiend/kaltheridon/advanced.

With 88k mana self-buffed (as opposed to 74 on Friday) I am able to crush through these heroics. I am actually enjoying it now, because the issue isn't that I am physically unable to keep people alive anymore, its all about smart placement of heals and which variety to use for which situation. A puzzle, and I am loving it. Anyways, I am once again a huge fan of this class. We may still be below other currently on the meters, but I am a drood for life.

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Jemac89 wrote:
I have seen the light! So, heroics are still tough, and I am certainly still learning, but after spending most of my weekend regearing, gemming, reforging, running heroics, getting rep up and re doing talents, I have to say that my heals have really come to a whole new level. I knew it wasn't my abilities...

Here is my armory link: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/gorefiend/kaltheridon/advanced.

With 88k mana self-buffed (as opposed to 74 on Friday) I am able to crush through these heroics. I am actually enjoying it now, because the issue isn't that I am physically unable to keep people alive anymore, its all about smart placement of heals and which variety to use for which situation. A puzzle, and I am loving it. Anyways, I am once again a huge fan of this class. We may still be below other currently on the meters, but I am a drood for life.

J

Since you have your feral gear on, I dont know what to say, other than it need gems and enchants too =p

But I'm glad you are loving druids again.

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Thank you so much for this link, I just came back to the game, and after hitting 80 have no idea where to even begin gearing my druid. Ive read all the mumbo jumbo in regards to stat priority and such but this is awesome, if I could give you a green arrow I would.

You are more than welcome. =]
#39 Mar 28 2011 at 2:25 PM Rating: Good
That link confuses me... it tells me that certain pieces are BiS, where I have another list that tells me that different pieces are BiS. >.< Most of the BiS gear on both lists overlap, but there are a few discrepancies.

Also, that loot link isn't completely fixed. They don't have Incineratus in their database.
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PigtailsOfDoom wrote:
That link confuses me... it tells me that certain pieces are BiS, where I have another list that tells me that different pieces are BiS. >.< Most of the BiS gear on both lists overlap, but there are a few discrepancies.

Also, that loot link isn't completely fixed. They don't have Incineratus in their database.

They do have Incineratus in their database. You have to check and uncheck things below. Pre-raid gear will list different things than Heroic Raid gear.

About the BiS list, you have some itens that are BiS by themselves, but when you take in account others slots and bonuses, they arent bis anymore.

Moonkin have several cases like that.

Edited, Mar 28th 2011 8:27pm by Brisin
#41 Mar 28 2011 at 4:41 PM Rating: Good
Oh whoops, I was getting my threads mixed up. The loot site I was talking about was the one in the purples thread. That's the one that doesn't have Incineratus.
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