HAI HUNTERZ ^_^Follow

Hai.

I'm makin my hunter my main now, cuz rogues get hurt when soloing.

So... HI!

It's the universe balancing itself out.
I had to try and educate a hunter that needed on a tank ring and healer cloth in strat today because we couldn't kick him.
I tried to direct him here but I don't think he spoke English.

You should know better than to roll a tauren hunter Theo. Orc or bust!

Pfft, **** you. Goblin haste increases the rate that you recover focus, they have rocket jump, and look 100,000x better than orcs.

Highly recommended. Goblins have awesome animations, the best racials, and bank access without being engineers.

Not exactly sure how haste ends up being for hunters, but it's on-par with orcs for DPS where rogues are concerned. I'd assume it's pretty close for hunters, too.

Well, going off the basis that haste increases focus regeneration, I'm gonna go with good.

Orcs do have the bonus 5% damage for their pets, though.

No I mean that once you reach a certain point, haste goes from 0.8 or 0.9 dps per point to 0.2.
And for BM, from what I've done with the spreadsheet it gives mastery as 0.3 dps per point where crit is still at 0.8ish and agility at 1.4.

I haven't looked into SV yet, nor much into BM. So far I'm just going by instinct and doing ±9.5-11.5k on heroic bosses (at ilevel 335) so considering my still rusty as **** skills I'm not too unhappy with the results.

And that's no exaggeration.
With a difference of 44 haste, haste went from being worth 1.1dps per point to 0.2 dps per point.

I actually got Haste to go to being worth -0.051 dps per point with some reforging.
And for BM, Crit seems to be just as much of an unreliable funhouse.

Mastery is consistently worth ***.
It varies between 0.3 and 0.5, for both BM and SV for as far as I've seen.

And at what point haste takes a dive... no @#%^ing clue, it seems to change depending on crit, weapon speed and change at a lot of points.
The same happens with crit btw, only to a slightly lesser extend.

The most noticable, and disheartening, thing I've discovered is that a .1 slower attack speed on my weapon can be worth up to 100 dps depending on the haste I have, but rarely goes below 30 dps (which is still about 8x as much as 1 weapon dps.)
a.k.a. we're back to vanilla/BC where weapon speed > all.

Haste underlined, crit bolded. look what happens to them when I change 22 crit into 22 haste.

Ranged Speed + 0.1 - 51.625
Ranged DPS + 1 ----- 3.675
Agility + 1 -------- 1.974
Hit + 1 ------------ 1.497
Haste Rating + 1 -- 0.979
Attack Power + 1 -- 0.761
Mastery Rating + 1 - 0.470
Crit Rating + 1 --- 0.316

Reforging weapon 22 crit into 22 haste
+21.9 dps

Ranged Speed + 0.1 - 25.413
Ranged DPS + 1 ----- 3.626
Agility + 1 -------- 2.279
Hit + 1 ------------ 1.283
Crit Rating + 1 --- 1.254
Attack Power + 1 --- 0.763
Mastery Rating + 1 - 0.472
Haste Rating + 1 -- 0.149



Edit: what I think is the most important thing we can get from this is that gearing your hunter right is now impossible without the spreadsheet.
Edit 2: From reading EJ, as SV you even want WotLK meta and agi enchants because Agi is so much better than other stats.

Edited, Dec 23rd 2010 8:57pm by Aethien

22 agi cloak, 20 agi gloves, 21 agi/3%crit meta, 50 AP bracer enchant depending on your gear unless you have LW (130 agi), the blue tank leg armor is better than the blue dps leg armor, but epic versions the dps is better again.

And see my long post for what stats do after every tiny little change.


Also Female Dwarf is the ONLY way to determine if a piece of gear is an upgrade or not at the moment.
Neither EJ nor the top hunters have any clue as to how to gear yet.

Edit: And I forgot, PvP gloves > any PvE gloves because they reduce the cooldown on black arrow.

Edited, Dec 23rd 2010 9:41pm by Aethien

No.
It's stare at femaledwarf until your eyes bleed trying to find what works best through trial and error.

Yes.




1 hander enchants are so far behind that there's barely a point in looking at one handed weapons