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#1 Jun 21 2010 at 8:01 AM Rating: Decent
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Hi Druids,

Like the title suggests, I need a little help with add ons. I just dinged 80 a couple days ago on my Druid as Resto, and have been getting into heroics and such, and will be raiding in another week or two, and I read mention on these forums about helpful add ons like Grid and HealBot. I guess it's worth noting that I never used any add ons like these before, and this is my first healer, so I apologize if this sounds like a dumb question. Now from what I understand, with Healbot, you can set up ways to bind heals to your left and right click and just click the boxes to heal your targets up. I asked a guild mate of mine if Grid worked the same way as HealBot, and I was told no, but I was wondering: Is there a way to set it up so that Grid works LIKE HealBot? I really like how Grid looks from the screen shots I saw of it, and I think it would be really cool to heal that way. I saw other add ons like Clique, which I read also works like HealBot, but is there any way to make it work inside Grid?

Thanks in advance for any helpful tips.
#2 Jun 21 2010 at 8:13 AM Rating: Good
Clique will cover the mouse binding portion of healbot for use with grid. I'm not too familiar with healbot so I don't know what other bits you might be lacking when using grid, but that's the biggie.
#3 Jun 21 2010 at 4:49 PM Rating: Excellent
I use Clique & Grid. Also grab GridStatusRaidDebuffs which is like DBM for grid and shows fight specific debuffs. GridStatusRaidIcons will show the skull, square etc on the grid frame - good for use with DBM.

These are a couple of fantastic guides I used as a basis for setting up my grid to show all my druid HoTs :-


Setting up Grid to show HoT timers

Setting up a nice clean Grid layout





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#4 Jun 25 2010 at 9:23 AM Rating: Good
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Friar RareBeast wrote:
Also grab GridStatusRaidDebuffs which is like DBM for grid and shows fight specific debuffs.


I've heard that GridStatusRaidDebuffs only shows the debuff as the center icon, which I'd find very inconvenient. I've usually got raid debuffs displayed as a border around the frames. The colours took a bit to get right (like when I couldn't see any debuffs on Sindragosa), but I find reading up on the debuffs is actually better than just downloading a file with all of them in it. Here are lists that I used to get started.
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#5 Jun 25 2010 at 4:54 PM Rating: Good
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I've heard that GridStatusRaidDebuffs only shows the debuff as the center icon, which I'd find very inconvenient.


To tell you the truth, i've never even looked at moving it. I am almost always feral and only heal if we are really struggling for numbers so it hasn't been much of an issue for me so far. I'll try and remember to check the options to see if that is the case when I get home from work. Assuming of course it works.......many of my grid mods are not working since the patch (there is a fix editing the LUA on curse I might try though).

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#6 Jul 29 2010 at 2:23 AM Rating: Good
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I've never healed a 25man raid so I don't know about that but on 10man and heroic I am very happy with Healbot as a healer.

I've been told that Grid&Clique is much more customizable but is not so easy to configure. Healbot is almost ready to use from the box and you have quite some options for customizing it.

I use:
left: rejuv
middle: regrowth
right: nourish
mouse button4: wild growth
mouse button5: lifebloom

ctrl left: swiftmend
ctrl middle: innervate
ctrl right: nature swiftness + healing touch macro

shift left: abolish
shift middle: rebirth
shift right: cure

alt left: target


all things needed with the click of the mouse :)
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#7 Aug 12 2010 at 10:56 AM Rating: Decent
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I use Clique + PitBull unit frames. Way I see it, Pitbull shows me debuffs, and is movable, so I don't really see a need for Healbot or Grid.
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#8 Oct 03 2010 at 4:58 PM Rating: Decent
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Maybe two years ago I installed healbot for the first time on my druid for when I wanted to run as resto (I am feral dps by trade). I was quite impressed with how easily it made healing and just the general utility of having an independent frame on my screen that allowed for not only quickly applied heals but battle rez, innervate and later on regular rez. I liked having it so much that I never ever again took it off even when going as feral.

And then I discovered an addon that absolutely STOMPS all over healbot about a year ago. Called Vuhdo it is the same concept as healbot, an independent frame displaying party/raid member names and allowing for the binding of spells to your mouse buttons as well as alt/shift/ctrl modifiers. I switched to Vuhdo and never looked back.

First of all, it looks nicer IMO. Secondly, it is chock full of options that blow healbot's away. It takes a while to setup and "can" be discouraging to someone without patience but I have walked numerous people through configuring Vuhdo and in the end they are always glad to have made the change. It's a spectacular healing addon, OP, and I recommend it over all others.
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#9 Oct 04 2010 at 6:03 PM Rating: Good
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What's the difference between Vuhdo and just running Grid with Clique?
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#10 Oct 05 2010 at 3:59 AM Rating: Excellent
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Although I'm not a Resto Druid, as a Holy Paladin I can tell you that Grid is an extremely useful addon if configured properly. I haven't actually played in a few months, but I'm pretty sure the situation ramains the same. Personally, I followed this guide (property of Aliena @ Tankspot) - http://www.tankspot.com/showthread.php?58066-Healing-Grid-Tutorial - and tweaked it to my needs. I've never actually used Healbot or Clique, I managed without them fine.
#11 Oct 05 2010 at 5:07 AM Rating: Excellent
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I use Grid even on non-healers just for the raid debuffs and stuff.
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#12 Oct 06 2010 at 3:29 PM Rating: Decent
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In regards to functionality, Mazra, there is no difference between grid/clique, healbot or vuhdo. It mainly boils down to aesthetics, actually. They all offer the same basic function: binding heals to your mouse, then using those bindings to one-click heal.

I just feel vuhdo "looks" the best :)
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#13 Oct 06 2010 at 7:32 PM Rating: Good
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Oh, okay. I don't know what I'm using. I'm fairly certain Tuk made custom raid bars for his UI, but I know the pack features Clique. Not that I use it. I'm of the old school with mouseover bindings and stuff. I know it's not as efficient as binding it all to your mouse clicks, especially when moving around a lot, but clicking to heal just feels like a step back on the evolutionary ladder.

IF I USE MY MOUSE TO HEAL HOW DO I CLICK ON REND?!

Or something like that...
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#14 Oct 09 2010 at 5:43 PM Rating: Decent
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As much as I enjoyed using Vuhdo when I still played I discovered a unique issue. After relentlessly pvping to build up a decent resto pvp set I discovered I couldn't heal in BGs because...I MOUSE MOVE. So imagine the difficulty in having your primary means of locomotion also be your primary means of casting the spells which are your primary function for being in that BG in that spec.
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