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#22452 Jun 28 2013 at 9:55 AM Rating: Excellent
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To be honest, I don't know anyone who cares that much. A lot of people were on his side at first, then he started telling the Chinese stuff and less were. But no one ever career that much, at least not from what I saw.
I mostly just found the Obama quote ironic.

As for the spying on us thing it's creepy and no so much so at the same time.

I think I went into this a bit in one of the previous threads, but my uncle works for military intelligence, so they keep up with the goings on of his family members to some degree. Kind of amusing story, a while back we managed to cause some trouble for him. Apparently they got wind of me getting married to a foreign-looking woman up in Canada. This was right on the heels of my dad getting his dual-citizenship and they suddenly were very concerned about the increasing number of foreign nationals in the family.

Apparently they were convinced after some explanation from us and some "deeper" digging around that no I wasn't living in Canada, and no my wife wasn't from Korea, but they still made my father submit proof of his US citizenship. Which seemed odd, especially given he was in the military himself for several years and you'd think they would have those records of that or something? I dunno, all in all it was a fairly unsettling experience, and leaves you wanting to keep your Smiley: tinfoilhat on as much as possible.

So ya anyway, after that the whole "we haz ur metadata" thing is kinda meh. Smiley: lol


Edited, Jun 28th 2013 9:12am by someproteinguy
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#22453 Jun 28 2013 at 9:55 AM Rating: Good
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We all know how they'll end before they're started though.
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What we really need is a good global warming thread. Smiley: rolleyes
It's kind of hot here in New York today . . .

And my daughter is 3/4 Italian. And 1/4 Sicilian. From the sound of it lolgaxe --
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your daughter has some Sicilian in her too.



(private joke among some Italians about Sicily not really being part of Italy)

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Gender neutral bathrooms and no-homo shorts.

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She'd better have some Sicilian in her, consider my side of the family tree is there. Smiley: motz
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She'd better have some Sicilian in her, consider my side of the family tree is there. Smiley: motz
There's an incest joke in there somewhere.
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It's not every day you give a ride to two people who could kill you easily... Thankfully, Master Seargeants are allegedly fairly ethical overall.

Also, the air force students were by FAR my favorites.
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My little brother said he wants to join the air force when he's done with highschool (he'll be 19 then). I'm not sure it's such a good idea since there are a massive 16 F16 pilots in our entire country and there is very little to our air force. We still have a fairly respectable navy that hunts pirates but I don't think the air force gets to do much beyond guarding a few ancient American nukes.
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Not all Air Force are pilots. If your Air Force is anything like ours, then it's probably the cushiest government job short of being a senator.
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My little brother said he wants to join the air force when he's done with highschool (he'll be 19 then). I'm not sure it's such a good idea since there are a massive 16 F16 pilots in our entire country and there is very little to our air force. We still have a fairly respectable navy that hunts pirates but I don't think the air force gets to do much beyond guarding a few ancient American nukes.
Sounds like easy money to me.

Not so great if you want to change the world for the better or something I suppose.
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I wanted to join the Air Force once, but turns out I'd lose my legs at the knees if I ever had to punch out.

Was fun being in the Army, though. Well, more like horrible sprinkled with fun times. The shooting, the uniform and the camaraderie was fun, but having to sleep on the ground, in pouring rain, in the middle of the winter, for no more than two hours at a time... kinda sucked after a while. And the camo cream coupled with constant close shaving messed up my skin. Oh, and taking crap from teenagers with an IQ level that forced them into the service, and who clearly had very little education in the arts of teaching... not so cool.

"You will put that mask on and stuff baking soda into it, now!"
"Why?"
"DO IT!"
"But I know how to put the mask on - we did it just a minute ago. And baking soda interacts with the acidic sweat on my face, causing it to release carbon dioxide, which in turn reacts with the water in my sweat, turning it into carbonic acid, which, as the name implies, is acidic and stings, especially when our skin is already cracked because of this dehydrating camo cream. I'm pretty sure that if someone dropped a can of mustard gas on us, we'd panic and die within a minute, anyway. It's not like we'd think to put on our mask AND stuff it full of baking soda."

That's what I thought, but I didn't say it out loud, because that's refusing a direct order, which could land me in jail.

So now I give the orders... to their kids. Smiley: sly

Edited, Jun 28th 2013 8:59pm by Mazra
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#22463 Jun 28 2013 at 1:27 PM Rating: Good
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I'm so glad they abolished the mandatory army time years ago here. I would've sucked at it as I can never resist arguing when I'm told to do something I disagree with.
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Not all Air Force are pilots. If your Air Force is anything like ours, then it's probably the cushiest government job short of being a senator.
There was an AMA (Ask Me Anything) on reddit yesterday by a 91 year-old WWII pilot who flew quite a few different planes and was also a bombardier. His comment on U.S. Army vs. Navy vs. Marines vs. Air Force? "The Air Force has the best golf courses." Smiley: laugh

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#22465 Jun 28 2013 at 1:37 PM Rating: Good
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Well since I recently sort of got into watching golf (it's oddly fascinating) I'll sign up for the air force then!
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I don't play golf, but I do hit a little white ball as far as I can with a crooked stick. It's strangely relaxing.
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#22467 Jun 28 2013 at 3:21 PM Rating: Good
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This week has been stressful. At the nine-pounds-lost level of stress.

I'm not going to think about how unhealthy that is. That'll just make it worse...
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That's why busy and stressed out people usually balance that out with lots of 99-cent cheeseburgers and 800-calorie mochas.

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Most of my calories this week probably came from grilled chicken...
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Most of my calories this week has come from roast pork and strawberry pies.
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I hope you have a couple days off soon diglett.
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#22472 Jun 29 2013 at 2:44 AM Rating: Good
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Most of my calories this week has come from roast pork and strawberry pies beer and food with gravy.


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I hope you have a couple days off soon diglett.


Thankfully, I have today and tomorrow off. I'm spending it seeing friends (for the first time in three+ weeks), and sending out job applications.
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#22474 Jun 29 2013 at 5:39 AM Rating: Good
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Trying to get a less stressful job?
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#22475 Jun 29 2013 at 6:17 AM Rating: Good
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Yeah. Fortunately, the intense stress of my current job came with quite a bit of experience, which will help.
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#22476 Jun 29 2013 at 7:36 AM Rating: Good
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Helps a lot when the minimum requirement for any job in any field seems to be that you have at least 2 years of experience.

Also, enjoy your stress-less weekend!
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#22477 Jun 29 2013 at 7:42 AM Rating: Good
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Yeah, that was extremely disheartening with my initial job search. Every entry-level job wanted 1-4 years experience. How I was supposed to get that, I have no clue.
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#22478 Jun 29 2013 at 7:49 AM Rating: Good
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With magic. Or bluffing.


And yeah, my cousin spent 2 years looking for a job after she got her masters because despite having a masters in psychology and great internships nobody even looked at her twice because she didn't have any experience.
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#22479 Jun 29 2013 at 7:52 AM Rating: Good
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My favorite part is that there was little-to-no tangible reason for demanding field experience for most of these entry-level jobs.

The real reason they demand extensive experience is to A) cut down on the applicant pool and B) reduce the amount of training they have to do, since everyone is overworked.

I've literally never been trained in my current position. My first week they pretty much just showed me my desk, and I've been figuring out the way since then. This is obviously an extreme case, but I'm sure some degree of that is fairly common everywhere, now.
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Yeah, there are enough people looking for jobs that they can just take the easy way. And it's also that people just don't give much of a crap about your education.
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#22481 Jun 29 2013 at 7:59 AM Rating: Good
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Yup. You need to have the degree, because it's another easy way to filter down applications, but that's about all.

I'm going to look for positions where they're going to care more about your writing skill than what's on your resume, and focus on sending solid cover letters.
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Yup. You need to have the a degree, because it's another easy way to filter down applications, but that's about all.
FTFY.


Also, I am completely falling in love with Baroness again as well as John Baizley's amazing art.

Edited, Jun 29th 2013 4:41pm by Aethien
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Best Flight of the Conchords fan art I've ever seen.
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It's not fan art.
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#22485 Jun 29 2013 at 9:34 AM Rating: Good
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Now it's less interesting. Smiley: frown
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Most of my calories this week has come from roast pork and strawberry pies beer and food with gravy.


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idiggory, King of Bards wrote:
Now it's less interesting. Smiley: frown
Well what did you expect, he's a professional.



Although I guess if you're not into metal you probably aren't all that likely to have come across more of his work since he mainly works for relatively small metal bands, and he's Baroness' frontman of course.
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I don't follow any visual artists that I can think of. I don't connect well with it.

I can certainly enjoy it, and I have a ton of respect for the artists. I just don't often get much of an emotional response from it.
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This is pretty crazy.

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That's pretty awesome Maz. Makes me want to go watch the Planet Earth series again.

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I don't follow any visual artists that I can think of. I don't connect well with it.

I can certainly enjoy it, and I have a ton of respect for the artists. I just don't often get much of an emotional response from it.
Not even just a "whoah, that's cool!"?
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Time to crack open some beers and play drunken Payday, wooooh!
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Time to crack open some beers and play drunken Payday, wooooh!
My payday was 8 days ago but whatever, WOOH BEER!
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That's pretty awesome Maz. Makes me want to go watch the Planet Earth series again.

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I don't follow any visual artists that I can think of. I don't connect well with it.

I can certainly enjoy it, and I have a ton of respect for the artists. I just don't often get much of an emotional response from it.
Not even just a "whoah, that's cool!"?


Sure, but it's usually in a fairly superficial capacity. I'm not going to connect to it like I would other mediums (e.g., something written).
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Not even if you see work by people like Monet or Van Gogh or Picasso or Dali?
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Because he lies to you?





Also, it's very difficult for me to understand how someone else could not connect with visual art. Especially something more shocking like James Nachtwey photos. Looking at that photo is like being punched in the gut for me and it keeps me busy for hours.
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Not even if you see work by people like Monet or Van Gogh or Picasso or Dali?


Nope. I certainly appreciate their skill, and what their work has meant to the world But I don't really have much of an emotional reaction otherwise.

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It's worth noting I have the same reaction to film - I don't typically notice the art direction unless it's superb and noteworthy for some other reason. And when I do, I appreciate it in the context of the plot, not generally for its own value.

There are exceptions to every rule, of course. I can think of some images that gave me emotional reactions. But most of those that are coming to mind are ones that already had immense emotional context around them. I'm also having trouble coming up with examples that didn't include words or signage, so I feel like that's cheating.

Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind is coming to mind as a film where I definitely appreciated the art direction. Lars and the Real Girl is another. I'm having trouble thinking beyond that, though.

I am generally sensitive to expressions/body language in film, though. I've honestly never thought about whether or not that held true with still art.

Edited, Jun 29th 2013 6:06pm by idiggory
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Have you ever seen one up close? Especially Monet and Van Gogh paintings I could just stare at in wonder for hours.
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Have you ever seen one up close? Especially Monet and Van Gogh paintings I could just stare at in wonder for hours.


Yup. Starry Night, and more, are housed in MOMA in Brooklyn. The Met has a ton of Monets, including quite a few examples of his water lilies.

They're up there in terms of my favorite paintings, but I still have trouble really envisioning them. But I've also found that I generally have trouble thinking with imagery. Even when I'm reading, I don't necessarily see anything in my mind. Actually, in general, I don't at all. If something's getting a lot of description, I might try and stop to envision it, but it's something I have to think to do - not an automatic response.
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Because he lies to you?


It's not a lie if it's true.

Think about it.
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