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#11077 Oct 29 2011 at 10:10 AM Rating: Good
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I found Dexter to be incredibly boring after the first season.
Too much lame *** soaplike drama, too little murdering.
#11078 Oct 29 2011 at 10:16 AM Rating: Good
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First Harry Potter book is my favorite, for the same reason Aeth stated. That introduction into the fantasy world was amazing. All the little details she managed to put in her world.

It's a shame she moved away from that writing style in the later books. It took some of the magic out of the books, so to speak, and replaced it with trivial Dawson's Creek drama.
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#11079 Oct 29 2011 at 11:56 AM Rating: Good
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The fan-fiction style of the 6th book kinda kept it from getting too high on my list. Book 2 was my least favorite though.

I'd say it's... 3, 5, 1, 7, 4, 6, 2.

I loved how the Third book is really the point where you start to feel like you know the secondary characters, and you get to meet Sirius and Lupin (both two of my favorites). Harry's emo outburts in the 5th were annoying, but I can't say they weren't fitting for a teenager going through that crap. I really loved the beginning and ending of it. And I have to say, Umbridge is probably the most hated, infamous villain (next to Voldemort) I have ever found in fiction. Sauron and Sarumon would be up there, if the books were such that you had direct interaction with them. Darth Vader is probably 3rd, as long as I forget the first 3 movies.

Book 1 was great just for the reasons you mentioned. Reading about Harry's first trip to Diagon Alley was wonderful. I just wish you met more secondary characters in it.

Book 7 was really emotional, from the dedication to his walk into the forest. If it wasn't for the fact that a few of the major plot devices were just kinda dropped in, it would probably be my second favorite. But seriously, that walk into the forest had me in tears.

I enjoyed book 4, though I see what you are saying. The problem was that, at some point, she was going to have to transition Harry from caring about what was going on within Hogwarts to what was going on outside of it. And I thought she did that very well--slowly making him panic more and more about the outside world whilst forcing him to face challenges inside the school. And I remember feeling actual panic during the graveyard scene. Seeing Dumbledore kick *** is also awesome.

Book 6 felt odd to me. The whole point of the story was really the ending and Ron/Hermione--Harry didn't grow much at all during it. I did like how they finally brought Ginny more into the story though. Setting the password as abstinence made me groan IRL though.

Book 2 was just odd. It was useful in further introducing characters, and setting a really important plot elements with parseltongue and the journal. I just never really got THAT interested in what was going on. I loved the part with Lucius/Dobby at the end though. And anytime people make fun of/hurt Lockhart.
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#11080 Oct 29 2011 at 12:05 PM Rating: Good
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Umbridge has nothing on Emperor Jagang from The Sword of Truth series. Talk about an overpious son of a *****. But yeah, Umbridge was a well-written character.

I guess I just felt that Rowling took the series down the dark path too fast. Basically, Harry was fleeing the school two books in and people started dying shortly thereafter, and then there were no more details on the daily life in the world of magic. It was all drama and zomg after that.

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I can see why you'd feel that, and I think she'd agree to a certain extent. I imagine that's why she went out of her way to show how Wizarding weddings/funerals were performed, gave us intimate knowledge about how professional get to/from work, talked about the popular radio shows/bands, etc.
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#11082 Oct 29 2011 at 3:20 PM Rating: Good
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Appropriate title as well for the current discussion diglett Smiley: wink

And it's probably 1, 3, 7, 6, 5, 4, 2 for me. 2 is by far the worst book but 4 also just lacks a connection to the main storyline that so clearly started with the whole Sirius Black episode, in 5 I think I'm more bothered by Harry's whining and I didn't mind a little less focus on his whiny *** and more on Ron and Hermione in book 6.


Also, I really don't like Dobby. He's just annoying and while the ending is funny just about every other line that includes him is one too many.
#11083 Oct 29 2011 at 3:26 PM Rating: Good
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This talk of Harry Potter is making me want to read the books again, but their all in Scotland. It's also making me wonder if I should at least try and read twilight, because I know how bad the films are, but anyone I talk to says the books are equal to if not better than Harry Potter. I just can't see that being the case. The last book I tried to read was the Silmarillion, I couldn't finish it. It's a brutal read, much more difficult to get into than LotR and the Hobbit.

In any case, my favourite Harry Potter book is probably the first and third. First, for the same reason Aeth stated, and third, because I liked finding out that Sirius wasn't actually a complete *******
#11084 Oct 29 2011 at 3:49 PM Rating: Good
Yeah I've heard a lot of bad things about Silmarillion. Doesn't help that it was Tolkien's son who wrote most of it, based on Tolkien's notes. And the son definitely did not inherit his father's talents with words from what I've heard.

The first one was definitely enjoyable, but I didn't care for the writing style overall. I know the series is intended for children, but the first book is just very juvenile in style. It's not a criticism, because I expect that that was intended, but it just makes the first book less enjoyable for me. I definitely love the third one, for the reasons you all have already mentioned. I think the 7th is probably my second favorite, although I'll admit I do like the sixth one quite a bit as well. The Half-blood prince thing was really interesting, and the inner school girl in me loved the teenage angst. Teenage angst is just hilarious. When it's done right anyways.

I had an interesting conversation with E a while back about how much he hates the sixth book. He has a good point really. It bugged him how Hermione reacted to the book. She's a freaking nerd after all, not a goody two-shoes. He thinks she would have wanted to read the book for the knowledge gained, just as much as Harry wanted to use it. It really bothered him how pissy she got about it, and he didn't feel like that fit her character at all.
#11085 Oct 29 2011 at 4:04 PM Rating: Good
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The silmarillion is brilliant. It's just not a story and it's a complete and utter pain in the ***.
#11086 Oct 29 2011 at 4:22 PM Rating: Good
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lololol muggle@#%^er--awesome. Smiley: grin

And no, the Twilight books are complete and total crap. The reason that people will tell you they are decent is because they've been assimilated.

I actually tried reading the first one years and years ago, long before I even knew wtf it was. Someone told me to check it out. I think I got 10-15 pages in before I was absolutely disgusted. I actually said outloud "WHAT THE **** IS THIS?" and my mother heard me. They are just absolutely painful. You can often forget the HP books are about school kids, because Hogwarts is so different. And even when you remember, it's rarely painful to do so (outside of the sixth book), because JKR often uses it as a plot device for comedy. But most of the time, you don't even need to think in terms of children, because the situations they are facing are so dark and deep.

With the Twilight series, it's like you took the angst-ridden part of the fifth HP book, took out the justification for Harry to be so angry, stripped him of EVERY interesting characteristic, put him in a normal backwater high school and made him idolize the local popular clique. Make the prose 6 shades worse (and I wouldn't have ever called HP fine writing--but it was always acceptable because of the tone and genre--Twilight is supposed to be a dark, serious novel).

Now remember that it's first person from the perspective of a depressed teenage girl who had to just leave her mother and LA behind to move to the boonies to live with her creepy dad who's the local sheriff and collects guns.
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#11087 Oct 29 2011 at 4:28 PM Rating: Good
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Yeah... Twilight is written for 13 year old girls.



Also, I poked Darq for your title. Twice even. Smiley: tongue
#11088 Oct 29 2011 at 4:30 PM Rating: Good
Seriously, Rio, I enjoyed Twilight more than most other books I've read but at the same time I was constantly cringing inside the whole 30-something house I stayed awake reading them because damn, the writing is bad (albeit so damn captivating it's crazy). It's also totally written for girls.

In other news, I cured myself, and eek happiness on so many levels. We has Nihari cooking for the next couple of days. I've waited so long for this...
#11089 Oct 29 2011 at 4:40 PM Rating: Good
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I think I'll pass on Twilight, then. Speaking of books, what's your guys favourite book of all time? Mine is probably the Hobbit, but I'm not sure if that's because I first read it when I was 6 or 7 years old, or because I genuinely think it's a good book. Although, I remember staying up till 11pm one night to read Riddles In The Dark, my mum came in, shouted at me for being awake so late, and then stopped when she realised I was reading.
#11090 Oct 29 2011 at 4:54 PM Rating: Good
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A toss up between LotR and Musashi, probably Musashi.
#11091 Oct 29 2011 at 4:54 PM Rating: Good
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His Excellency Aethien wrote:
Also, I poked Darq for your title. Twice even. Smiley: tongue


Dude! You're the worst wingman ever!

Grats on the title, Digg!

Also, I accidentally bought Twilight while I was housesitting for my parents. I wanted something to watch and a movie with vampires and werewolves sounded cool. Little did I know that vampires SPARKLE! Smiley: waycool

My sister borrowed the movie after I told her it might up her alley. She's now a Twilight fangirl and proud member of the Team Edward club. Smiley: oyvey

The other movies were a little better, but horribly uncool compared to the Underworld movies.
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#11092 Oct 29 2011 at 5:51 PM Rating: Good
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It's not like idiggory is even interested in poking Darq Smiley: wink
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His Excellency Aethien wrote:
It's not like idiggory is even interested in poking Darq Smiley: wink


Sad, but true. D: I disproved my own theory that no one could resist her. I think once Theo started posting pics of himself, it was all over. And there's that one time Filter posted a pic of himself shirtless...

Smiley: drool

[EDIT] And that's only listing the guys with muscles, lol. I figure it's the best counter to Darq's allure. :P

Edited, Oct 29th 2011 8:15pm by idiggory
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#11094 Oct 29 2011 at 6:33 PM Rating: Good
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Man, when I get old I want to have a voice like Leonard Cohen. That's a seriously manly voice.

Guess I'll have to drink more whiskey and smoke more cigarettes. If I don't get COPD, I'll get awesome.
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#11095 Oct 29 2011 at 9:05 PM Rating: Good
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Also, why is it that so many religious nutcases post on YouTube? I swear, some of those guys have completely abandoned reason in the name of their religion, spouting crazy stuff like:

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99% of the current population fails to understand the rules which guide our existance and live in a purely satanic way. Therefore a form of guidance and spiritual education is highly necessary.


Pride stands before destruction, man. He should have paid more attention in class.

I'm more a LaVey Satanist guy. If I had to pick an organized religion.

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#11096 Oct 29 2011 at 9:28 PM Rating: Good
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T-t-t-triple post, go! It's what the cool kids with green names do, right?



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#11097 Oct 29 2011 at 11:29 PM Rating: Good
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If you want someone to tug you out instead, I'm available.
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#11098 Oct 30 2011 at 1:19 AM Rating: Good
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Tug him out? You should just crawl in bed next to him and put your head on his chest. Then, when he wakes up you pretend that you went to bed together the night before.

Edited, Oct 30th 2011 2:20pm by Aethien
#11099 Oct 30 2011 at 6:41 AM Rating: Good
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I'm more a LaVey Satanist guy. If I had to pick an organized religion.


I know a guy who went straight from that to Islam. I'm not sure...

Also, I wish I had more Americans on Facebook who actually posted stuff to troll. Right now I only have one guy from Tadley who's being a prime knobhead on there, and I get bored with him.
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His Excellency Aethien wrote:
Tug him out? You should just crawl in bed next to him and put your head on his chest. Then, when he wakes up you pretend that you went to bed together the night before.

Edited, Oct 30th 2011 2:20pm by Aethien

Smiley: lol
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#11101 Oct 30 2011 at 9:11 AM Rating: Good
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The chances of that happening are very slim after I gave up mixing beer with hard liquor and soft drinks.

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People seek different things from religion. Some prefer to be guided by it, others prefer to merely use it as a moral compass. My main issue with religion - all religion - is that it's too metaphorical. It's the spawning pool of pious fanatics who aren't able, or don't want to, read between the lines for a more accurate interpretation.

If all religions converted their "Óur god is the true god, you shall have no other" into "Please don't stray from our rules if you want to be one of us," you'd have a lot less retards killing each other over it. Same with the whole heaven and hell thing. If someone, somewhere in the scriptures, had added a little note, saying "By the way, we're referring to your life here on Earth, not a place in the sky, or below the surface of the Earth's crust," we'd probably have more people actually seeking out those things instead of killing each other because they think they'll go to some magic Disneyland where the rivers are made of honey, angels play on harps and sh*t.

That's why I think organized religion is bad: Because a lot of people come to rely on a few others to interpret the ideology of the religion and present it to the rest. If those few others are flaming @#%^wits, which history shows us they are, then a bunch of people are going to be equally flaming @#%^wits, simply because they're unable to form their own opinions on anything.

It pisses me off! Bunch of sheeple ruining the world.

Edited, Oct 30th 2011 6:03pm by Mazra
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