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#10627 Oct 12 2011 at 9:28 AM Rating: Good
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I just spam frostbolt.
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#10628 Oct 12 2011 at 10:23 AM Rating: Good
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It isn't tomorrow soon enough.
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#10629 Oct 12 2011 at 10:46 AM Rating: Good
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What's tomorrow?
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#10630 Oct 12 2011 at 10:46 AM Rating: Good
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Besides Thursday.
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#10631 Oct 12 2011 at 10:47 AM Rating: Good
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NYCC. Smiley: nodSmiley: nodSmiley: nodSmiley: nodSmiley: nodSmiley: nodSmiley: nodSmiley: nod
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#10632 Oct 12 2011 at 11:08 AM Rating: Good
NERD.

I have no room to talk, I go to both PAX shows every year
#10633 Oct 12 2011 at 11:19 AM Rating: Good
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Comic Con starts on a Thursday?
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#10634 Oct 12 2011 at 11:21 AM Rating: Good
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I spent about $100 to buy a copy of Amazing Spider-Man 39 just to get John Romita, Sr. to sign. Smiley: inlove

So yeah, I'll never have a defense against the nerd accusation.
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#10635 Oct 12 2011 at 11:22 AM Rating: Good
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Yeah, Thursday is the first day of the con.
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#10636 Oct 12 2011 at 11:23 AM Rating: Good
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I spent about $100 to buy a copy of Amazing Spider-Man 39 just to get John Romita, Sr. to sign. Smiley: inlove

So yeah, I'll never have a defense against the nerd accusation.


Does your wife know about this?
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#10637 Oct 12 2011 at 11:28 AM Rating: Decent
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She knows I have a copy of ASM 39 ...
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#10638 Oct 12 2011 at 11:32 AM Rating: Good
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She knows I have a copy of ASM 39 ...

Smiley: lol
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#10639 Oct 12 2011 at 11:55 AM Rating: Excellent
lols, lolgaxe you naughty boy. Smiley: wink2

Protein, you should know there's much more to frost than spamming frostbolt. Smiley: tongue I remember sending you a link to a frost pve guide.
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#10640 Oct 12 2011 at 11:58 AM Rating: Excellent
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I know, and I read it; it was pretty decent. Smiley: grin

A bit overkill for questing though. Smiley: wink
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#10641 Oct 12 2011 at 12:17 PM Rating: Good
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Is the damage still Arcane > Fire > Frost?

Doesn't really matter--I loathe the Arcane mastery and lost of Mbarr, I can't stand the RNG-dependency of Fire, and don't like the ghosting requirement of Frost...
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#10642 Oct 12 2011 at 1:08 PM Rating: Good
Actually no. It's a bit more convoluted than that really.

Arcane is definitely the easier spec. By a lot. Once you get the hang of managing your mana, it's pretty easy to do good damage.

Fire is really only good for one boss fight in Firelands, and for that one fight it's ridiculously OP. Like, the logs on it for heroic are in the 150k area. Other than that, it's single target is mediocre. It's AoE is still pretty good, but there aren't that many situations in Firelands that really call for AoE. 3/7 bosses have AoE phases, but those phases are really short and none of those adds have a significant amount of health.

Frost requires A LOT of muscle memory to get the hang of. And it's AoE is very frustrating. I'm not sure how familiar you are with Firelands fights Digg, but there's a spider boss that has some AoE phases, and I can do really good dps on my mage if I can get to those adds before anyone else. Otherwise, my dps on that fight tanks fast. What's particularly frustrating, is that because of the way the Arcane mastery works, Arcane can actually do more damage with Blizzard than a Frost mage can, which is stupid. It really needs a buff in damage, and it'd be nice to have it either cost less mana, or be mobile. There are a decent amount of CD's to keep track of, and two different procs, which is what makes the spec rather difficult to master. That said, once Frost gets their hands on the t12 4 piece and are shatter capped, the rotation supposedly becomes much smoother and we do comparable dps to Arcane, provided the person knows Frost well and isn't ******** up.

TL;DR version: Arcane is greater than or equal to Frost, which is greater than Fire, except for one boss fight in Firelands, when Fire pwns everyone else out of the water. The problem is, Frost has such a bad reputation for PvE that there are significantly more mages that run Fire full time than run Frost.

What do you mean by ghosting though?
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#10643 Oct 12 2011 at 2:38 PM Rating: Good
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I actually don't think ghosting is something that matters on boss fights anymore, since FoF only applies to Ice Lance, but basically it's getting an instant fired immediately after a frost bolt to also take advantage of Shatter. Since FoF only applies to IL now, it's not an issue (on bosses, since they don't freeze).

But that leads me to part 2 of what I hate about the frost changes--the loss of Frostbite. That alone made Frost DRASTICALLY less interesting to me.

Not to mention that Deep Freeze still feels like an absurd gimmick.

Frost is just a horribly designed **** hole that has had makeshift buffs cover all the ridiculous problems it has. Kinda like Arcane. And Fire for that matter...

Which REALLY brings me to the real issue--Mages are stupidly broken because of Cata changes, but Blizz is just pretending they aren't. This isn't unique to Mages, of course, I was just more invested in them than other broken classes. It's kinda telling of the whole reason why I have no desire to play WoW anymore. Those issues are just too apparent for me to ignore, even with the bandaids make them less so in between the massive balance changes that have been happening all the freaking time. Partly because they haven't bothered to make any class scale properly, and partly because they can't because they broke so many classes, so they can only change abilities after people attain higher gear levels (completely ******** over people not in those brackets).
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#10644 Oct 12 2011 at 4:54 PM Rating: Excellent
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Man, I'm trying to farm the T5 set and those fist weapons from CoT: Hyjal, but getting into a raid dungeon without a raid group is kinda hard.

Sure wish I had a guild to do this with...

*wink wink*

*nudge nudge*

Guys?
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#10645 Oct 12 2011 at 4:55 PM Rating: Good
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Man, I'm trying to farm the T5 set and those fist weapons from CoT: Hyjal, but getting into a raid dungeon without a raid group is kinda hard.

Sure wish I had a guild to do this with...

*wink wink*

*nudge nudge*

Guys?


Is exchanging services prostitution?
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#10646 Oct 12 2011 at 5:12 PM Rating: Excellent
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I'm not going there.

No.

No way.

HEEEEEELLLL NO!
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#10647 Oct 12 2011 at 5:14 PM Rating: Excellent
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In other news, I'm going to snap soon. I try to be civilized, patient, turning the other cheek, trying to show my view on things, but people just go "No, you're wrong and... no."

Once I get back home, Friday, I'll open a brew and let the rage consume me. Who needs Sage, anyway, right?
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#10648 Oct 12 2011 at 5:15 PM Rating: Excellent
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Just pimp diglett. Then give him a share of the profits in exchange for running you through stuff. Problem solved. Smiley: smile
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#10649 Oct 12 2011 at 5:16 PM Rating: Excellent
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Mazra wrote:
In other news, I'm going to snap soon. I try to be civilized, patient, turning the other cheek, trying to show my view on things, but people just go "No, you're wrong and... no."

Once I get back home, Friday, I'll open a brew and let the rage consume me. Who needs Sage, anyway, right?


Just ignore other people. They're either going to be agreeing with you or saying something stupid anyway.
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#10650 Oct 12 2011 at 5:27 PM Rating: Excellent
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Where's the fun in ignoring stuff? I was the one bashing on apathy in that other thread.

Seriously, though, I hate anonymous rate-downs. It's a silent "No. Shush, you're wrong." and it ****** me off to no end. Especially when I see only six names on the Recent Visitors list. Smiley: glare

I want a discussion, dammit, not some anonymous display of disagreement! I want people to tell me why they think I'm wrong about something, otherwise I can't ******* change my view on it!

ARGH! Smiley: mad
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#10651 Oct 12 2011 at 5:31 PM Rating: Excellent
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Well it wasn't me... Smiley: grin




Or was it... Smiley: um

Really I rarely find the red arrow...
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