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#17702 Aug 29 2012 at 11:22 AM Rating: Good
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It's more psychology. Red, blue, and yellow (and green, because nature) are considered safe colors to the human mind through eons of pattern recognition. Using different colors might be more exciting, but a business' primary function is to draw positive attention and drum up business and profits. And to do that, appearing to be a "safe choice" is pretty paramount.

Really, when I see a simple sign in a primary (again, or green) of a business, I figure they've done enough market research to realize the meaning behind it. But then, I went to school for business so it's a different view on the subject. If two computer shops set up next to each other, I'm more likely to go into the one whose sign is blue than fuchsia.

I'm also remarkably bored right now.
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#17703 Aug 29 2012 at 11:45 AM Rating: Good
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Oh yeah right, McDonalds, Coca Cola, Pepsi, KFC, Burger King, Lays, you name it, they all have logos with prime or close to prime colours.


Now look at ads for, say, Mercedes, prada, fancy watches, expensive shoes, macbooks/imacs etc. They all use dark and muted colours (browns, greens, reds), if they use colour at all (Macbook ads especially are pretty much black and white). because we associate this with luxury and expensive items.
Car ads are interesting things to do this with, just compare an ad for a very cheap car to a middle class one to a luxury car to a super sports car and you'll notice so many differences that tell us so many things. It holds true in the photography as well, cheap items are usually with frontal flash making them look flat, cheap looking photos for a cheap product. Photography for, say, Mercedes or the Macbook Air is dimly and evenly lit for a moody and more 3d looking image.

The 2012 Olympics logo is interesting to look at in that regard as well, the pure magenta en pure yellow in the logo are bold, in your face and screaming. Combined with the angled shape it's a logo you can't not see. It's not pretty but it's very noticeable and instantly recognizable.
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It's more psychology. Red, blue, and yellow (and green, because nature) are considered safe colors to the human mind through eons of pattern recognition.


Red isn't so much safety as it is "LOOK AT ME! IF YOU DON'T LOOK AT ME, YOU MIGHT GET HURT!" It also triggers a defensive mechanism in us, causing our brains to release adrenaline and various other stimulants into our bloodstreams, preparing our bodies for a potential fast retreat. It's the same effect achieved when exercising, being scared and so on, except it's preemptive and not as strong.

A lot of people find the red color attractive because of this, which is why the classic lipstick is red. Combined with a black or white dress, bright red lipstick is like a neon sign that says "Look at me! I'm here, I'm female and I'm potentially dangerous." It makes us do weird things. It's even better when they have red hair.

And yes, I'm staring into a giant red screen in an attempt to get myself high on natural drugs. Don't judge me, I had to try it.
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they still seem to think that fancy words = good writing and for that matter, they seem to think that more words = better writing as well
They seem to comprehend the internet quite adeptly.

And legal writing.

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#17706 Aug 29 2012 at 10:26 PM Rating: Good
Actually, when it comes to lip color, red is a sign of fertility, not being dangerous. Smiley: tongue
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Time to go shoe shopping then! And my problem with cheap knockoffs isn't just that they're worn down in no time but they pretty much always look like cheap knockoffs too.


I'm too cheap to give a ****. Smiley: lol

The problem is, I can get a lot of cheap shoes for the price of one pair of expensive ones. I'm a bit worried about handing over a lot of money for a pair of shoes that might or might not fall off my feet in a year.

Your cheap shoes won't be nearly as comfortable, stylish, or last nearly as long as my expensive shoes.

It's a trade-off; I just think I come out ahead in this situation.

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I've never really gotten into shoes, I've never thought they have anything significant to do with my look.
Although, I think the ladies like shoes, so maybe I should get into them.

Ladies definitely like shoes (watches, shoes, and fit of clothes are the easiest ways that women can judge men other than physical characteristics).

And shoes are absolutely essential to your look. Casual? Converse. Slightly dressy but still casual? Chukkas. Night out? Loafers or wingtips. Suit? Cap toe or brogue.

All women may not judge guys based on the shoes or clothes he's wearing (I can already sense a heated post coming from Pigtails on the subject), but a lot do. In dating, it's all about doing everything you can to increase your odds with the women you find attractive. I personally have greater success with women when I'm dressed well, rather than when I'm dressed like a slob (cashmere sweater and nice watch vs hoodie and digital watch).

Just my two cents on shoes and clothes in general.
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#17708 Aug 30 2012 at 2:02 AM Rating: Good
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You stand, walk, sit in your shoes all day. A good pair of shoes matters.
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Your cheap shoes won't be nearly as comfortable, stylish, or last nearly as long as my expensive shoes.


Style is a matter of taste. I don't like the pointy-toed hipster shoes and they don't mesh well with the rest of my attire. I'm more of a worn jeans, t-shirt and unbuttoned... shirt (you guys need more names for stuff) on top kind of guy. Need some good sneaks to go with that.

As for durability, I've worn out expensive and cheap shoes almost equally fast. It's not so much a matter of how much money was put into the production of the shoe as it is a matter of how thick the soles are. Because I spend a lot of my day walking to and from places, I wear down the soles really fast. Because I'm flatfoot, I wear down the... sec, translating... insoles(?) really fast as well. Combined, it doesn't take long for the wear on both sides to reach the middle and create a hole. And let's face it, when it comes to sneakers, you're often paying for the brand, not the quality.

And comfort depends on the type of insoles I put in them. Because I'm flatfoot and heavy (due to my height I'm over 200lbs), I wear special insoles that supposedly prevent me from destroying my feet when I walk around. The special insoles are cushioned and stuff, so they're quite comfortable. I've worn some of them fancy shoes on special occasions, like weddings and funerals and such. Very uncomfortable when you're used to cushioned insoles.

Shoes, to me, are just footwear. Stuff you put on your feet to keep them dry, secure and warm. That said, I do ensure that my shoes are comfortable when worn, otherwise I'd be wearing clogs all day. I just don't want to fork over $400 for a pair of shoes when I can get some equally comfortable and purrty for $40, unless the $400 shoes last longer than ten pair(s?) of cheap ones.
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Your cheap shoes won't be nearly as comfortable, stylish, or last nearly as long as my expensive shoes.
I've got combat boots that disagree with this statement.
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#17711 Aug 30 2012 at 7:46 AM Rating: Good
Combat boots are not comfortable. I was in ROTC for a quarter in college, I speak from experience.
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#17712 Aug 30 2012 at 7:47 AM Rating: Good
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I've been wearing them for more than a decade, and I disagree.

Edit: I'm looking, but I can't even find what type of boots ROTC wear to make an accurate comparison. Were they the black leathery ones?

Edited, Aug 30th 2012 10:33am by lolgaxe
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Yeah, love the boots from my military service. They take forever to tie, but are super comfortable and durable.
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I'm gonna take a few moments to imagine Maz in military gear brb
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I'm sure saying something like the following phrase may, or may not, sound kind of weird from me, but I have this urge to play Breath of Fire 3 but I'm not sure if I loaded it onto my PSP and it's aaaaaaaaaaaall the way across the room in my backpack and I don't feel like getting up to check.
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Combat boots are not comfortable. I was in ROTC for a quarter in college, I speak from experience.
You're doin' it rong then. Combat boots are ridiculously comfortable. Not fashionable but they're fairly cheap, comfortable and durable and the army doesn't care about fashion.
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Grats! Time for me to finally get Guru!

No? Okay. Smiley: frown
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Who knows, it may just happen. Sometime, somewhere far far into the future.


Also, Russians are ******* crazy...


It's a ******* land boat...
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In Soviet Russia...

I got nothing.
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#17722 Aug 30 2012 at 2:35 PM Rating: Good
Yeah, I think it was the leather ones. It was about 10 years ago, so my memory is a bit fuzzy. Plus I only had them for three months, and only wore them for a couple hours a week. So maybe I just didn't break them in properly or something.
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Yeah, I think it was the leather ones. It was about 10 years ago, so my memory is a bit fuzzy. Plus I only had them for three months, and only wore them for a couple hours a week. So maybe I just didn't break them in properly or something.

Definitely didn't get them properly broken-in. I loved my boots when I was still in, and I try to get a good pair of civy-equivalent boots to wear.
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I wonder if any of you folks can help me out with something?

My daughter is a dog groom, has been working for a large pet "box store" and learned her skills while giving back her hard work for low pay. Now she's gotten a job as in-house groom for a veterinarian and wants to make a business card. She's looking for a nice photo she can use on the front of the card, at a good price - like free.

She has an adorable tea-cup chihuahua (Pinky!) but since they don't really get groomed I thought she should have a dog with a long coat that was nicely groomed on the front of her card. But then again, creativity is my short suit. I do think the card should have a full face and not a long shot of a dog.

She can take a photo of one of her cuts, but I don't want to get into any issues with an owner and my daughter needing to get a signed agreement.

Any ideas? All suggestions are welcome. Are there places on the web where she can get something for this and not have to pay?

Also, how does she make this happen? Can she do it herself (she's pretty creative)?


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O.K., I apologize for being a dunce. I should know better. I even have a link for it.

But, any additional suggestions for my daughter's business card are appreciated.



Edited, Aug 30th 2012 10:54pm by cynyck
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Don't use a photo on a business card, there are some exceptions but it pretty much always looks cheap and bad. A businesscard needs to have your info and your logo and it's only purpose is to get that info across, preferably in a way that makes a good impression (good enough for people to give her a bunch of money to get their dog groomed).

As for DIYing, depends on budget, whether she has InDesign (and knows how to work with it) and how important a good businesscard is to her.
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Don't use a photo on a business card, there are some exceptions but it pretty much always looks cheap and bad. A businesscard needs to have your info and your logo and it's only purpose is to get that info across, preferably in a way that makes a good impression (good enough for people to give her a bunch of money to get their dog groomed).

As for DIYing, depends on budget, whether she has InDesign (and knows how to work with it) and how important a good businesscard is to her.

Absolutely 100% this.

I don't know how many business cards you guys get in your line of work, but I work with them a lot.

The ones I'm always likely to save and forward to my team that deals with large business customers are generally the really nice ones. Simplicity is key.

Format:

Business name/logo

Name
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Address
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Website url

My own personal ones just have my name and email address embossed on the front-center of the card in black. I don't interact with clients by phone, just email.
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I kinda imagine Theo to be like the guys in the American Psycho business card scene.
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My business card is a black marker I keep in my back pocket at all times. Never know when you need to write down your phone number for on someone. Smiley: sly

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But if you write your number on a girl's boobs, how is she going to read the number and call you?

Edited, Aug 31st 2012 1:53pm by Aethien
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Yeah, there's no good reason for a photo on a business card, even for a dog grooming business. At most, you'd want a small black graphic, and even then it will probably look tacky unless you're dumping a lot of dough into the cards.

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My business card has my rank and name, organization, phone number and email, and the phrase "Potential Free Lunch Winner."
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Thanks for the advice, I'll see if she takes it. She is a bit strong-headed.

I agree with the sentiment about photos on business cards, but I don't know anything about retail businesses and thought maybe it was different in that area. In my business, Theo's description is the max info for a business card. No logos, and any color other than pure white is "gettin' crazy."

I don't know how to advise her on names. I kind of think she should just use her name (Christina) for her business, but again, I'm not too knowledgeable about retail advertising and promotion. I do think that if she uses a made-up name she has to be careful it isn't too cute, nor too obvious a play on words.

I did tell her that I thought she should put a photo of her Chihuahua's face on the front of the card, and a photo of her rear on the back of the card, and "stop staring at my ****!" on the back. That'll give you an idea of the kind of assistance her dad is providing. Much like her mom, she just shook her head and walked away . . .

Here's a cellphone photo of one of her cuts, before and after, and another after-only shot. I mistakenly thought she missed a few hairs around the ears on that second one, and got a bit of a lecture on grooming. She's been grooming for a little over a year now.

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You can add colour to a bussiness card for a dog groomer but I strongly advise her to stick to 1 colour and not a bright one at that. More than one colour quickly looks cheap. Also, if she wants to DIY it, check www.fontsquirrel.com for a good font (stick to the more serious Serif/Sans serif fonts though).
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Business cards are about business, even in retail. At most a corporate logo, but even then it seems a bit much. You want something simple, not something that looks like it belongs at the end of someone's post on a gaming forum.
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#17735 Aug 31 2012 at 11:17 AM Rating: Good
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A logo is good, mandatory even if you ask me. You want to promote your business and a logo makes you more recognizable. I'm also all for some more innovative cards because those will make people remember you in a positive way but it's got to stay practical (no weird sizes and it's got to be affordable).
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Flipping through the couple hundred on my desk atm. The ones that stand out most have the logo and person's name prominently displayed, with contact details, etc. in smaller print. Too much color seems to make them hard to read; they are pretty, and kinda cool, but don't seem to attract my eye as much as a white background, imo.

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But if you write your number on a girl's boobs, how is she going to read the number and call you?

Edited, Aug 31st 2012 1:53pm by Aethien

Mirror, obviously. Smiley: oyvey
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#17738 Aug 31 2012 at 12:28 PM Rating: Good
There's a grooming place near where I used to live in Eugene, called Doggy Styles. That always gave me a giggle. It's not very professional of course, but it's subtle enough that unless someone is a pervert they aren't going to get it, and if it makes someone laugh, they'll be more likely to come in. I know if I had a dog I'd totally take it to get groomed there.
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I don't have business cards, they offered at work but I knew I'd never use them.
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Adopt A Cat! NSFW, really. I'm not kidding.
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I feel so lost right now. It's September. And I'm not going back to school. For the first time in 17 years, September isn't back-to-school season.

I have no clue what I'm supposed to be doing.
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Get a jerb you gorramn lazy commie! Smiley: tongue
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This is the last time I do a travel > party > travel combo. I feel like ****.

But the party was good and I ate a lot of meat at an all-you-can-eat restaurant. Delicious meat of all kinds. Smiley: drool2
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Apparenly Danish people are the happiest people in the world. Netherlands come in 3rd, I approve of that and I do think I'd be happier if I was living in Norway or Denmark.
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Apparenly Danish people are the happiest people in the world. Netherlands come in 3rd, I approve of that and I do think I'd be happier if I was living in Norway or Denmark.

I want to live in Switzerland. Because it's awesome.

Also because watches.
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#17747 Sep 01 2012 at 1:09 PM Rating: Good
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Also H. R. Giger. And Helvetica.
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#17748 Sep 01 2012 at 2:01 PM Rating: Good
****, I'd be happy to live in Canada at this rate. Smiley: lol
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#17749 Sep 01 2012 at 2:42 PM Rating: Good
Whiskey is good.
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#17750 Sep 02 2012 at 12:42 AM Rating: Decent
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His Excellency Aethien wrote:
Also H. R. Giger. And Helvetica.

Yup.

Also, Alps. And that outdoorsy ****.
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#17751 Sep 02 2012 at 3:49 AM Rating: Good
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Hey you, yeah you, stand still laddie!
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YOU'RE AN ELITIST @#%^ AETHIEN, NO WONDER YOU HAVE NO FRIENDS AND PEOPLE HATE YOU.
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Aethien you take more terrible pictures than a Japanese tourist.
Astarin wrote:
One day, Maz, you'll learn not to click on anything Aeth links.
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