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#152 Dec 31 2009 at 5:25 AM Rating: Good
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ICC has a fairly high amount of adds to switch to so SV probably outperforms MM right now.
#153 Jan 01 2010 at 5:57 AM Rating: Decent
I have seen a large number of raids saying " Looking for more ICC 10,must be geared" How do I know whether my current gear is good enough for ICC 10? I've been running my *** off in the new 5-mans trying for upgrades and in every raid I can get into,but my luck is off so far, I keep getting outrolled. I've tried both Femaledwarf and the spreadsheet linked but they don't answer my questions to the extent that I need.

Gear link in the profile at the bottom.
#154 Jan 01 2010 at 9:19 AM Rating: Good
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Can you reliably do 6k+ dps on bosses?
If yes then you're probably good to go.

But with your current gear, I wouldn't take you.
Just keep running random heroics and grab as much T9 as you can (try to get into some ToC25 PuGs for trophies)
#155 Jan 10 2010 at 11:55 PM Rating: Default
Total noob here. I'm having trouble. I just got my first taming quest and I used the rod wrong. Now it says no more charges left. How do I complete the quest? Thanks in advance.
#156 Jan 12 2010 at 5:23 PM Rating: Default
pretty please delete my last message
#157 Jan 17 2010 at 8:35 AM Rating: Decent
Hi, i have afew questions regarding a solo build.

Im currently a lvl 73 SV Hunter with a Boar. Ive finally managed to save enough money to purchase Dual-Spec talents after getting all my Riding training and having enough cash ready for cold weather training.

First question is id like to make a solo build in BM and this is what i came up with, im not all that interested in doing major damage in this build, i just want my pet to hold aggro and survive:
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#cVbh0ggRiuheRt0xVbo:fc0zM0
Is there anything that you think is not needed in there or anything im blindly missing?

Second question is ive read that Devilsaur seems to be the way to go for BM but when i used Ferocity pets on my SV Hunter they couldnt seem to hold aggro of Black Arrow and Auto-shot alone, is this going to be different when i switch to BM? Like the First question is there anything im blindly missing in this talent tree for Devilsaur:
http://www.wowhead.com/?petcalc#cu0cbf00zhoRb

Thanks in advance.
#158 Jan 17 2010 at 10:29 PM Rating: Default
I need help with gems

Dietoliveko

Posted my character a while ago and got flamed about my gems, I've been researching it and I am curious if I am on the right track.

PS: I am not putting epic gems on my helmet because I am going to buy the 245 helmet for 75 emblems
#159 Jan 18 2010 at 10:35 AM Rating: Good
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Aethien wrote:
10 agi/15 stam gem is bad, get a Nightmare Tear a.s.a.p.
20 crit gems are bad, use 10 agi/10 crit for yellow sockets that get you a bonus of 4 agility or better.

If one 10agi/10crit doesn't get you 4 agility or more, the socketbonus isn't worth it (2x 10agi/10crit for 8 agi etc)


I'll add that you're using the wrong meta. Relentless Earthsiege Diamond is the way to go. Your geming wasn't that far off. Without knowing the back story, they may have just been criticizing that you still have blue quality gems.

Edit: In case it needed to be said, 20 Agility in everything else.

Edited, Jan 18th 2010 11:52am by HunterJones
#160 Jan 19 2010 at 1:54 PM Rating: Good
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1 Nightmare tear, 21 agi/3% crit meta, 10 agi/10 crit if it gives 4 agility or better, rest 20 agi.
#161 Jan 20 2010 at 9:13 AM Rating: Default
OHHHH!! I didn't know there was a 21 agil/3% crit gem. I will definitely pick that up today.
#162 Jan 27 2010 at 5:09 PM Rating: Decent
Could anyone please look at this log, I have of my last raid, I am feeling like am failing somewere and my dps could be better in my gear.

My char

thanks for your help also i don't have my t10.5 gloves on for the wipes i had my t8.5 same gems and enchant

#163 Feb 09 2010 at 11:34 PM Rating: Default
Been using female dwarf website, and reading about gemming a hunter. I've taken the knowledge I learned last time I was here.

Dietoliveko
Wow Heroes has a better gem display, I am Dietoliveko on Shu'Halo US servers.

I think right now my gems are great except for the haste and rare quality gems. Someone told me not to use purple agil/stam gems, but the socket bonus is greater than 4 agility, and I didn't really find a better gem to shove into them. Also I am under the 1.5 second steady shot haste soft cap and I lose a little bit of potential dps when my lock and load procs. :(

Other than making everything an epic gem, I think I have this gemming aspect down. Comments?
#164 Feb 13 2010 at 11:04 PM Rating: Decent
I seem to be doing lower damage than usual in our most recent ICC 10 guild runs,and I don't know what I'm doing wrong. Usually I pull around 4k or so,but in our most recent run I was lacking on DPS big-time. Would you be able to take a look at the log for the fight at http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-5oe9rd57cjavxbxc/sum/damageDone/ and explain what I'm doing wrong?



Edited, Feb 14th 2010 5:04am by ozwwjd
#165 Feb 14 2010 at 6:09 AM Rating: Good
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NOTE: Harsh criticism incoming, I'm not going to sugarcoat anything and I'm going to search for any mistakes I can find in your characters and logs.

scottyjames wrote:
Could anyone please look at this log, I have of my last raid, I am feeling like am failing somewere and my dps could be better in my gear
Your entire raid is failing on dps, you need 7.5k average from all dps to kill him.
For your log, the firts thing you want to do is look at things like DoT uptime (Serpent sting 64%, what happened to the other 36%? Black arrow 45.7%, what happened to the other 16.8%?) and add up shotcount/global cooldowns used to see how much time you used in the fight (and how much you wasted)
Look lower in this post to see how I've done that.

For your char, you have 60 hit too much yet you have a hit gem and you got the 264 T10 gloves while those give hit, as well as icewalker on your boots.


potsoriginal wrote:
I think right now my gems are great except for the haste and rare quality gems. Someone told me not to use purple agil/stam gems, but the socket bonus is greater than 4 agility, and I didn't really find a better gem to shove into them. Also I am under the 1.5 second steady shot haste soft cap and I lose a little bit of potential dps when my lock and load procs. :(

Other than making everything an epic gem, I think I have this gemming aspect down. Comments?
1: Why do you have haste and rare quality gems?
2: Never use agi/stam, your argument for it is flawed. If you're gaining 12 attack power by using an agi/stam gem over an agi gem you are also losing 10 agility.
If one 10 agi/10 crit gets you a socketbonus of 4 agility or better, grab it else the socket bonus does not exist.
3: How on earth can you lose dps from LnL proccing?


ozwwjd wrote:
I seem to be doing lower damage than usual in our most recent ICC 10 guild runs,and I don't know what I'm doing wrong. Usually I pull around 4k or so, but in our most recent run I was lacking on DPS big-time.
Looking at your armory, you are 74 hitrating over cap, using weak enchants and gems, you don't have Go for the Throat (which is easily 2-300 dps) and honestly you're just underperforming for ICC at 4k dps.
You're also using awful leather boots that are loaded with hit you don't need, go work on replacing those as soon as possible as well as regemming and enchanting to proper enchants.

Looking at the log, your raid has no place in ICC.
Your dps need to all be doing at least 5-6k dps to get anywhere.
Looking at you specifically on the Marrowgar kill, it takes less than a second to spot some obvious problems.

Shotcount:
41.66 explosive shots (125 ticks)
28 Aimed Shots
25 Steady Shots
14 Black Arrows (70 ticks)
12 Serpent Stings (60 ticks)
9 Kill shots

That makes for 130 Global Cooldowns used.
130 global cooldowns of 1.5 seconds each is 195 seconds or 3:15.
Fight length: 8:47 - 3:15 = 5 minutes and 32 seconds where you were doing nothing.
I know that Lock and Load "wastes" a bit of time, running from bonestorm wastes a few steady shots and such but there's no excuse for this.



Edit: For combatlogs, please look at them yourself first and do these simple things like checking uptime and GCD usage instead of just posting it and doing nothing yourself.

Edited, Feb 14th 2010 1:13pm by Aethien
#166 Feb 16 2010 at 5:15 PM Rating: Default
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1: Why do you have haste and rare quality gems?
2: Never use agi/stam, your argument for it is flawed. If you're gaining 12 attack power by using an agi/stam gem over an agi gem you are also losing 10 agility.
If one 10 agi/10 crit gets you a socketbonus of 4 agility or better, grab it else the socket bonus does not exist.
3: How on earth can you lose dps from LnL proccing?


Before in my old gear I had enough haste to where when lock and load proc'd I could
---> explosive shot- steady shot - explosive shot - steady shot - explosive shot

This would keep my explosive shot up and it would tick its full duration and right as it ended another would hit and start its tick. As it stands right now my steady shot isn't as quick as my explosive shot dot, so the explosive shot dot may dissipate a half second 3/4s of a second before the steady shot is done casting which delays my next explosive shot and delays getting my explosive shot on cooldown. I don't remember who, but I remember someone telling me anytime my explosive shot is not on cooldown is dps lost. I didn't mean actual decrease in dps, I meant that I lost potential dps of what it could be if the steady shot was casting when it should. I apologize, I should have choose my words better.

I thought 1 agil was the equiv of like 1.8 ap or 2 ap itemization wise for us? I was going off of 12ap was equal to 6 agil itemization wise. So I assumed that it meant that if the bonus isn't equal to 4 agil or better put a 20 agil in it. Alright, I think I got it, its not that hard so ONLY if it is exactly 4 agil or better agility get the socket bonus?

I have no clue why I have that yellow gem. It was in my bank, and I had to go help a guildie with less-rabi so I shoved it in and ran off. >.<

EDIT: On a side note, I just read the rest of you post Aeth, HOLY FREAK! Did I ever mention I luf you? Lol!

Edited, Feb 16th 2010 5:18pm by potsoriginal
#167 Feb 17 2010 at 2:37 AM Rating: Good
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potsoriginal wrote:
Before in my old gear I had enough haste to where when lock and load proc'd I could
---> explosive shot- steady shot - explosive shot - steady shot - explosive shot
No you didn't.
Explosive shot DoT: 2 seconds.
Global cooldown from shooting Explosive: 1.5 seconds.
flight time/built in delay to make it look realistic: ~1 second.
Your next ExS is going to have the same flight time, ExS > 0.5 sec > ExS > 0.5 sec > ExS = win.

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I thought 1 agil was the equiv of like 1.8 ap or 2 ap itemization wise for us? I was going off of 12ap was equal to 6 agil itemization wise. So I assumed that it meant that if the bonus isn't equal to 4 agil or better put a 20 agil in it. Alright, I think I got it, its not that hard so ONLY if it is exactly 4 agil or better agility get the socket bonus?
No again, it's about blue gems.
Look at the example I gave you, you used an agility/stam gem to get 12 attack power.
If you had used a 20 agility gem and ignored the socketbonus you would have had 10 agility instead of 12 attack power.
I mean.. seriously.. look at what you're doing and think about what it gives/costs you before actually doing it.
#168 Feb 17 2010 at 5:09 AM Rating: Good
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Smee again, with the engineering question again...

The Saronite Bombs and hunter - I'm trying to squeeze every bit of DPS out of my casualness, and 'da bommz' look like a viable source of that, tho everything I read online is related either to Ensidia ban or to melee DPS in general. Do the bombs have ANY useful application for ranged, or is the throw range/anything else the reason to drop the idea?
Also, if they are useful, should they be macroed (no-GCD) or rather keybound for the usage in the most appropriate moment (running, adds etc.)?
#169 Feb 19 2010 at 2:17 AM Rating: Decent
[quoteregemming and enchanting to proper enchants[/quote]. What do you mean by "regemming" and proper enchants? I've always been told that the +agi gems and enchants are the best ones,for a surv hunter,apart from the +attack enchants on my weapon? I know my boots are crap,working on replacing them..
#170 Feb 19 2010 at 7:56 AM Rating: Good
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ozwwjd wrote:
Aethien wrote:
regemming and enchanting to proper enchants
. What do you mean by "regemming" and proper enchants? I've always been told that the +agi gems and enchants are the best ones,for a surv hunter,apart from the +attack enchants on my weapon? I know my boots are crap,working on replacing them..
6x16 agility gems, +6 stats gem, +8 stats on chest, 85 AP on weapon, +24 AP on boots.
Changing that to the top enchants/gems gives you 46 agility, 6 intellect, 6 stamina and 1 attack power.

But honestly, that's the smallest of your problems.
I'll say it in a very blunt way, but 4k dps is worthless.
2.5k is something you need to get the hell back to heroics with.
It wasn't good back when Naxxramas was progression and it's just horrible now no matter what fight, not to mention one as ridiculously easy as Marrowgar.

One other thing I forgot to mention:
Coldflame
Damage Taken 57830
Uptime ----- 01:08 (12.9 %)

I honestly cannot figure out how you managed to both not do anything for over half the fight and stand in the fire for over 10% of the fight without going AFK.
Or were you alt tabbing out of WoW all the time?
#171 Feb 19 2010 at 10:06 PM Rating: Decent
I was busy switching between bone spikes,dodging walls of coldfire flames,since running into it is generally a bad idea and bonestorms at the time.The entire raid was told to hold off dps during bonestorm mode to avoid him aggroing,which may account for the uptime. Also it's hard to avoid steping in the flames when he managed to fill the entire corner of the room where I was standing with mutiple walls of fire.

Also I am saving the +20 agi gems for frost and ICC stuff since they are expensive as hell,and I don't fancy wasting my money on stuff that I'll be upgrading frequently. Same goes for the best enchants since the mats are also expensive.


Edited, Feb 20th 2010 4:23am by ozwwjd
#172 Feb 20 2010 at 5:20 AM Rating: Good
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Raiding costs craptons of gold, deal with it.
You're going to be using at least some of these 232 and 245 epics for a while and with the daily LFD you're getting a good amount of gold, emblems for gems and enchanting mats for enchants.


Now for Marrowgar:
- Have your entire raid spread around a bit behind Marrowgar so everyone is in range of bone spikes and it's a simple click/tab > shoot a few shots and back to Marrowgar.
- Coldflame is dodged by simply watching the ground a bit and seeing that there's blue flames coming your way, which means you take two steps to the right or left while shooting an instant shot.
- When he Bonestorms, disengage and keep shooting. Deterrence if he's too close and Feign Death when the Bonestorm ends just to be sure.
Also note that he resets aggro when Bonestorm ends so him going after people right after is because they are dumbasses who don't read tactics and/or failed to stop dps when appropriate.


And really, pay attention to your own movement.
Record a few bossfights with fraps if you can, you'll see how much you are moving when you shouldn't be.

Basically, your entire raid needs to look at themselves seriously and ask what the hell they're doing and if you, as a raid, should be in ICC.
#173 Feb 21 2010 at 12:37 AM Rating: Decent
Thanks for yopur input and esp the anaylsis of my DPS info. It's made me realize how unprepared I am for raiding,and as you said,if I wish to raid ICC I shouldn't be trying to cut corners on gems and enchants.
#174 Feb 21 2010 at 6:28 AM Rating: Decent
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and Feign Death when the Bonestorm ends just to be sure.


I find it better to put md on are tank at 2 secs left and fire a few shoots when it ends
#175 Feb 21 2010 at 1:33 PM Rating: Good
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True, that works too if your tanks can use the little extra threat.
#176 Feb 26 2010 at 11:35 AM Rating: Excellent
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Hunter question worthy of a "simple answers" thread:

Do you guys do anything is still considered spell damage, even partially? Or is everything 100% physical DPS these days?

The hunters in our guild weren't certain, and I haven't played mine actively since BC...
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