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i'll end up putting some recommended talent builds in this soon, but a short answer is at 70 i recommend:

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?paladin=052320500033310302135031351000000000000000000000000000050000000000000000000000

this build intentionally has 2 talents missing from what you are allowed at 70. there are 2 things i'd recommend w/ those 2 points. either put on in SoC if you think you'll be using it (i.e. on trash instead of Martyr/Blood) and one in Sanctified Wrath, or put them both in sanctified wrath. Some might recommend getting the 3 min Hand of Protection in prot, but for the most part i don't think that's as useful as either 1 min off your avenging wrath (and the armor penetration especially now that DS is physical too) or 30 seconds off AW and Seal of Command... But that part of the choice i leave to you. otherwise i think this is the best talent build i've seen for a pve Ret pally.

Pro's and cons of DS? um, what in the world would be the cons? extra damage? um, AOE damage? hmm, maybe the healing returned is bad? i can't think of any reason not to take it. You should be careful when using it just like with any aoe ability so as not to break CC, but otherwise it's an awesome ability that will boost your dps quite a bit.

rather than explain ever part of this build i'll hope it's pretty self evident. if not ask about specific talents and i'll try to answer. the reason i take this build is it is every ability that will directly improve your dps except Sanctified Wrath which i recommend at least on point in anyway.

Thanks for the guide, ToolofJesus. Is there any chance you can change the green font to something darker? It doesn't show up well at all against the beige/pink background. Thanks.

You have HC as 9%, EJ are reporting this to be 8%. Who's correct?

Edit: Added in a quote for reference:



Edited, Apr 21st 2009 11:53am by Goggy

Nah, I'm not trying to catch you out. I know we've had our differences in the past patch release is confusing for all, so I was just trying to clarify.

I actually didn't think you were trying to catch me. I just meant good catch as in finding it. I always appreciate any corrections to this. I may be slow to fix them sometimes (mostly I update a lot of it from my cell phone while i'm slow at work...), but without people catching my mistakes and pointing them out i'd be giving wrong info half the time. and yeah, when I had said before that I wanted the differences to be set aside and lets try again, I wasn't lying. Your post here was very helpful and appreciated.

on another note, I fixed some pretty major TOC inconsistecies (the section on spells was missing Avenging Wrath and the talent section was all jacked up - changed the section with the new talent tree setup but still had BoK, Imp BoK, and the old layout of talents in Ret). should be able to find what you're looking for better now based on the ToC.

and to Aurthorius, i'd be willing to change some of the text colors, but would appreciate some advice. do you have an idea of what would contrast better for you?

Updated to 3.2.2 finally. I know it's been a while. Updated gear list w/ new emblem options coming soon...

Great guide, glade you're working to keep this updated for 4.0.1! Still a few sections that need some work though.

Gems needs to be updated. Yellow/orange no longer have hit on them, and has been moved to blue/green. Was looking for a 20 hit gem today and searched in the yellows forever until I saw it was now in blue