What good is this spell for? I don't get it, I know that locks should have alot of stamina, but why cast this when your just going to die, or be close to dying? Is it so you can take people with you? Any of you veteran locks ever use this, and if so, for what?
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OMFG...nether protection will proc with this? OMFG.....I didn't even think of that...if someone can confirm Chuucky's greatness, plz..and thanx so much.
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I Cannot verify that NP will proc, but thats not the point... the thing you need to do is look the spell and it should all become clear
Hellfire (Rank 4)
1665 Mana
Channeled
Ignites the area surrounding the caster, causing 306 Fire damage to himself and 306 Fire damage to all nearby enemies every 1 sec. Lasts 15 sec.
4590 HP for 1665 MP thats 2.75 HP/MP ratio, no other spell in the game has that going on for it(cept Curse of Doom, but it is not AoE) Thas great dammage.
So why? well lets see Potion of fire protecion will soak up the dammage I take..... thats one way, the next is... o yea, a preist with a HoT and bubble, and lastly? sac the VW and let er loose(i use my Nei invurnebility belt to soak up 4k of the damage, but we cannot all be enginers).
If you are crafty(making the mobs run though a RoF before launching HF, you will see a lot of stuff can be offed with this two sided AoE attack.
Hellfire (Rank 4)
1665 Mana
Channeled
Ignites the area surrounding the caster, causing 306 Fire damage to himself and 306 Fire damage to all nearby enemies every 1 sec. Lasts 15 sec.
4590 HP for 1665 MP thats 2.75 HP/MP ratio, no other spell in the game has that going on for it(cept Curse of Doom, but it is not AoE) Thas great dammage.
So why? well lets see Potion of fire protecion will soak up the dammage I take..... thats one way, the next is... o yea, a preist with a HoT and bubble, and lastly? sac the VW and let er loose(i use my Nei invurnebility belt to soak up 4k of the damage, but we cannot all be enginers).
If you are crafty(making the mobs run though a RoF before launching HF, you will see a lot of stuff can be offed with this two sided AoE attack.
I used to use it for farming lower lvl stuff. Used a pal or healer to keep me alive - we'd round em up and roast em. Took longer to loot all the bodies. Hard to say if this or rain of fire is better - but if your partner is good at keeping you alive, hellfire kills faster.
(oh, try Pal w/ that concentration aura - w/ the destr talent I *think* your chance to be non-interrupted is 100% - meaning no interrupts - at least in theory - give it a try!)
(oh, try Pal w/ that concentration aura - w/ the destr talent I *think* your chance to be non-interrupted is 100% - meaning no interrupts - at least in theory - give it a try!)
I dont use this spell to completely kill something, i usualy use it in bursts to finish off multiple mobs. If you use it to do all the dmg on many mobs then it will just end up getting you killed.
Can't say I'd do it without a pally, voidwalker or a priest bubbling me. If I had one, kickass. It's an amazing AoE spell, I have to say.. it has an absolutely abysmal spell damage coefficient (1/3 of your spell damage spread out over all 15 ticks). Base damage is nice though.. I can't think of any better way to dish out 2.1k AoE damage to every target nearby in fifteen seconds, on top of dots you might already have there. Nice.
But does anyone know what "And all nearby enemies" means, as far as yards? If it was melee range I'd be pissed. If it's something like 12 yards or so, I'm much happier with this spell..
But does anyone know what "And all nearby enemies" means, as far as yards? If it was melee range I'd be pissed. If it's something like 12 yards or so, I'm much happier with this spell..
don't feel like doing long boring quests to get keys to open door for instances? hellfire is there for you. hellfire yourself to death, walk back to your body on the other side of the door.
that is about the only use i have had with hellfire.
that is about the only use i have had with hellfire.
lol the hellfire to death past doors is smart, but yeah when i solo any low instance all i do is aggro everything i can then sac my VW and hellfire them, i am destruction spec so i'm certain i do more dmg than normal i have take down around 15-16 mobs in places like BFD, DM, Gnomer, and Ulda (almost died there)
If someone is trying to gank you you can start hellfiring out of fun. I do that anyway.
nether protection can't proc from hellfire, but if you get a NP proc WHILE hellfiring (a mob does fire / shadow damage to you) then yes, you become immune to the damage. the purpose of this ability is that it's a powerful, steady aoe spell
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The big "cop out" deal with hellfire is that it costs no durability to die from it. All the tanks are dead and now the boss is running around rofl-stomping the healers and DPS? Just life tap down and hellfire yourself to avoid the repair bill. Of course, don't do this at the very first sign of dying (hell, you can recover), but when it's obvious that the ***** have collided with the rotary cooling device, it's nice to have a chance to avoid having to spend money on your gear.
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The big "cop out" deal with hellfire is that it costs no durability to die from it. All the tanks are dead and now the boss is running around rofl-stomping the healers and DPS? Just life tap down and hellfire yourself to avoid the repair bill. Of course, don't do this at the very first sign of dying (hell, you can recover), but when it's obvious that the ***** have collided with the rotary cooling device, it's nice to have a chance to avoid having to spend money on your gear.
Damm, now i am realy starting to add up the repair costs for all of MC/BWL/AQ..... wow thats litarly thousands of gold. Wish i would have thought of this.
Speaking as a paladin, let me say that hellfire is great for instance pulls that need lots of AoE! I can easily heal 306 hp/sec without even touching my mana pool, but there's no way in heck I can consistently do that much damage to anything - much less to everything! And it is fire damage - doesn't take a lot of fire resistance to make that pretty negligible. My fire resistance aura alone gives 70 fr to everyone in my party. Come join me and we'll burn the world!
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Speaking as a paladin, let me say that hellfire is great for instance pulls that need lots of AoE! I can easily heal 306 hp/sec without even touching my mana pool, but there's no way in heck I can consistently do that much damage to anything - much less to everything! And it is fire damage - doesn't take a lot of fire resistance to make that pretty negligible. My fire resistance aura alone gives 70 fr to everyone in my party. Come join me and we'll burn the world!
Awesome, this is what hellfire is all about. Teamwork. Try it solo, or with a PUG group of rookies you're gonna die, period. Ideally you're on vent with guildies, or at least healers who really know whats going on....and of course you better explain it to them. This does tremendous DPS, I believe more then double what rain of fire does...but of course it kills you at the same time. If a healer can keep you going, especially if you're bubbled and not ruining the channeled effect, this spell can be amazing.
I tried to sac the VW and then use hellfire..for some reason it didn't work for me..is it confirmed that VW sac will stop that damage?
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ps- just seems to me that this spell is more of a "gimmick" skill than anything else..if I want to AOE then ROF is better IMO, and with 70% chance not to get interupted while casting, it seems to be the more viable way to go. Just IMO.
Edited, Apr 25th 2007 8:17am by MyDarkgift
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ps- just seems to me that this spell is more of a "gimmick" skill than anything else..if I want to AOE then ROF is better IMO, and with 70% chance not to get interupted while casting, it seems to be the more viable way to go. Just IMO.
Edited, Apr 25th 2007 8:17am by MyDarkgift
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ps- just seems to me that this spell is more of a "gimmick" skill than anything else..
Every "gimmick" spell/skill seems that way until someone finds a way to exploit it, then it becomes overpowered.
Mark my words..
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I tried to sac the VW and then use hellfire..for some reason it didn't work for me..is it confirmed that VW sac will stop that damage?
yes, I have been sacing him to soak up hellfire dammage since I first could(a few years ago) a few things to keep in mind when you do this.... Hellfire can do more damage than VW sac can soak up. Secondly, you also have mobs hitting you pretty quickly, you sheild has to hold up though mob dammage too. Thats a lot of dammage to soak up... i am not suppriesd that the sheild did not hold for the whole thing.
Ah, ty, tried it again and it does soak a little, very little lol. Need to get some fire protect pots and try those in combination. I will find a way to exploit this!! Thanx for all the help guys.
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I think I only used Hellfire once in my warlock's life, and it was probably just for kicks.
Anyways, when SoC comes in the scene Hellfire is pretty much knocked out cold, gutted and fed to the dogs I believe. Althought, it could be used to proc several SoC's at once, I already have my Felguard to do that and believe it would only be worth it if you were destruction.
Wouldn't even bother looking at it without Intensity 2/2.
Oh, very nice idea about the Hellfire suicide in raid setting were the tanks get wiped. If that so is true I shall have to make sure to remember it.
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