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#1 Mar 25 2007 at 1:14 PM Rating: Default
Ok I've been slacking off as of late to recreate or update my topic on Twink 19 Rogues

This Topic is purely for people that enjoy it... it's for educational reasons only and not a place to post to flame twinks

Legend:
Red - Best Gear
Green - Good Gear/Easy Gear
White - Ammo/Tabards/Others

Rogue Items,Enchants,Skills,Talents,Consumables

NOTE: THIS IS FOR A DUAL WIELD SWORD SPEC you may have a different setup if you are Dual Wield Daggers,Maces, or Daggers/Sword setup

NOTE: The Character used for this Guide is Alliance and used a Nightelf Male for the CTProfile... Horde has a slightly Different set of gears and racials

Items:
Helm: Green Tinted Goggles http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=4385
Helm: Lucky Fishing Hat http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=19972&locale=enUS;source=live
Necklace: Sentinel's Medallion http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=20444&locale=enUS;source=live
Necklace: Thick Bronze Necklace
http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=21933&locale=enUS;source=live
Shoulder: Feral Shoulder Pads http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=15313&locale=enUS;source=live
Shoulder: Talbar Mantle http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=10657&locale=enUS;source=live
Cloak: Sentry Cloak http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=2059&locale=enUS;source=live
Cloak: Firebane Cloak http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=12979&locale=enUS;source=live
Chest: Blackened Defias Armor http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=10399&locale=enUS;source=live
Chest: Tunic of Westfall http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=2041&locale=enUS;source=live
Bracers: Forest Leather Bracers http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=3202&locale=enUS;source=live
Bracers: Wrangler's Wristbands of Stamina http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=15331&locale=enUS;source=live
Gloves: Red Whelp Gloves http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=7284&locale=enUS;source=live
Gloves: Scouting Gloves of the Monkey http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=6586&locale=enUS;source=live
Belt: Deviate Scale Belt http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=6468&locale=enUS;source=live
Leggings: Leggings of the Fang http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=10410&locale=enUS;source=live
Leggings: Scouting Trousers of the Monkey http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=6587&locale=enUS;source=live
Feet: Feet of the Lynx http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=1121&locale=enUS;source=live
Feet: Bristlebark Boots http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=14568&locale=enUS;source=live
Feet: Nat Pagle's Extreme Anglin' Boots http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=19969&locale=enUS;source=live
Rings: Blood Ring http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=4998&locale=enUS;source=live
Rings: Seal of Wyrnn http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=2933&locale=enUS;source=live
Rings: Protector's Band http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=20439&locale=enUS;source=live
Rings: Meadow Ring of Eluding http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=12006&locale=enUS;source=live
Trinket: Insignia of the Alliance http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=18862&locale=enUS;source=live
Trinket: Minor Recombobulator http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=4381&locale=enUS;source=live
Trinket: Arena Grand Master http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=19024&locale=enUS;source=live
Swords: Shadowfang http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=1482&locale=enUS;source=live
Swords: Cruel Barb http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=5191&locale=enUS;source=live
Swords: Protector's Sword http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=20440&locale=enUS;source=live
Bow: Venomstrike http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=6469&locale=enUS;source=live
Gun: Lil Timmy's Peashooter
http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=13136&locale=enUS;source=live
Bow: Outrunner's Bow http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=20438&locale=enUS;source=live
Range: Thick Bronze Darts
http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=29201&locale=enUS;source=live
Range: Throat Piercers http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=29584&locale=enUS;source=live
Ammo: Sharp Arrow http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=2515&locale=enUS;source=live
Ammo: Crafted Heavy Shot
http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=8068&locale=enUS;source=live
Tabard: Guild Tabard http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=5976&locale=enUS;source=live
Tabard: Silverwing Battle Tabard http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=19506&locale=enUS;source=live

Here is a CTProfile link with the Red Gear

http://ctprofiles.net/5234055

Note the life PRE- Enchants

Edit : Please post helpful suggestions/comments/questions I will respond as best as possible

Enjoy the Guide

Edited, Mar 25th 2007 5:17pm by Trinkt

Edit: Added Meadow Ring of Eluding Credit to Mession for pointing out this ring I missed
Edited, Mar 30th 2007 1:30am by Trinkt

Edited, Mar 30th 2007 1:31am by Trinkt
#2 Mar 25 2007 at 1:15 PM Rating: Default
Ok now to put in an enchants once you get your gear

this is probably where most of your money will go but a good rogue is an enchanted one

Note there are alot of different enchants for many of the slot I'll try and cover the main ones

Legend:
Red - Best Gear
Green - Good Gear/Easy Gear
Springgreen - Text
White - Ammo/Tabards/Others


Items:
Helm: Libram of Constitution http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=11733&locale=enUS;source=live
Libram of Protection http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?wquest=7485
Libram of Voracity http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=11737&locale=enUS;source=live
Necklace: This Cannot be Enchanted
Shoulder: This Cannot be Enchanted
Cloak: Enchant Cloak - Dodge http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=20736&locale=enUS;source=live
Enchant Cloak - Superior Defense http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=16224&locale=enUS;source=live
Chest: Enchant Chest - Major Health http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=16221&locale=enUS;source=live
Enchant Chest - Greater Stats http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=16253&locale=enUS;source=live
Bracers: Enchant Bracer - Superior Stamina http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=16251&locale=enUS;source=live
Gloves: Enchant Gloves - Superior Agility http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=20731&locale=enUS;source=live
Enchant Gloves - Greater Agility http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=16219&locale=enUS;source=live
Belt: This Cannot be Enchanted
Leggings: Libram of Constitution http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=11733&locale=enUS;source=live
Libram of Protection http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?wquest=7485
Libram of Voracity http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=11737&locale=enUS;source=live
Clefthide Leg Armor http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=29534&locale=enUS;source=live
Feet: Enchant Boots - Greater Agility http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=16245&locale=enUS;source=live
Enchant Boots - Greater Stamina http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=16215&locale=enUS;source=live
Enchant Boots - Minor Speed http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/spell.html?wspell=13890&source=live
Note: These Enchants Require Nat Pagle's Extreme Anglin' Boots http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.ht...source=live
Feet: Enchant Boots - Boar's Speed http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=28280&locale=enUS;source=live
Enchant Boots - Cat's Swiftness http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=28279&locale=enUS;source=live
Rings: This Cannot be Enchanted
Trinket: This Cannot be Enchanted
Swords: Enchant Weapon - Crusader http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=16252&locale=enUS;source=live
Enchant Weapon - Lifestealing http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=16254&locale=enUS;source=live
Enchant Weapon - Agility http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=19445&locale=enUS;source=live
Enchant Weapon - Fiery Weapon http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=11207&locale=enUS;source=live
Bow: Accurate Scope http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=13310&locale=enUS;source=live
Gun: Accurate Scope http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=13310&locale=enUS;source=live
Range: This Cannot be Enchanted
Ammo: This Cannot be Enchanted
Tabard: This Cannot be Enchanted

Ok here is a Ctprofile of the Enchants in action.. Note the Change in life and Dodge/Crits that it gives..

http://ctprofiles.net/5242419

this is one build and may not be the enchants you want for your twink

Added: Nethercleft Leg Armor http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=29536&locale=enUS;source=live

Edited, Mar 28th 2007 6:55pm by Trinkt

Edited, Apr 28th 2007 5:17pm by Trinkt

Edited, Apr 28th 2007 5:18pm by Trinkt
#3 Mar 25 2007 at 1:15 PM Rating: Default
Ok here's where your personal play style comes in ...

at level 19 your rogue twink will only recieve 10 points to spend how you see fit in the talent tree so long as you meet the requirements to unlock that talent

Here is a list of very handy or valuable Talents.. you can choose the ones that best suit your style


Combat

Echelon 1

Improved Gouge
Rank 1 Increases the effect duration of your Gouge ability by 0.5 sec.
Rank 2 Increases the effect duration of your Gouge ability by 1 sec.
Rank 3 Increases the effect duration of your Gouge ability by 1.5 sec.

Improved Sinister Strike
Rank 1 Reduces the Energy cost of your Sinister Strike ability by 3.
Rank 2 Reduces the Energy cost of your Sinister Strike ability by 5.

Lightning Reflexes
Rank 1 Increases your Dodge chance by 1%.
Rank 2 Increases your Dodge chance by 2%.
Rank 3 Increases your Dodge chance by 3%.
Rank 4 Increases your Dodge chance by 4%.
Rank 5 Increases your Dodge chance by 5%.

Echelon 2:

Precision
Rank 1 Increases your chance to hit with melee weapons by 1%.
Rank 2 Increases your chance to hit with melee weapons by 2%.
Rank 3 Increases your chance to hit with melee weapons by 3%.
Rank 4 Increases your chance to hit with melee weapons by 4%.
Rank 5 Increases your chance to hit with melee weapons by 5%

Assassination

Echelon 1:

Improved Eviscerate
Rank 1 Increases the damage done by your Eviscerate ability by 5%.
Rank 2 Increases the damage done by your Eviscerate ability by 10%.
Rank 3 Increases the damage done by your Eviscerate ability by 15%.

Remorseless Attacks
Rank 1 After killing an opponent that yields experience or honor, gives you a 20% increased critical strike chance on your next Sinister Strike, Hemorrhage, Backstab, Mutilate, Ambush, or Ghostly Strike. Lasts 20 seconds.
Rank 2 After killing an opponent that yields experience or honor, gives you a 40% increased critical strike chance on your next Sinister Strike, Hemorrhage, Backstab, Mutilate, Ambush, or Ghostly Strike. Lasts 20 seconds.

Malice
Rank 1 Increases your critical strike chance by 1%.
Rank 2 Increases your critical strike chance by 2%.
Rank 3 Increases your critical strike chance by 3%.
Rank 4 Increases your critical strike chance by 4%.
Rank 5 Increases your critical strike chance by 5%.

Echelon 2:

Improved Backstab
Rank 1 Increases the critical strike chance of your Backstab ability by 10%.
Rank 2 Increases the critical strike chance of your Backstab ability by 20%.
Rank 3 Increases the critical strike chance of your Backstab ability by 30%.

Subtlety

Echelon 1:

Opportunity
Rank 1 Increases the damage dealt when striking from behind with your Backstab, Mutilate, Garrote and Ambush abilities by 4%.
Rank 2 Increases the damage dealt when striking from behind with your Backstab, Mutilate, Garrote and Ambush abilities by 8%.
Rank 3 Increases the damage dealt when striking from behind with your Backstab, Mutilate, Garrote and Ambush abilities by 12%.
Rank 4 Increases the damage dealt when striking from behind with your Backstab, Mutilate, Garrote and Ambush abilities by 16%.
Rank 5 Increases the damage dealt when striking from behind with your Backstab, Mutilate, Garrote and Ambush abilities by 20%.

Echelon 2:

Improved Sap
Rank 1 Gives you a 50% chance to return to stealth mode after using your Sap ability.
Rank 2 Gives you a 100% chance to return to stealth mode after using your Sap ability.


Based off the number of Rogue's I've met up with the Strongest on a regular or steady basis for talents had to be a Combat Rogue or a Hybrid Combat/Assassination Rogue ... very few good twink rogues are Subtlety since their aren't too many benefits at this low level

I personally am a Improved Sinister Strike +2/Improved Gouge +3/Malice +5 Rogue

but I've heard great things about an Improved Sinister Strike +2/Lightning Reflexes +3/Precision +5 Rogue

Added: my first build was a pure cookie cutter DPS build it included Improved Sinister Strike +2/Improved Eviscerate +3/Malice +5 .. it was for pure damage in WSG but I found that Imp Evis wasn't so great since I rarely got a full 5 combat points in WSG aside from Duels and 1v1s

clearly in the end it's all based on your play style and nothing more everyone has their opinions and it's a topic most will never agree on 100%


Edited, Mar 30th 2007 6:12pm by Trinkt

Edited, Mar 30th 2007 6:16pm by Trinkt
#4 Mar 25 2007 at 1:16 PM Rating: Default
Reserved for Consumables Guide .. Including Buff Potions
#5 Mar 26 2007 at 12:27 PM Rating: Decent
Shadowfang and cruel barb are better than the WSG reward sword...
#6 Mar 26 2007 at 4:11 PM Rating: Decent
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  • Trailblazer boots are better than feet of the lynx

  • http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=10653&locale=enUS;source=live
    #7 Mar 28 2007 at 2:57 PM Rating: Default
    Ok thank you guys for the Input I'll review the stat differences and if they are good suggestions and corrections

    I'll add a note at the bottom of appropriate section and credit you the find

    also you will recieve a rating boost accordingly
    #8 Mar 28 2007 at 3:04 PM Rating: Default
    Adding a Section for Quotes + answers so it's less messy

    Fromtheshadow: Shadowfang and cruel barb are better than the WSG reward sword...

    Ans: I chose a Protector's Sword for the stats for the guide.. I'm not saying by any means that Cruel barb is anything but a good sword I personally have 2 in my Rogue's Bank as a 2nd set of swords

    bococho: Trailblazer boots are better than feet of the lynx
    http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.ht...source=live

    Ans: Yes Trailblazer Boots are very good boots unfortunately they are a Horde Side only Quest Reward for Horde Presence http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?wquest=3514

    Edit: Spelling errors

    Kellindross What about the Wingblade? For Horde rogues, this weapon would seem ideal.
    15.7 DPS, +5 AGI, and +2 STA look great to me. I was thinking about pairing this with Cruelbarb. Is there something I'm missing?

    Ans: Actually yes you are 100% correct a Wingblade is an easy item to recieve and it takes the place of a Protector's Sword in stats since Protector's is only +4 str +2 stam while the Wingblade is +5 agi +2 stam

    Wingblade http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=6504&locale=enUS;source=live

    sadly though Alliance rogues don't get this quest since it's horde side only shame as it's a great weapon

    Edited, Mar 28th 2007 7:04pm by Trinkt

    Edited, Mar 30th 2007 5:48pm by Trinkt
    #9 Mar 28 2007 at 3:07 PM Rating: Default
    Additional Links : Guides/Info helpful

    http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/class.html?wclass=4;mid=1175083198298068008;num=1;page=1
    Thank you to Scracky for Posting this Website
    #10 Mar 29 2007 at 12:49 PM Rating: Decent
    There is ring called Meadow Ring of Eluding, what gives +5% dodge. So if you wear two of those you will have +10% dodge :) i wear them with my twink rogue, they own :D

    Edited, Mar 29th 2007 10:50pm by Mession
    #11 Mar 29 2007 at 1:13 PM Rating: Decent
    Quote:
    There is ring called Meadow Ring of Eluding, what gives +5% dodge. So if you wear two of those you will have +10% dodge :) i wear them with my twink rogue, they own :D


    Knows his stuff.
    #12 Mar 30 2007 at 11:57 AM Rating: Decent
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    What about the Wingblade? For Horde rogues, this weapon would seem ideal.
    15.7 DPS, +5 AGI, and +2 STA look great to me. I was thinking about pairing this with Cruelbarb. Is there something I'm missing?
    #13 Apr 09 2007 at 6:59 PM Rating: Decent
    Great guide! Really helped me find those few items that I was missing. I'm sure this will help dozens of people posting "Need help with my twink!"

    10/10
    #14 Apr 28 2007 at 1:20 PM Rating: Decent
    TY for the comment and I hope it helps more twink rogues get a better understanding of the builds and gear for rogues in the bracket

    as for rumours quite a few have been surfacing on the PTR about Lucky Fishing Hat, Arena Grand Master, and Nat Pagle's Extreme Anglin Boots

    the possibilty of Level Caps of 30 on the helm and boots, the changes from Dodge Rating on AGM to + stamina

    also rumours of Armor kits requiring level caps are in the works ... we won't know for sure until it's released so I'll try and keep people posted
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