Lv 52 Shaman Helping With Proc Questions.Follow

All Shamans use their wpn procs, here is just a list of reasons why certain one are good.

But first some basics.

Casting a Proc will not over ride a wpn proc that the weapon is enchanted with, they will both have a chance of enacting.

IN the Offical WoW strat Guild is states -
"Spirit - Improves hit point and mana recovery, Raises Chance for Weapon Procs to Enact" But this only means Windfury and Frostbrand Procs, because the other two are always constant.

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As i've gotten to lv 60, the stat i've chosen to max out first with eq is spirit. I have at the moment 311 spirit, which is far more than anyone else i've seen.

I haven't noticed an differece in procs going off. But doens't mean it does not effect em. Just means that it's so small that it's hard to notice the differnce.
But the main reason to get spirit is for the mana regen. My goal is gettin 100mp per tick, right now i'm @ 94 per tick with all my spirit eq and 2 rings and a wpn that give another 14 mana every 5 sec.


The "Best" Proc
Windfury
20% chance 2 extra attacks with bonus to attack power. With a chance to get extra attacks, and also to get a chance to do the weapon's proc is a good combination. It really looks like 4 hits, because by the end of the third swing, the weapon swings again like in normal combat. Every hit gets a chance to crit, and with the right talents and equipment you will often see 1-3 crits for alot of damage. And there's the rare chance that the extra attack will also get this proc.
This Proc is not very good with flurry, because the extra swings this does will count for the swings for flurry.
2 handed means that when this proc goes off you'll do way more damage, but the down side to this is that battles will last longer. But this is good in pvp. Nothing like swing 4 times doing 600 damage to a mage.
1 handed means that you'll do more consistant damage, and have a higher defense. Having a 1 handed weapon with a damage proc and also using windfury is good.

The "Basic" Proc
Rockbiter
Everything should be used in compairson to this proc. 1 or 2 handed this is a good proc for any and every purpose, except against high armored foes. Works very will with flurry, and the crits that you get from this are very nice.

The "Pk" Proc
Frostbrand
Spirit is very important for this proc, and best used with faster 1 handed weapons. The frostbrand is very rare unless u have high spirit. But personal i don't even use this very much in pvp or pve. Using a 2 handed weapon with this is the worse combination of wpn & proc u can do.

The "Consistant" Proc
Flametongue
Best used against warrior types with low fire resistance. This does do nice constant damage to them. The fire attack will sometimes crit.


Comments -
Flametongue vs Rockbiter
Personally if i'm using an two handed weapon i like rockbiter more, the crits that you'll do are very good for any lvl. But when i'm using a 1 handed weapon it is a fun combo with flame shock and searing totem.

Flurry
Good with everything except windfury, and even then it's just average then. Rockriter is probably the best with this.

Talents
I find that the only one that is really worth the talnet is windfury, while everything else is 5/10% windfury is 11/22%. And it also looks like windfury gets the most attack bonus.

Edited, Thu Jan 13 09:51:34 2005 by Samurae

Nope,

Great thread.

but how is rockbiter good on most everything ? I would think that since it does more dmg it would be good against their high armor, or am i missing something, im still new to shaman.

Anothter question; would firebrand weapon be better then rockbiter if the weapon was in the 3+speed range because firebrand should be better with slower weapons?

Rockbiter is worse vs high armor foes because the entire damage is effected by their armor. Flametongue is a damage add and counts as flame damage, so it isn't effected by their armor. Rockbiter is still better than no buff, but flametongue does more damage on them.

Btw I've Reach 60 :)

"Rockbiter is worse vs high armor foes because the entire damage is effected by their armor. Flametongue is a damage add and counts as flame damage, so it isn't effected by their armor. "
Is correct.

"Rockbiter is still better than no buff, but flametongue does more damage on them."

This i disagree on. Both do around the same damage. And as u get into higher lvl if u keep track of damage, crits make a nice (20-30%) portion of it.

A rockbiter Crit is a hugh amount of damage( ( wpn damage+rockbiter)x2 ) , while a flametongue crit is really two parts; The Weapon your attacking with, and the flametongue attack afterwards. Because the flametongue attack is magic, i think (not sure) it's based on INT alone, while attacking is based on agi(including totem bonuses)+talent bonuses+eq bonuses.

Fire is also very resistable by certain mobs.