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#1 Dec 18 2004 at 1:46 PM Rating: Decent
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I am currently using a 2-handed sword with my level 16 Warrior. I have what I consider to be good equipment for my level (check my character profile by clicking my name in my signature). At this point, I'm going with extra damage over the extra armor provided by a shield. At what point should I maybe switch to a one-handed weapon and shield combo? Or would I be okay straight to 60 with 2H sword?
#2 Dec 20 2004 at 4:14 PM Rating: Default
well im a lvl 19 warrior who uses sheild and sword.. ilike it and i think in the later game it will be really helpful in like pvp and what not cause i already block 9% of the attacks and by lvl 60 itl be around like 20 % and that is nice when ur getten show with arrows and what not.
#4 Dec 22 2004 at 8:43 AM Rating: Default
I agree with Nonlinear. It depends what kind of equipment you have. For example, I am a lvl 32 warrior and used to use dual wield with two 18.7dps swords. We beat a boss in gnomeregan and I won the roll on a shield which has 775amour, 18 block, +8stam and a 5% chance to do some nature damage each time I am hit(I am not sure about the exact stats, but they are close enuff to those, I am sure you can find the exact stats if you look for a shield dropped by the main boss in Gnomeregan). So now I use 1 of those swords and my new shield. Before I did dual wield, I used to have a 2handed mace that did 19.4dps.

They all have their advantages and with different weapons and shields etc, one is not really better than the other. When I want to put alot of damage down fast, I will use my dual wield, if I am in an instance and need to take hits, I go in defensive mode and put on my shield. If you have a really badass 2h weapon, use it, if you have a good 1h weapon and a good shield... use it.

It all depends what you can find/buy/trade
#5 Dec 22 2004 at 7:27 PM Rating: Default
I tend to prefer 2H vs anything else unless I'm main tanking a boss or a strong hitting critter, take Verdan the Everliving for example, then I switch to sword and board. The damage output just outweighs the other two options, and for me unless I want some rage really fast, I hardly ever go dual wield.

Just my 2 cents...
#6 Dec 24 2004 at 1:49 AM Rating: Default
If your in a group and tanking, use a sheild. Otherwise jsut use what you want depending on the situation. Just remember warriros hgrouping role is to tank not to deal DPS.
#7 Dec 28 2004 at 11:24 AM Rating: Default
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I'm only lvl 13, I just wanna share what I experienced,

I use a 1hand axe/shield combo because I was tired of geting killed easily when I was crowded by mobs.

(I use axes because I'm an orc)

I experimented that using a 2 handed weapon versus a mob of your level is like gambling: you can win or lose 50/50. And if you get aggroed by another mob, then your dead.
#9 Dec 30 2004 at 10:29 AM Rating: Default
i didn't know about the F key.. nice ot know

i agree that mocking blow is about as useless as it can be... if you need to taunt a monster... go in defensive and taunt him... mocking blow will only make him turn to you for 6 seconds... and he'll go back to decimate your party

as for PvP.. against a 2h warrior.. i go defensive and use shield block ^_^ you can block about half of the hits he does.... so you can EASILY take them out.. usually
it's funny to see them swing their big weapons and almost never hit cuz you're alwasy blocking a blow ^_^
#10 Dec 30 2004 at 10:36 PM Rating: Decent
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Mishotaki wrote:
i agree that mocking blow is about as useless as it can be... if you need to taunt a monster... go in defensive and taunt him... mocking blow will only make him turn to you for 6 seconds... and he'll go back to decimate your party


I'm getting the thread off-topic, but whatever...

I finally found a decent use for Mocking Blow. Even though it is a rare situation, it's a good move to use with a paladin against multiple mobs (ex. the paladin class quest in Westfall vs. waves of Defias). If the paladin gets swarmed, duck in and use Mocking Blow so he can get a good heal off, then go back to being DD or whatever you were doing.

Just a thought.
#11 Dec 30 2004 at 11:29 PM Rating: Default
I find you need a sheild when in a group situation. Its a must. Warriors are not ment to deal DPS in groups but they are ment to take damage. I know its hard to keep aggro when your not dealing high DPS but in the higher instances getting 3-4 mobs per pull is rather normal. So even if you cant keep aggro of the main mob you tank the 2-3 adds while your group kills the rest.

Oh and by the way i have no problem holding aggro in groups my own lvl... Its just that im in guild groups and we seem to have 50+ Rogues and 50+ Shamans tag along to help us most of the time;)
#12 Jan 01 2005 at 6:17 PM Rating: Decent
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Currently, as a lv 34, I have pretty much ditch the 1 handed approach and stuck with 2 handers. Let me explain before I'm called a rogue wannabe.

1) 2 handers generate more rage, bar none. With that rage, I have more freedom to use abilities to hold hate and use abilities to stay alive during PvP.

2) 2 hander + Sunder Armor + a regular old hit = more threat. With my current rank in sunder armor, I can hit for 180 to 200 on a regular basis once I apply my sunders. Sunder is so wonderful for all warriors in all situations and builds on the threat as well.

3) As you get higher, enemies will become harder and harder to even dent. Not only does the 2 hander get through that def but it gives the enemy a good hurting.

4) More uses can be found with a 2 hander then the sword and shield combo. Granted, you can stay alive but you are not doing the required damage to even survive the fight. Plus the only abilities that benefits from the shield are in defensive stance. For that, I normally just carry around a shield, make a macro, wait for the proper use of my shield, use it then switch back to my 2 hander.

Now, I am aware that I lose out on defense which is why you should always patch up all 4 of your pieces of armor and use defense potions whenever you go to an instance. That should give you the needed defense you need for such situations.
#13 Jan 04 2005 at 1:09 AM Rating: Default
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I am level 12 rigghtand what I use is:
Combat Stance: 2H axe
Defensive Stance:Axe/shield
So far it works well for me.
#14 Jan 04 2005 at 11:13 AM Rating: Default
howdy all,

i currently have a 39 orc warrior and i try to keep all of my melee weapon skills up: 1H ax, 2H ax, 1H sword, 2H sword, polearm...

when a nice weapon drops or a blue weapon appears in the auction house, i have way more options.

i keep my STR roughly around 150 - 160 right now, and here are some examples of DPS readings during combat against same-level mobs (using cosmosui)

a 35 dps Polearm averages [60 to 80 live dps]
a 29 dps 1H sword with a shield [40 to 55 live dps]
same 29 dps sword with a 25 dps axe [50 to 65 live dps]

ive been experimenting with dps a looong time now, and it appears to me that LEVEL is much like a damage-absorber

for example, lets say a lvl 39 mob absorbs 20 damage per hit...

with the polearm, if i hit for 180, after absorbtion, the damage would be [160 dmg]

with the mainhand 1H, if i hit for 100, after level absorb, the damage would be [80 dmg], and an offhand hit for 50 would end up as [30 dmg] ... the total dmg from the two weapons would be affected far more by level absorbtion. so not only does a 2H weapon do slightly more dmg from STR bonuses, but also ends up with a sort of "armor-piercing" side effect, albeit slower attack rate.

*ALSO* if you have been training up your CLEAVE ability, it does your weapon damage amount + a bonus, to 2 targets, so with the 2H weapons, you are gonna get more dmg on cleaves for same rage cost.

i also have a 1150ac shield, so when i group in an instance zone and we are fighting Elites that are my level or higher, i use the shield, and i dont worry about being DPS myself - thats what the other classes are for. otherwise i tend to solo with 2H.

Edited, Tue Jan 4 11:21:48 2005 by Lutherman
#15 Jan 04 2005 at 9:08 PM Rating: Default
Hi i'm comng from FF11 since like most imgraded here, but I'll be know as Razgriz if ya see me ,but is it easy to find a 2h sword for a human in the begin or ya suggest a different 2h weapon I was going to go paladin for 2h mace, but i just want to know where i can get a 2h sword in that human terrortory
#16 Jan 05 2005 at 8:53 AM Rating: Default
no idea where to find aliance weapon master for swords sorry

my 2 cents for this topic is pretty much the same. when I am solo the 2 hander does more damage and generates more rage. best offence is a good defence. I always keep my weapon skills up as well and find I am more effective with 2h. I've experimented in groups with defensive stance and a shield and i've found that the sooner you kill whatever attacks you the better

However, Im sure at later levels an additional 1000 to my AC will come in handy and some of the shield skills are very handy depending on monst/situation

Don't be a one trick pony

Edited, Wed Jan 5 08:53:18 2005 by Kazumodan
#17 Jan 07 2005 at 9:49 AM Rating: Default
my personal opinion:

use them both, keep them both capped. Things change very often in party situations, and if they needa tank, then pull out your sword, and go defencive stance, if tehy needa DD go 2h sword, go berserk/battle stance and rage away at the enemy to your hearrts content. I use 2h mace and 1h axe/shld and it works great , but the /shld combo DOES help

0-2 lv dif with shld: dmg taken is about 6 points less at around lvl 15

0-2 lvl dif w/o shld: dmg taken is about 6 points more, but dmg is ALOT more, while speed is lower, o well... you will be doing more dmg in the long run,

thats just my opinion, but just get both, warrior is a job with many faces. you never know what you will need to do. ;)

Tauren-Warrior-Server:doomhammer
#18 Jan 10 2005 at 5:48 AM Rating: Default
Gannon here from Eonar. I would suggest that you, being on the side of alliance and around paladins that are designed for defense and tanking, should keep with whatever High damage DPS. 2 hander you can. If your not going to be tanking, help your paladin friend out by killing that mob quicker. Criticaling with a good 2hander draws very high aggro, along with a much higher increase in damage between the regular swing to critical swing. As a warrior you face that duality of defense and offense, eploit the offensive side, with the right talents your dps. and critial's can go up.

Suggestion from a 35 tauren warrior that around your level tried out defensive stance with sword and shield and changed. Though i survived battles with "slightly" less damage at times, killing a mob off faster in a group situation proved more valuable to me. As well as for farming, I would rather let my life regen walking to the next mob, having killed my prior opponent off faster.
#19 Jan 11 2005 at 4:56 PM Rating: Decent
Drahan wrote:
I'm only lvl 13, I just wanna share what I experienced,

I use a 1hand axe/shield combo because I was tired of geting killed easily when I was crowded by mobs.

(I use axes because I'm an orc)

I experimented that using a 2 handed weapon versus a mob of your level is like gambling: you can win or lose 50/50. And if you get aggroed by another mob, then your dead.


My Night Elf Warrior is 2 levels higher and I've had the exact opposite experiences. At 15, I can and have taken on multiples of mobs my level and up to 3 levels higher (Defias Highwaymen and Riverpaw Taskmasters being the 18s) with her 2h Prospector's Axe. The main reason I use 2h right now is because the quality of her other weapons (1h sword, 2h sword, 1h Axe, Dagger) is far lower than her 2h Axe (which is blue) and I can't find a decent shield for her at this point.

All of my characters are built solely for PvE (since I don't PvP at all and don't plan to) so that's been my only real concern. In groups at this level, I can generally hold aggro fine since I generate rage a lot more consistently with a 2hander as opposed to a 1h/shield combo. Just my experiences though, which I fully understand may change in the future.
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