EdyNOTB, pet mage of Jabober wrote:
you will notice how easely dart spamming breaks your weapon, then when you have enough MND you will notice how dam strong Scourge/Banish are, and spam them instead lol.
so yah spam spam, personally am 25thm and what i do is.
Protect-Shell(if the mob requires it)-Stygian Shield
Profundity+Blood Rite->Banish or Scourge, if it lands it probably either kills your mob or takes its hp to half, my hit is around 480-555(on green yellow mobs) (1337 on a star marmot XD)
then keep spaming Scourge/Banish 2-3 more times and mob dies, if it forced me to heal then just heal and more Scourge/Banish when mob dies Siphon MP. if mob too strong just Punishing Barbs and spam heals then make sure to fight something else lol.
my weapon is lvl 25 fianlly! so dart still does about 100-150 per dart, but i like to extend the life of my weapon as much as i can, and for some reason my dart miss more than my spells, i dont use the dart anymore, only to auto-lock at start of fight or to end the last 15-20% hp of the mob.
Edited, Oct 20th 2010 7:34pm by AggroDoctor
Just need to understand this for clarity purposes. You are saying killing a mob by using scourge and banish nets you the most sp? Or just that it is a way not to use Phantom Dart? What I don't quite get is that when I use Scourge/Banish I don't get anywhere the amount of numbers you are getting but then again I am not fighting solo...is this what you are doing? If this is the case then I'm not surprised your banish and Scourge damage is so high because if you are a 25 THM and fighting Star marmots....well whats the point of getting seriously high numbers when fighting a mob that will net you 0 sp or very very low sp at best? Try it on crabs that con green or orange to a party of 5 and see if you get the same numbers. I have been in quite a few parties and I find that even though I have been testing your 'MND only' method my numbers are more like 30-80 damage, and I certainly wouldnt recommend spamming it over phantom dart. Weapons are fairly easy to get repaired but I totally agree that just using Phantom Dart will wear your weapon very quickly on tough mobs. The best method I find is to do combinations of all three things that net THM's sp. These are, healing, Physical attack (Phantom Dart/Damnation) and DOT/Debuffs. If you do this method when fighting in a small party (3-5 players) you will be netting around 50-500 sp per kill - this is very quick sp as the kill speed is fast. I was managing around 6k per hour and that was including downtime for party rests etc. I wouldn't even say this was particularly quick either.
To the OP, well after a while the THM role does get a lot more interesting and as soon as you get ABSORB spells, siphon MP, Sacrifice II and can start cycling your debuff + Heal + hitting the mob with Phantom Dart + managing AOE properly you will not be bored trust me. Parties are starting to 'need' THM's now because of our damage and healing abilities. I parties yesterday on Island Crabs near Bald Knoll and after 1.5 hours of play I finally managed to get three debuffs on one of those crabs! lol I think this is because I had reasigned many of my points into MND though and that I should put some more back into PIE - I will see.
lol the star marmot example was just a fun kill they give 0 exp/sp and thats a Prof/BR hit for it to be that high.
i mean its a marmot, even my staff does like 550 to a marmot lol.
now about the damage numbers, those are examples with Prof and BR active and in a crab which has high defense id do about 330 Prof/BR about 220 BR and 160 or so normal damage(these are all Scourge/Banish).
and personally i find that where id get 13-55 points doing a dart now at my Rank , i can get 75-150 sp off Scourge/Banish, but my biggest problem is that since my damage its so high i keep my weapon broken while in a party because otherwise i kill too fast and my party members dont get good SP.
and by having my weapon broken i do about half damage and the only way to get good SP its with Scourge/Banish hits that be giving me 30-80 sometimes more when it does actually give me any, and avarage of 13-30 points with broken weapon from a Dart.
so instead of me throwing several darts of 13-30 SP i throw Scourge/Banish and 1 or 2 that give me SP covers a spamming of Darts.
but one other reason for me to do things this way, its that if you spam Dart, your always going to be runing low on Stamina and i dont like to be in that position, by Spamming Scourge/Banish your stamina Stays pretty high, leaving your options open for anything that you might need like for example a quick Second Wind , if your spamming darts, you have to wait on stamina to recharge for something like that which might mean your death.
if your still having issues with the damage let me know and ill give a better explenation of how to get it up there, also give me your lvls and ill try to give you a stat points setup that suits you.