Whats the point in doing them if you cannot win???? I personally grind with this setup casting spirit darts when I can and skill up just fine actually quite fast works for me.
I will add one guy stated he used lower gear for faster skill ups I live in the other camp kill a ton as fast as possible aoe grind for shards crystal and mats = profit the skills come pretty quickly seems the tougher mobs I fight the better skill ups i see and xp so for me its win win.
Heck I am thinking of getting Gladiator to 10 just for Aegis Boon to add to the mix the mobs damage heals me while punishing barbs takes em out used on mobs that otherwise would have just killed me outright so I maybe able to get away or better yet let the sucker kill it self. Me being dead or failing isn't the best option in my book.
Edited, Oct 8th 2010 1:13pm by kenshynOnShiva
You don't get SP though do you? I've never once gotten skillups healing myself when solo, or buffing myself. And I've heard punishing bards does not give any SP. Shock Spikes certainly give no SP. If you don't have time to do attacks, you don't get any SP which means it is almost pointless.
Sure, you get shards/crystals and drops ... but you'd get that from killing regular mobs too, mobs that you can actually kill normaly and get SP on at the same time.
Gil awards alone are not enough for me to do a leve, I'd rather spend that time gaining SP.