I don't think you were merely trying to be a douchebag, you were really quite successful at it.
I'm sorry. I'll make sure to remember from now on: giving valid advice without even being insulting in a topic that specifically asks for feedback on an issue is still being a douchebag in Pangy's world.
That is where you are wrong. Fishing skill is important for the reason I stated above.
Yeah, unfortunately, the Ebisu doesn't make it important, for the reason I stated above.
lolitsreallyquiteaccurate. I think what you meant to say was that you just have no retort, which is understandable, because I'm right.
lol! You are so pathetically weak. I say offend away, you haven't been very successful so far. It's actually more humorous than anything, especially when it involves someone's convoluted sense of logic being called out. Fool.
It must be a great life that you have, deluding yourself into believing your "logic" is always right, when anyone who actually has an Ebisu (a group which I highly doubt you're even a member of) knows better.
I think the key phrase in your comment is "I don't know." That's the most sense you've made since responding to this thread, at least as far as it comes to explaining your worthlessness.
O snap, I think Imma cry D:
No, actually, I meant "I don't know" as in "You'd have to be really
special to want to expend effort to lose time/money", but hey, there's probably people out there who get off to **** robot porn, so who am I to judge?
If you can't understand why someone would want to procure an item just for the sake of the challenge, then I don't know what to say to you that would help your comprehension issues.
WHY you want to do it isn't any of my **** business, nor do I care. It still doesn't mean that I'm going to advise people to do it when the numbers and averages support the fact that it's not a worthwhile time/monetary investment.
You are retarded. Either that or you really do have reading comprehension issues. I hate having to be redundant here, but does the Ebisu break occasionally when catching fish? That seems to be what you are saying in your comment about it only being an upgrade to Lu Shang for not having to carry around crystals (and lumber!).
Hoo boy, you are thick.
Let's try this again. If you have an Ebisu, breaks are meaningless, because having one likely means that you already have the ability to fix a Lu.
Was that clear enough for you, or do I have to step down to toddler speak?
And if you're actually fixing your Lu with lumber, well... it's not really my problem that people like to **** away even more of their money for even more inconvenience.
Oh wait, a couple comments above you inferred it was an actual downgrade to get the Ebisu. Now it's an upgrade again? You're contradicting yourself! lol
The Ebisu doesn't let you fish anything you can't with a Lu, therefore I don't consider it an upgrade. I'll say this as many times as it takes to sink in.
I don't consider not needing to carry light crystals to be an advantage worth noting. The fish that are even capable of breaking Lu are few and far between, and for most people will only be fish encountered in the Ebisu quest itself.
The Ebisu allows slightly less time to catch a fish than Lu does. This is a disadvantage that, again, isn't worth noting.
All this is why the Ebisu is meh. It simply does not stand out from a Lu. The Lu drastically changes the scope of what you are able to fish and how much net worth you are able to reel in from numerous locations around the world, primarily by enabling you to target both small fish and big fish at the same time.
The Ebisu does absolutely nothing to change any of that.
mmmk, so I shouldn't attempt to obtain an non-breaking Ebisu because of the breaks I will encounter along the way?
You do see how stupid that sounds don't you?
Yeah, maybe it would sound stupid to you. You haven't exactly convinced me of your shining intelligence yet. Let me lay it out again just for you:
If you don't go for an Ebisu, you have very little reason to frequently go after the small handful of fish that can actually break a Lu. I personally never did.
Still too complicated for you? Probably. Here it is in another form:
You want an Ebisu so that you aren't screwed when you break your Lu.
In order to get the Ebisu, you must deal with Lu breaks.
By the time you level your WW to get around the Lu breaks, guess what? You don't need the Ebisu anymore! You have a Lu you can fix! You've just invalidated your entire reason for getting an Ebisu!
If I had only the Lu today I'd still be just as successful with fishing as I am now
and I'd also be about 4 million gil richer from having sold all those fish. I doubt I'd have leveled my woodworking to 80, but there's nothing saying I couldn't have done that anyway without going for Ebisu.
That's quitters talk. If I decide to embark on a quest, I see it through, regardless of the challenge.
Good for you? It's still impractical from a time/money standpoint (numbers don't lie and aren't swayed by personal "feelings" about a given item) and therefore something I can't recommend. Because believe it or not, most people fish to make money, not lose it.
You need to have fishing at 78+ to be able to start the quest that leads to obtaining the Ebisu rod. That alone negates your initial comment in this thread: "Fishing skill doesn't mean sh*t, fish for money not skill, etc etc etc"
No it doesn't, because the Ebisu rod itself doesn't mean sh*t.
I'm sorry that you seem convinced that the rod is doing more for you than it really is (assuming you even have it, because if you don't, it just makes your stance even more groundless). If this game has taught me anything, it's that people love their placebos. Let me guess, do you still run toward goblins to make them drop their bombs, too?
That depends entirely on the fish. Not necessarily whether they are big or small, but on the way its difficulty level was programmed in by SE.
No kidding. If anything, this should have been giving you an idea of just how much fishing skill DOESN'T matter.
I was catching Black Sole easily 100% of the time when I got my Lu in the 50s (I made loads of money off these back when sole sushi was a hot commodity and before RMT moved in on it), so any inability to do the same on your part is your fault and your problem.
Now for the interesting part -- since reaching 100, the rod shifted on Black Sole just as much as it did before (and still does with Ebisu, as a matter of fact). The game hasn't made them any easier to reflect my higher skill, nor will this be the case with any
other fish in the game because that's not something that fishing skill does (can you see why I'm saying fishing skill doesn't mean sh*t, yet?). They are only easier to me now because I am very well experienced with how those fish behave. Based on the fact they haven't changed at all since outleveling them, I'm certain I could catch Black Sole just fine at an even lower level.
Now for some edumacation, because I'm really very generous and not a douchebag like you're somehow convinced I am. There are two things that affect rate of rod shifting on a particular species of fish:
1) Whether or not you're using the right kind of rod (big fish will shake the rod more with a "small fish" rod, and it will also give you significantly less time to try to land the catch, not to mention higher rate of lost catches and/or breaks)
2) Whether or not you're using a Penguin Ring
Anything else you think is contributing to it can really just be attributed to one thing -- sheer dumb luck. It sure as **** isn't fishing skill.
Not only did you not provide any amount of positive contribution, but I have shown quite clearly in this very post that you are wrong, period.
Everything I said in my first post was good, accurate, relevant advice, and you haven't disproven any of it.
Again, I'm sorry you've been misled to think the Ebisu does more than it really does, but I'm not going to stand by and let you try to convince anyone else as such without an argument. I busted my **** for this rod but it doesn't mean I'm going to lie and pimp it out as more awesome than it really is. And irony? Do you even know what the word means?
Considering I just used it (correctly), I would say so. Even if one person provided a greater positive contribution in two lines than another did in two posts, where is the irony in that?
It's ironic because you're so convinced you're right and I'm wrong when it's the total opposite.
It's ironic because you're so convinced that you're the great savior of this thread when in reality you've dragged it into a sh*thole that it didn't need to be in, while simultaneously providing absolutely nothing relevant (or correct, for that matter) to the thread.
Need I go on? That makes no sense.
FFXI is a MMORPG, breaking the acronym into two separate parts doesn't create the contradiction that you are implying. There is no secret here, "massively multiplayer online" means a sh*t load of people are playing via the internet; and "role-playing game" just describes the type of game it is.
So what's your point?
You really aren't the sharpest tool in the shed, are you?
His point is that you suck at determining the actual practicality and value of an item because you are too blinded by personal feelings about said item, and possess (or are ignoring) the ability to understand the greater picture. Thus, you ought not to be talking about it in public, where people care about how useful something actually is, not whatever other sort of basis you are stacking it up against. Edited, Nov 24th 2009 12:56am by Fynlar